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If you are observant going thru Menoite areas you will see no power lines to homes. HOWEVER if you look closely you will see roadside underground service to barns to operate milking macines. At some places the primary feeders are underground and all you will see the ubigious green transformer box only at the roadside.
Deggesty ANd, I hve seen many of that faith riding trains in the Midwest and West, some of whom were on their way to a cruise up to Alaska. They do ride trains.
ANd, I hve seen many of that faith riding trains in the Midwest and West, some of whom were on their way to a cruise up to Alaska. They do ride trains.
One sees them regularly at the Union Station in Utica - both riding the train and riding the bus. There's a parking lot at a town office building not too far from me that often sees Amish (old order) meeting up with the bus.
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Murphy SidingJust so you know, I don't think most of us on this thread are being 100% serious.
I hoped that was the case but thought that there were some who might be otherwise.
Electroliner 1935 Murphy Siding Just so you know, I don't think most of us on this thread are being 100% serious. I hoped that was the case but thought that there were some who might be otherwise.
Murphy Siding Just so you know, I don't think most of us on this thread are being 100% serious.
Yes, nothing too serious about having your horse killed by a train.
Euclid Electroliner 1935 Murphy Siding Just so you know, I don't think most of us on this thread are being 100% serious. I hoped that was the case but thought that there were some who might be otherwise. Yes, nothing too serious about having your horse killed by a train.
Thanks to Chris / CopCarSS for my avatar.
blue streak 1 If you are observant going thru Menoite areas you will see no power lines to homes. HOWEVER if you look closely you will see roadside underground service to barns to operate milking macines. At some places the primary feeders are underground and all you will see the ubigious green transformer box only at the roadside.
You are correct, as far as the Menonite faithful (in S.E.Ks. are concerned) are concerned. In that area, they do use power for farming, they drive trucks,( many maintain a horse and buggy for trip into towns,their farm equipment may have a 'donkey' engine on their horse-drawn hay bailer. IF they have a telephone, it is placed out from their house, and seperate from their residence.
The 'old order' Amish, live on farms with no electricity, they pump water with windmills, and in their home, may use a hand pump to draw water out of a cistern for home use. Cook on wood stoves, and those same stoves serv to heat the residence. And their transportation, locally, is by horse and buggy/or a wagon. They 'hire' a local 'english' person to provide longer distance transportation, as needed. They do work with power tools when on a job, but the tools owner must be present when those tools are being used. Moving buildings or silos they will hire a local farmer or trucker with a large flatbed truck for the move. The local Walmart has designated a grassey area for buggy parking, and where the horses can be grazed, while they are shopping.
Was this in a completely rural area?
If it was more urban, it could have been a carriage for hire. Either way, you hate to see an animal suffer that kind of fate, be it cow, horse or human...
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MookieWas this in a completely rural area?
I'd say not - about 6-7 miles from Lancaster PA, and US30 (Lincoln Highway) is pretty thickly settled, as they say in New England.
Plug the lat and lon I posted earlier into Google and it'll take you there.
Hate to point out this, but.....
Some Amish communities allow cell phones.
Ones in my area have some that allow them, while others don't.
Land-line phones are permitted in my area, but only in the barn/workshop areas.
Different areas follow different rules when it comes to what is permitted.
The real question is why the train didn't include horse evasion technology, so that it could have avoided the collision entirely...
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I wonder if the horse might have been accustomed to the whistles on the steam locomotives of the nearby Strasburg RR, but spooked by the unfamiliar horn blast (if any ?) from the Amtrak AEM7 ? Then again - why a horn if no grade crossings nearby, unless it was an attempt to warn the horse ?
- PDN.
Or the horse was spooked by any number of noises or people and just simply ran...
ricktrains4824Different areas follow different rules when it comes to what is permitted.
Indeed. Near my house it's all old order - oil lanterns on the buggies, along with silver/gray reflective tape. They won't use the triangle. If I head 40 miles south, there are headlights and taillights on the buggies...
I recall reading some years ago that some orders allow ownership of cars - but the chrome has to be covered.
Have we have overlooked a conspiracy from the "Amish Mafia".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amish_Mafia
Never too old to have a happy childhood!
Mookie Or the horse was spooked by any number of noises or people and just simply ran...
There are about 3 or 4 areas of Amish in Iowa. my observations are about the same. Different levels of acceptance of modern items.
My theory is the horse had previously heard a horn and noticed the thoroughbred emblem on a passing NS engine and instantly fell in love. Again being in the area and hearing a diesel's horn, the horse thought it's beloved was returning and took off to meet him/her.
