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Posted by Brian Schmidt on Saturday, December 16, 2017 3:15 PM

JACKSONVILLE, Fla. – CSX Transportation CEO E. Hunter Harrison, the influential and innovative railroader who was respected, sought-after, feared, and loathed in equal measures, died today. He was 73. Harrison worked his way up through the ran...

http://trn.trains.com/news/news-wire/2017/12/16-csx-ceo-hunter-harrison-has-died 

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Posted by cprtrain on Saturday, December 16, 2017 4:29 PM

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JACKSONVILLE, Fla. – CSX Transportation CEO E. Hunter Harrison, the influential and innovative railroader who was respected, sought-after, feared, and loathed in equal measures, died today. He was 73. Harrison worked his way up through the ran...

http://trn.trains.com/news/news-wire/2017/12/16-csx-ceo-hunter-harrison-has-died 

 

Pray for the thousands of people whose lives were destroyed by Harrison. He was NOT a good man. CSX shareholders are on the hook for $$$$. 

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Posted by Norm48327 on Saturday, December 16, 2017 4:35 PM

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CSX shareholders are on the hook for $$$$.

Hopefully they had not already written the $84,000,000 Check.

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Posted by NKP guy on Saturday, December 16, 2017 4:50 PM

   I'm glad that a few contributors have mentioned the many families affected by EHH during his career; his "success" came at the expense of countless others, and to what effect?  What will be remembered fifty years from now of his tenure at CSX and the other railroads?  What did he build?  How will he be remembered?  What's a man's reputation worth?

  "The evil men that do lives after them; the good is oft interred with their bones;"

                Julius Caesar, Act 3, scene2.

 

 

  

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Posted by BaltACD on Saturday, December 16, 2017 4:52 PM

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CSX shareholders are on the hook for $$$$. 

Hopefully they had not already written the $84,000,000 Check.

I am certain the money has long departed the CSX Treasury!  Remember his and Mantle Ridge's purpose is, was and will continue to be to suck as much money out of CSX in as short a period of time as possible.

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Posted by CMStPnP on Saturday, December 16, 2017 5:14 PM

I hate to say it but I knew CSX would be his last and he would not make it to see all his reforms put in place due to push back.    Next question is, who will rescue CSX? or do we watch it take the Penn Central path.    Remember that EHH was brought in out of desperation of a culture in analysis paralysis and very slow to change if change happened at all.

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Posted by Norm48327 on Saturday, December 16, 2017 5:34 PM

Waiting to see Paul Hilal's next move other than getting seriously drunk tonight.

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Posted by tree68 on Saturday, December 16, 2017 5:38 PM

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Remember that EHH was brought in out of desperation of a culture in analysis paralysis and very slow to change if change happened at all.

I suspect that many feel that EHH was not "brought in" but rather forced his way in, at the behest of his handlers.

That's not to say that CSX was perfect, but they weren't doing all that badly.  The question now is whether the changes already wrought will remain in place, or if cooler heads will prevail.

If his successor continues as a puppet for Mantle Ridge, et al, I'm not optomistic.

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Posted by blue streak 1 on Saturday, December 16, 2017 5:43 PM

A cynic would like to know how much trading of the stock happened in the last month.  Especially insider selling in the last week or two days ?  Strange death announced on a Saturday after stock markets closed ?

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Posted by pajrr on Saturday, December 16, 2017 5:44 PM

As The Ghost of Christmas Future said "Change your ways Mr. Scrooge before it is too late." 

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Posted by BaltACD on Saturday, December 16, 2017 5:44 PM

CMStPnP
I hate to say it but I knew CSX would be his last and he would not make it to see all his reforms put in place due to push back.    Next question is, who will rescue CSX? or do we watch it take the Penn Central path.    Remember that EHH was brought in out of desperation of a culture in analysis paralysis and very slow to change if change happened at all.

BS !!!!!!!!!

Up to March 1, 2017 the CSX 'motto' was 'It starts with the Customer'.

After that date it became 'It starts with Mantle Ridge looting the treasury'.

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Posted by Ulrich on Saturday, December 16, 2017 5:45 PM

He was a great railroader, and his results over the years speak for themselves. RIP, Hunter..

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Posted by zugmann on Saturday, December 16, 2017 5:47 PM

Hunter's dead. 

 

Moving on...

It's been fun.  But it isn't much fun anymore.   Signing off for now. 


  

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Posted by tdmidget on Saturday, December 16, 2017 6:07 PM

I would say "no loss" but the people without jobs that some devoted most of a life to and the customers without service would disagree....

