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Posted by CSSHEGEWISCH on Tuesday, March 7, 2017 10:02 AM

PRR did the same thing when it took delivery on its E44 electrics.

The daily commute is part of everyday life but I get two rides a day out of it. Paul
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Posted by NDG on Wednesday, March 8, 2017 12:21 AM

 

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Posted by SD70M-2Dude on Wednesday, March 8, 2017 11:28 PM

Great photos of Bingham Canyon NDG!  Here's some more:

http://www.railpictures.net/showphotos.php?railroad=Kennecott%20Copper%20Corp.

Most of those are from Bingham, but there are a few from Kennecott's other railroads too.  My favourite is this shot, note the portable catenary:

http://www.railpictures.net/photo/391146/

And switching with these things must have been annoying for the brakemen, with no footboard and the only steps are in the centre of the unit:

http://www.railpictures.net/photo/396515/

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Posted by CSSHEGEWISCH on Thursday, March 9, 2017 6:52 AM

The 400-series electrics were the "road" power, used for hauling ore from the top of the pit to the smelter.  Note that they they don't have the specialized pantographs for contacting the overhead in the pit which may be alongside the track to allow the power shovels to load the dump cars.

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Posted by Paul of Covington on Thursday, March 9, 2017 12:01 PM

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And switching with these things must have been annoying for the brakemen, with no footboard and the only steps are in the centre of the unit:

http://www.railpictures.net/photo/396515/

http://www.railpictures.net/photo/396515/

    At the right side of this picture what is the purpose of the steps to nowhere at the end of the locomotive?   It must be for when they pulled up alongside something, but what?

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Posted by DS4-4-1000 on Thursday, March 9, 2017 12:11 PM

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At the right side of this picture what is the purpose of the steps to nowhere at the end of the locomotive? It must be for when they pulled up alongside something, but what?

The answer is on the other end of the locomotive.  There is a platform about half way up the hood that is reached by the steps on the other end platform.

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Posted by Paul of Covington on Thursday, March 9, 2017 12:17 PM

  Ah, I get it now.   Thanks.

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Posted by Paul_D_North_Jr on Thursday, March 9, 2017 8:36 PM

Good article on that operation, back in the day:

Kennecott�s Bingham Canyon operation
from Trains March 1974  p. 36

http://trc.trains.com/Train%20Magazine%20Index.aspx?articleId=66954&view=ViewIssue&issueId=5998 

- PDN. 

"This Fascinating Railroad Business" (title of 1943 book by Robert Selph Henry of the AAR)
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Posted by Miningman on Saturday, March 11, 2017 2:42 PM

Cannot seem to get my own personal photos from Flin Flon smelting operations from my i Pad onto the forum. A simple finger hold and then paste does not work. Something to do with i-cloud? I don't know. Perhaps when I get back on a Windows laptop on Monday I will get this done. If I use the "insert photo" it tells me to "look up". Maybe not terribly Mac friendly or things are needlessly complicated. 

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Posted by NDG on Saturday, March 11, 2017 5:11 PM

 

Thank You.

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Posted by RME on Saturday, March 11, 2017 6:32 PM

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Have boilers, locomotive or other, collapsed due to vacuum? as described?

Personally:  Locomotive boiler built for a pressure of over 240psi.  Factor of safety formerly 4 and something, now 5 times that.

Maximum pressure in psi developed by the best vacuum in space, just over 14.7.  That achievable through condensation in a boiler (the steam will NOT go straight to full condensation in a hot blown-down boiler) will be less.  But even so...

Do you really think that boiler is going to collapse?  Or that some of the flexible staybolting will work sideways and cam its threaded ends out of the fireside sheeting as the heads jam 'hard over' in the thimbles?

 

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Posted by NDG on Saturday, March 11, 2017 8:20 PM

RME

 

 
NDG
Have boilers, locomotive or other, collapsed due to vacuum? as described?

 

Personally:  Locomotive boiler built for a pressure of over 240psi.  Factor of safety formerly 4 and something, now 5 times that.

Maximum pressure in psi developed by the best vacuum in space, just over 14.7.  That achievable through condensation in a boiler (the steam will NOT go straight to full condensation in a hot blown-down boiler) will be less.  But even so...