Jeff
jeffhergert . . . My theory is the horse had previously heard a horn and noticed the thoroughbred emblem on a passing NS engine and instantly fell in love. . . . . . . Again being in the area and hearing a diesel's horn, the horse thought it's beloved was returning and took off to meet him/her.
. . . Again being in the area and hearing a diesel's horn, the horse thought it's beloved was returning and took off to meet him/her.
Anyway, Amtrak 624 is a Siemens ACS-64 electric - see: http://bloximages.newyork1.vip.townnews.com/lancasteronline.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/3/13/3132bbdc-060b-11e7-9886-ff5aaf2f4e14/58c36fb625115.image.jpg?resize=1200%2C800
I want to see the FRA/DOT accident report for this one. "Other" and "None of the Above" are in for a workout.
Fatalities and injuries will have an asterisk*?
Make, model, and license number of the vehicle . . .
Who knew there would be romantics on a railroad forum...
The various religious groups that comprise the "Pennsylvania Deutsch" generally allow their various congregations a certain amount of autonomy. Within the Amish, Mennonite, Brethren, and related groups, you will find a pretty wide range of beliefs and practices. As I understand it, they grew out of groups of Germanic immigrants who came to this country because of their pacifism and objections to conscription. They share a belief that the greatest virtue is in hard manual labor, and mechanization is evil.
It's not possible to live in the modern world without some accommodation, and the rationales used by the various groups to accommodate are interesting at least, and often amusing and perplexing to outsiders. For those who accept automobiles, a black car is usually the best. Some will accept plain white. Bright colors are usually out of the question for almost everything. In-home electricity may be banned while it is sometimes acceptable in the barn for "work" purposes. Many consider zippers to be unnecessary mechanical devices and ban them, but they accept the use of buttons. Some insist that a belt is wrong, but suspenders are OK. There have even been those who say that suspenders with 2 straps are excessive. One strap will do nicely, and they have been called the "one-suspender Amish".
So it's pretty hard to speculate whether the nearest Amishman had a phone.
Tom
ACY wrote the following[in part]
"...The various religious groups that comprise the "Pennsylvania Deutsch" generally allow their various congregations a certain amount of autonomy. Within the Amish, Mennonite, Brethren, and related groups, you will find a pretty wide range of beliefs and practices. As I understand it, they grew out of groups of Germanic immigrants who came to this country because of their pacifism and objections to conscription. They share a belief that the greatest virtue is in hard manual labor, and mechanization is evil.
It's not possible to live in the modern world without some accommodation, and the rationales used by the various groups to accommodate are interesting at least, and often amusing and perplexing to outsiders..."
An Amishman once told me that the best way to tell the level of an individual's 'being Amish'(?) in the individual Amishman, was to look at the men's hat. The larger the brim would be a clue to individual's level of 'adherance'(or autonomy or 'modernization'(?) to the tenants of the Anabaptist faith. { 'Old order'Amish wear the larger, rounded crown, and flat brim ( Felt or Straw, depending upon season; some Menonite men tend to effect the smaller, 'snap brim' type}. Thus ends your catachism lesson for this date!
My totally incompetent understanding of the differences between Amish and Mennonite. Amish don't own automobiles, horse & buggy exclusively. Mennonite's do own cars, generally black (may be 'hot rodded' with 427 cu.in. engine with dual 4 barrell carbs) or it may not be.
mudchickenMechanization is OK, it's the computers that are evil!
ACY The various religious groups that comprise the "Pennsylvania Deutsch" generally allow their various congregations a certain amount of autonomy. Within the Amish, Mennonite, Brethren, and related groups, you will find a pretty wide range of beliefs and practices. As I understand it, they grew out of groups of Germanic immigrants who came to this country because of their pacifism and objections to conscription. They share a belief that the greatest virtue is in hard manual labor, and mechanization is evil. It's not possible to live in the modern world without some accommodation, and the rationales used by the various groups to accommodate are interesting at least, and often amusing and perplexing to outsiders. For those who accept automobiles, a black car is usually the best. Some will accept plain white. Bright colors are usually out of the question for almost everything. In-home electricity may be banned while it is sometimes acceptable in the barn for "work" purposes. Many consider zippers to be unnecessary mechanical devices and ban them, but they accept the use of buttons. Some insist that a belt is wrong, but suspenders are OK. There have even been those who say that suspenders with 2 straps are excessive. One strap will do nicely, and they have been called the "one-suspender Amish". So it's pretty hard to speculate whether the nearest Amishman had a phone. Tom
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jakob_Ammann
How the Amish came to be. Usual wikipedia warnings apply.
Then there's the 'North Dakota Dutch.'
wanswheelThen there's the 'North Dakota Dutch.'
Oil sprinkled tracks????
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