If you go full-screen at about 8:40 to 8:50 the poor wingman of the plane doing the strafing gets obliterated by the explosion's shock wave.
Tragic, but what can you do?
Another telegram to a family, and another Western Union deliveryman one step closer to a nervous breakdown. War is hell in more ways than one.
rrnut282Here is another video that is a compilation of gun camera footage from WW2. A lot of the movies are fuzzy and slightly out of focus, but you can make out many trains as targets. Some strafe the train until they find the gas or ammo car. On the steam locomotives, you can see a marked change in the plume out of the stack when they get hit. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQ3et1SunPU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQ3et1SunPU
You need to close enough that your ammo will take out the high explosive elements - but in doing so you are too close to the blast for safety.
Never too old to have a happy childhood!
BaltACD rrnut282 Here is another video that is a compilation of gun camera footage from WW2. A lot of the movies are fuzzy and slightly out of focus, but you can make out many trains as targets. Some strafe the train until they find the gas or ammo car. On the steam locomotives, you can see a marked change in the plume out of the stack when they get hit. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQ3et1SunPU You need to close enough that your ammo will take out the high explosive elements - but in doing so you are too close to the blast for safety.
rrnut282 Here is another video that is a compilation of gun camera footage from WW2. A lot of the movies are fuzzy and slightly out of focus, but you can make out many trains as targets. Some strafe the train until they find the gas or ammo car. On the steam locomotives, you can see a marked change in the plume out of the stack when they get hit. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQ3et1SunPU
That was the quandary. Getting close enough to make your shots count, but not so close you'd become a victim yourself. Did you notice the debris flying up with the explosions?
As good as the training was, I still wonder how many of those pilots lost during ground attack missions were lost due to relative inexperience, to say nothing of "Gotta-get-it-gotta-get-it!" target fixation. It was a problem then, it still is now.
During the A10 competition, they were only using "flash/bangs" for the bombing portion, but they played it for real, getting out of there as quickly as possible. Even the bomb itself (500 Lb) would be enough to cause serious damage to the plane.
Larry Resident Microferroequinologist (at least at my house) Everyone goes home; Safety begins with you My Opinion. Standard Disclaimers Apply. No Expiration Date Come ride the rails with me! There's one thing about humility - the moment you think you've got it, you've lost it...
If anyone thinks the Trains forum continues to be popular, take a look at the activity levels. Years of banishing members and locking or deleting threads has killed most interest.
Way to go!!
They should just create a new forum called Other Machines. Many railfans are also interested in airplanes, ships, cars, etc. Such a forum would in no way diminish the railroad ones.
Forums are just like real time interpersonal conversations - they have a starting point and then they go wherever the go during the course of the conversation and they end when enthusiam for what is being discussed ends. The more people that enter the conversation the more divergent insights get offered and the conversation may or maynot follow those divergent insights.
It is all a part of Human Communication.
charlie hebdo If anyone thinks the Trains forum continues to be popular, take a look at the activity levels. Years of banishing members and locking or deleting threads has killed most interest. Way to go!!
Back many moons ago, there were many unanswered questions regarding railroading (hence the mention off threads along that line). There was even more variety in railroading with regard to the number of railroads and their practices.
I'm not gonna say that all the questions have been answered, but there's an element of truth to that.
Now we're down to the big four plus three for railroads - even the shortlines are getting gobbled up by conglomerates.
It's always been the case, though, that if there's a scandal (or other brou-ha-ha), things get lively for a while.
BaltACD Forums are just like real time interpersonal conversations - they have a starting point and then they go wherever the go during the course of the conversation and they end when enthusiam for what is being discussed ends. The more people that enter the conversation the more divergent insights get offered and the conversation may or maynot follow those divergent insights. It is all a part of Human Communication.
Unfortunately, that natural process is frequently interfered with negative unintended consequences.
charlie hebdo BaltACD Forums are just like real time interpersonal conversations - they have a starting point and then they go wherever the go during the course of the conversation and they end when enthusiam for what is being discussed ends. The more people that enter the conversation the more divergent insights get offered and the conversation may or maynot follow those divergent insights. It is all a part of Human Communication. Unfortunately, that natural process is frequently interfered with negative unintended consequences.
Unintended consequences are a consequence of being human.
BaltACD charlie hebdo BaltACD Forums are just like real time interpersonal conversations - they have a starting point and then they go wherever the go during the course of the conversation and they end when enthusiam for what is being discussed ends. The more people that enter the conversation the more divergent insights get offered and the conversation may or maynot follow those divergent insights. It is all a part of Human Communication. Unfortunately, that natural process is frequently interfered with negative unintended consequences. Unintended consequences are a consequence of being human.
But that was not intended.
Semper Vaporo
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Semper Vaporo BaltACD charlie hebdo BaltACD Forums are just like real time interpersonal conversations - they have a starting point and then they go wherever the go during the course of the conversation and they end when enthusiam for what is being discussed ends. The more people that enter the conversation the more divergent insights get offered and the conversation may or maynot follow those divergent insights. It is all a part of Human Communication. Unfortunately, that natural process is frequently interfered with negative unintended consequences. Unintended consequences are a consequence of being human. But that was not intended.