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Posted by poneykeg on Saturday, December 16, 2017 6:58 PM
stock was down #4.64 Friday
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Posted by Murphy Siding on Saturday, December 16, 2017 7:27 PM

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A cynic would like to know how much trading of the stock happened in the last month.  Especially insider selling in the last week or two days ?  Strange death announced on a Saturday after stock markets closed ?

 

If someone in the know at CSX sold a bunch of stock based on what they knew about Harrison's health issues, did they break any laws?

 

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Posted by greyhounds on Saturday, December 16, 2017 8:41 PM
Rest in Eternal Peace Mr. Harrison.  May our merciful God accept you in to His Kingdom.
 
You sure made your days on Earth count.  You certainly made a difference. 
You rattled cages that needed to be rattled.  You forced changes that needed to be made.   Overall, it seems you acted to make things better.   You were not perfect.  You also did wrong to some people who did not deserve their received wrong.

 

But God forgives actions that people will not, or cannot, forgive.   May our merciful God forgive your wrongs while recognizing your strengths.  And may He accept you in to His Eternal Kingdom.
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Posted by Euclid on Saturday, December 16, 2017 9:11 PM

Very well said greyhounds.

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Posted by Convicted One on Saturday, December 16, 2017 11:15 PM

Doubtless he'll get exactly what he deserves.

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Posted by Los Angeles Rams Guy on Sunday, December 17, 2017 12:26 AM
Ulrich, This guy was an evil tyrant; a monster and a functioning lunatic who wrecked countless lives and careers and treated people like dirt. I'm one of them and now it's time for him to pay the fiddler. There's a special place in hell for this guy. Good riddance Eugene.
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Posted by Uncle_Bob on Sunday, December 17, 2017 12:44 AM

I remember reading an interview with him earlier this year in which he said he clientele t to begin the job for long.  I doubt he knew this would happen, or that it would be so soon.  Then again, if he knew at the time he was hired that he had a terminal illness that his money men also knew about, would that mean Hillal and Harrison acted to defraud CSX and its investors, or was it simply bad luck?  Either way, I hope this doesn't sink CSX.

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Posted by tdmidget on Sunday, December 17, 2017 12:56 AM

Uncle_Bob

I remember reading an interview with him earlier this year in which he said he clientele t to begin the job for long.  I doubt he knew this would happen, or that it would be so soon.  Then again, if he knew at the time he was hired that he had a terminal illness that his money men also knew about, would that mean Hillal and Harrison acted to defraud CSX and its investors, or was it simply bad luck?  Either way, I hope this doesn't sink CSX.

 

CSX can't sink they have achieved the "too big to fail" status. it's time that any such be subject to share limits, executive pay limits, and employee screwover limits. We are looking at th tip of an iceberg here. It is your money keeping them afloat. Oh well, bless your hearts.

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Posted by IslandMan on Sunday, December 17, 2017 4:31 AM

A plea to commentators on Hunter Harrison:

E. Hunter Harrison's methods and aims may excite controversy.  He was not however 'evil' - if you want to know what evil business people are like think of Russia in the 1990s, when 'biznismen' routinely hired hitmen to eliminate competition; or think of the narco barons of Latin America.  Hunter Harrison was a controversial figure in the railroad business - he was not a Pablo Escobar.

Please bear that in mind when commenting on his recent demise - members of Harrison's family may well read the comments in Trains and be very upset by them.

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Posted by BaltACD on Sunday, December 17, 2017 7:31 AM

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A plea to commentators on Hunter Harrison:

E. Hunter Harrison's methods and aims may excite controversy.  He was not however 'evil' - if you want to know what evil business people are like think of Russia in the 1990s, when 'biznismen' routinely hired hitmen to eliminate competition; or think of the narco barons of Latin America.  Hunter Harrison was a controversial figure in the railroad business - he was not a Pablo Escobar.

Please bear that in mind when commenting on his recent demise - members of Harrison's family may well read the comments in Trains and be very upset by them.

With due respect to the family - while they may have loved him, a great many people viewed him as the devil incarnate.  The family deserve to know how others viewed him.  When you negatively affect the thousands of lives that EHH affected that can not be glossed over, even in death.

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Posted by CMStPnP on Sunday, December 17, 2017 7:50 AM

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A plea to commentators on Hunter Harrison: E. Hunter Harrison's methods and aims may excite controversy.  He was not however 'evil' - if you want to know what evil business people are like think of Russia in the 1990s, when 'biznismen' routinely hired hitmen to eliminate competition; or think of the narco barons of Latin America.  Hunter Harrison was a controversial figure in the railroad business - he was not a Pablo Escobar. Please bear that in mind when commenting on his recent demise - members of Harrison's family may well read the comments in Trains and be very upset by them.

