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Posted by zugmann on Wednesday, May 13, 2020 10:05 AM

BaltACD
Class 1's don't have any cabooses!  Nothing to disenfect.

So why do we have cabooses in my yard?

We have more restrictive rules for buffers for unit trains.  In addition to the FRA requirements, buffer cars must weigh more than 45 tons, be over 41 feet long, but not longer than 70. 

It's been fun.  But it isn't much fun anymore.   Signing off for now. 


  

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Posted by BaltACD on Wednesday, May 13, 2020 7:26 AM

samfp1943
 
BaltACD
Gramp
The caboose would have to be disinfected first. 

(Sorry, just couldn't brake early enough to not pass the signal). 

To my knowledge there is no specific requirement for the buffer car(s).  From a train handling view point the car(s) should be loaded.  From a revenue view point, the carrier 'creating' the buffer car(s) will use cars that are young enough to be used in Interchange Service, but of such a nature that the owner is not using them in revenue service.

Flatland operators with only head end power can get away with only using a buffer next to the head end power.  If DPU or manned helpers are used the must be separated from the HAZMAT by a buffer.

From my experience the buffer car(s) used for both ethanol and oil trains are covered hoppers that have been loaded with sand. 

Does not a locomotive being moved 'Dead in Tow' also class as a buffer?  I've noticed that on occasion there have been tank cars moving in the 1st car position behind the head end power.. no way to determine if the power is dead or active...Sometimes with 2 units on the head you make the guess that the power is 'on' 'unoccupied'; no way to tell? 

Locomotives in the engine consist do not constitute a buffer car.  Not all commodities carried in tank cars are HAZMAT.  You have to look for the Placard.  No placard in the placard holder - the car does not contain HAZMAT.  Tank cars that haul HAZMAT are required to have placards - both loaded and empty.

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Posted by samfp1943 on Tuesday, May 12, 2020 10:55 PM

BaltACD
Gramp
The caboose would have to be disinfected first. 

(Sorry, just couldn't brake early enough to not pass the signal). 

To my knowledge there is no specific requirement for the buffer car(s).  From a train handling view point the car(s) should be loaded.  From a revenue view point, the carrier 'creating' the buffer car(s) will use cars that are young enough to be used in Interchange Service, but of such a nature that the owner is not using them in revenue service.

Flatland operators with only head end power can get away with only using a buffer next to the head end power.  If DPU or manned helpers are used the must be separated from the HAZMAT by a buffer.

From my experience the buffer car(s) used for both ethanol and oil trains are covered hoppers that have been loaded with sand.

Does not a locomotive being moved 'Dead in Tow' also class as a buffer?  I've noticed that on occasion there have been tank cars moving in the 1st car position behind the head end power.. no way to determine if the power is dead or active...Sometimes with 2 units on the head you make the guess that the power is 'on' 'unoccupied'; no way to tell? 

'Wipes' are probably optional for the train crews Oops - Sign

Here a song pick:  "Take the night train to Memphis'

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UsuVKhGnhiE

and for the 'miss a caboose crowd":Laugh  Laugh

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1l442OKA9rw

 

 

 


 

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Posted by BaltACD on Tuesday, May 12, 2020 10:54 PM

Murphy Siding
 
Semper Vaporo

But with the title of the thread having the subject to not talk about it like telling someone to not think of elephants... that will be all that they think about trying not to think about them. 

So, I guess you should try to think about elephants on a train? Come to think of it, that beats thinking about snakes on a plane.

Ringling Bros. stopped operating the Circus Train several years ago - so there are no longer any elephants on the train.

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Posted by Murphy Siding on Tuesday, May 12, 2020 10:45 PM

Semper Vaporo

But with the title of the thread having the subject to not talk about it like telling someone to not think of elephants... that will be all that they think about trying not to think about them.

 

So, I guess you should try to think about elephants on a train? Come to think of it, that beats thinking about snakes on a plane.

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Posted by Semper Vaporo on Tuesday, May 12, 2020 10:42 PM

But with the title of the thread having the subject to not talk about it like telling someone to not think of elephants... that will be all that they think about trying not to think about them.

Semper Vaporo

Pkgs.

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Posted by Flintlock76 on Tuesday, May 12, 2020 10:05 PM

I'm with you Murph!

Wanna go for a ride on the "A" train?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cb2w2m1JmCY  

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Posted by BaltACD on Tuesday, May 12, 2020 9:51 PM

Gramp
The caboose would have to be disinfected first. 

(Sorry, just couldn't brake early enough to not pass the signal). 

Class 1's don't have any cabooses!  Nothing to disenfect.

To my knowledge there is no specific requirement for the buffer car(s).  From a train handling view point the car(s) should be loaded.  From a revenue view point, the carrier 'creating' the buffer car(s) will use cars that are young enough to be used in Interchange Service, but of such a nature that the owner is not using them in revenue service.

Flatland operators with only head end power can get away with only using a buffer next to the head end power.  If DPU or manned helpers are used the must be separated from the HAZMAT by a buffer.

From my experience the buffer car(s) used for both ethanol and oil trains are covered hoppers that have been loaded with sand.

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Posted by Gramp on Tuesday, May 12, 2020 9:42 PM

The caboose would have to be disinfected first. 
(Sorry, just couldn't brake early enough to not pass the signal). 

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The non "You know what" challenge thread
Posted by Murphy Siding on Tuesday, May 12, 2020 9:14 PM

      What would it take for us to have a thread about trains that not once mentions that of which we are tired of hearing?

     Those that can post pics of something, please do.

      Those of us that can't, will have to be content with asking dumb questions. For example, the buffer car between ethanol cars and locomotives- does it have to be a certain kind of car like a boxcar or covered hopper? Could it be an old caboose, for example? 

****note: I changed the thread title 5-13-20 2:17 pm****

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