Yes it was! The creator of humanity endowed humans with the freedom to choose their own paths through life.
Intentionality and the supernatural are human constructs, having no independent existence.
BaltACD Semper Vaporo BaltACD charlie hebdo BaltACD Forums are just like real time interpersonal conversations - they have a starting point and then they go wherever the go during the course of the conversation and they end when enthusiam for what is being discussed ends. The more people that enter the conversation the more divergent insights get offered and the conversation may or maynot follow those divergent insights. It is all a part of Human Communication. Unfortunately, that natural process is frequently interfered with negative unintended consequences. Unintended consequences are a consequence of being human. But that was not intended. Yes it was! The creator of humanity endowed humans with the freedom to choose their own paths through life.
All hail the Flying Spaghetti Monster!
Greetings from Alberta
-an Articulate Malcontent
SD70DudeAll hail the Flying Spaghetti Monster!
But how do you know?
He didn't specify who or what his 'Creator' was, which leaves the possibilities open. Even as a placeholder the FSM has little credibility; the point of the question on 'intelligent design' hinges much more on 'we can't know' than 'my faith-based assumption is better than yours'.
I'm still waiting for Ken Ham to demonstrate unambiguously that creation can be attributed to the God of the Bible instead of, say, Prajapati. Not expecting him to manage. But that doesn't speak to whether or not 'creation' was random ... just that we can't say, and hence plan for the 'null alternative' in the absence of a demonstrable alternative.
I steer clear of discussions when they get to politics or religion. I have trained myself to not go there. I just switch to another thread. I hope this thing doesn't go off the rails. Hopefully no one gets involved but then later feels like they got railroaded. Maybe the moderators will keep this on track, before someone goes totally loco.
Perhaps this is a good time for the song "Casey Jones" either the old song or the Dead's.
https://youtu.be/gND23H8DiDM
With a narrow gauge steamer on Ruegen in Germany.
https://youtu.be/_x2m6i4KFqg
Or perhaps trains on classic warbirds.
charlie hebdoIntentionality and the supernatural are human constructs, having no independent existence
I can't recall a single instance where injecting superstition into a thread has actually improved the quality of the conversation.
Convicted One charlie hebdo Intentionality and the supernatural are human constructs, having no independent existence I can't recall a single instance where injecting superstition into a thread has actually improved the quality of the conversation.
charlie hebdo Intentionality and the supernatural are human constructs, having no independent existence
What about the railroad superstition that having the knuckle open on the front of your lead locomotive is bad luck?
SD70DudeWhat about the railroad superstition that having the knuckle open on the front of your lead locomotive is bad luck?
I was always told an open knuckle could close on a car hit at a crossing and "hold onto it", instead of deflecting it.
True superstitionis taking your rain gear so it won't rain.
It's been fun. But it isn't much fun anymore. Signing off for now.
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zugmann True superstitionis taking your rain gear so it won't rain.
That one's not a superstition, it's 100% legit.
I've seen open knuckles fill with snow/ice, and then have to melt it out with fusees before making a joint (the pin will freeze in place and refuse to drop).
I've been told the same thing can happen with dead animal material, but I've (thankfully) never experienced that. Because I make sure to close the knuckle every time.
zugmannTrue superstition is taking your rain gear so it won't rain.
I thought that was a fact of life. Silly me...
tree68 zugmann True superstition is taking your rain gear so it won't rain. I thought that was a fact of life. Silly me...
zugmann True superstition is taking your rain gear so it won't rain.
True SUPERSTITUTION is trying to decide if the race track requires rain tires, intermediates or slicks - BEFORE you start going to the false grid for the race. Knowing you are your only pit crew.
zugmannI was always told an open knuckle could close on a car hit at a crossing and "hold onto it", instead of deflecting it.
BOB WITHORNBack in Spring 1945, my dad's bomb group spent a fair amount of time attacking railyards, rail bridges, rolling stock mostly in the Saigon area. After each of the rail bridge bombing missions, one squadron would drop down to tree tops and use up their 50 cal. any trains etc. They were flying B-24's.
CSSHEGEWISCHGiven my dad's history, I could say a few things here about B-24's but I won't.
Just say that they flew out of at least one field in Northern Ireland that had a railroad across the runway, complete with traffic lights for the planes and appropriately 'interlocked' signals for the railroad. Might be interesting to see if there were any 'attacks' on trains as aircraft returned damaged from missions and needed to get down fast for one reason or another...
I've done the narrow gauge railway on Rugen- It's well worth seeing and there is a place where it runs on dual-gauge track, but no dual-gauge pointwork which is what I was hoping to see.
CSSHEGEWISCH,
I would agree with you. They lost a few planes to flack over French Indo China but most were over Formosa. More were lost to mechanical failures on the 10- 13 hour missions mostly over water. I suspect they had some light ground fire but the squadrons had a blast filling the trains full of 50cal holes
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