Let me tell you from experience of someone whose Father worked at a Unionized Firm as an executive.    The Family has heard most of the comments already.   The extreme  and emotion based comments are are filed away never to be thought about again.   The more moderate comments are looked at as a matter of opinion.    Not much of an impact.    And as anti-Union as it sounds, Unionized firms come up with some really ridiculous stuff to maintain the "us vs. them" atmosphere that the Union heads prefer to keep support up for the Union.

The only thing that I have witnessed that really bothers a family of a deceased in a time like this would be for example...... that unusually stupid rumor started by  someone (forget if it was a writer or reader) that the C&NW business car was haunted by a certain former C&NW CEO.   Something like that would and did cause a direct rebuke from the family as it implies certain things on the religious front for some that the wife decided went too far.

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Posted by CMStPnP on Sunday, December 17, 2017 7:59 AM

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BS !!!!!!!!! Up to March 1, 2017 the CSX 'motto' was 'It starts with the Customer'. After that date it became 'It starts with Mantle Ridge looting the treasury'.

I'm not arguing that customer service was better prior to EHH because the employees are in control of that.    Was the drop off in customer service due to EHH or employee resistance to EHH, it could be either or and I have no clue which.    However, one thing is still true that was true before EHH's arrival.   CSX as a company is not completely fixed, the job was not complete before EHH's passing and CSX was slowly declining financially as well as stagnating operationally (while NS improved relative to CSX, NS was declining to an extent as well).     You can blame the drop-off in coal in part but not all of it was caused by a drop off in coal.    An example, look how long it took for CSX to develop a capital program to improve clearances across the railroad to handle intermodal double stack trains.   C'mon, it's like 15-20 years after the other Class I railroads budgeted for it and executed on it.    What does that tell you about CSX management or attention to markets prior to EHH?   

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Posted by Ulrich on Sunday, December 17, 2017 8:20 AM

He was controversial for sure, but certainly not evil. One of his strengths was making sure he had good people in place who could take over on short notice if needed. CSX remains in good hands.

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Posted by overall on Sunday, December 17, 2017 9:16 AM

Ulrich

He was controversial for sure, but certainly not evil. One of his strengths was making sure he had good people in place who could take over on short notice if needed. CSX remains in good hands.

 

I hope you are right. I hope that James Foote and company will recognize Hunter's mistakes and fix them. I hope that they have a proper attitude towards customer service. Time will tell, I guess.

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Posted by csxns on Sunday, December 17, 2017 9:52 AM

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special place in hell for this guy

Well i guess some got their Christmas wish.

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Posted by BaltACD on Sunday, December 17, 2017 9:56 AM

CMStPnP
 
BaltACD
BS !!!!!!!!! Up to March 1, 2017 the CSX 'motto' was 'It starts with the Customer'. After that date it became 'It starts with Mantle Ridge looting the treasury'. 

I'm not arguing that customer service was better prior to EHH because the employees are in control of that.    Was the drop off in customer service due to EHH or employee resistance to EHH, it could be either or and I have no clue which.    However, one thing is still true that was true before EHH's arrival.   CSX as a company is not completely fixed, the job was not complete before EHH's passing and CSX was slowly declining financially as well as stagnating operationally (while NS improved relative to CSX, NS was declining to an extent as well).     You can blame the drop-off in coal in part but not all of it was caused by a drop off in coal.    An example, look how long it took for CSX to develop a capital program to improve clearances across the railroad to handle intermodal double stack trains.   C'mon, it's like 15-20 years after the other Class I railroads budgeted for it and executed on it.    What does that tell you about CSX management or attention to markets prior to EHH?   

Au contraire - the clearance program was initiated in the same time frame as it's competitior - NS.  Virginia Avenue and Howard Street tunnels have required more capital intensive solutions and longer construction times than did any of the NS clearance impediments.  EHH killed the Howard Street project which thereby makes the Port of Baltimore a single stack only port as NS/Amtrak don't have a double stack solution either.

CSX was working on enhancing it's intermodal operations until EHH's axe struck and knocked their offerings back to the 1960's level.

What that tells me that EHH was given marching orders by Mantle Ridge to liberate capital from CSX, regardless of the continued health and sustainability of the organism.  Liberate the cash and do it now!

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