Do you really think that boiler is going to collapse?  Or that some of the flexible staybolting will work sideways and cam its threaded ends out of the fireside sheeting as the heads jam 'hard over' in the thimbles?

 

 

 

Urban legend, just as I thought.

 

But.............  Thank You

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Posted by BaltACD on Saturday, March 11, 2017 9:16 PM

RME
NDG
Have boilers, locomotive or other, collapsed due to vacuum? as described?

 

Personally:  Locomotive boiler built for a pressure of over 240psi.  Factor of safety formerly 4 and something, now 5 times that.

Maximum pressure in psi developed by the best vacuum in space, just over 14.7.  That achievable through condensation in a boiler (the steam will NOT go straight to full condensation in a hot blown-down boiler) will be less.  But even so...

Do you really think that boiler is going to collapse?  Or that some of the flexible staybolting will work sideways and cam its threaded ends out of the fireside sheeting as the heads jam 'hard over' in the thimbles?

However, back in the 19th Century when operating steam pressure was much lower and boiler manufacturing techniques were still being learned - I suspect it MAY have happen to a lightly built engine or two as the physical characteristics of the machine were still trying to be solved.

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Posted by RME on Sunday, March 12, 2017 10:26 AM

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Cannot seem to get my own personal photos from Flin Flon smelting operations from my iPad onto the forum. A simple finger hold and then paste does not work. Something to do with i-cloud? I don't know.

It is not a crApple thing, although certainly they could have provided an easy iCloud workaround.  Any photo you want to appear in a Forum post has to have an URL, meaning it has to be Web-accessible.

The easiest way to do that is to upload it to one of the 'free' Web picture services, like (pulling a name off the top of my head) PhotoBucket.  Then capture the direct image URL the site provides and use that with the little 'paste image' tool (the little mountains-and-sun button under the underlining format button, if you're not familiar with mystery-meat navigation) to insert the picture, rather than the clickable link, into the post.

Do not put one of these images into a post as a red clickable link.  Even on a Mac, the amount of crapware and cookies the site will likely shovel to your browser is immense if you make the mistake of visiting one of its pages directly.  How did you think you were getting free Internet photo posting service -- altruism?

There have been a number of posts in the Trains Forums over the years on the best ways to store and then insert images, and I recommend them to your review; there are and were people on here who know much more about it than I do.

 

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Posted by Miningman on Sunday, March 12, 2017 11:29 AM

RME- Ok thank you. I've posted many pictures onto this forum from my iPad without problem..it's only my own pics taken on the iPad or iPhone that won't go...which is what you are describing. Suspected that one had to create a URL...been a Mac fan going back to the early nineties with a LC but they seem to be getting less friendly over the years and each new operating update seems to get further away from ease of operation...in fact the goal appears to be that a person must purchase a new i-whatever because eventually what one has won't function at all.

New i-pads are very pricey. Suppose I'll have to start carting my laptop from work home once again. Not terribly fond of doing that only because then I start doing work things at home on Excel and Word and making powerpoints and so on. Do not want to be making love to my computer all day long, even if it is -36 outside. 

The i-Pad is a suitable compromise because it has limitations. 

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Posted by Miningman on Sunday, March 12, 2017 11:58 AM
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Posted by Miningman on Sunday, March 12, 2017 12:02 PM

Well that worked, ...this is a side dump car from Hudson Bay Mining and Smelting in Flin Flon. Was just testing trying to post pictures from icloud on phone and iPad. 

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Posted by Miningman on Sunday, March 12, 2017 12:56 PM

Well what happened? The photo posted just fine and then after 10 minutes turned into a reproduction of the great blizzard of '88. 

Poof, gone. 

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Posted by wanswheel on Sunday, March 12, 2017 4:15 PM
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Posted by Miningman on Sunday, March 12, 2017 6:25 PM

Now on that Canadian Pacific Airlines map...if you draw a line connecting Flin Flon with Fort McMuarry, put a dot right in the middle and go due north 90deg from the line about an inch up that it where I now reside. 

Its a long way from Burlington and Simcoe in Southern Ontario of my youth. 

Not quite far North enough for Polar Bears Wanswheel but you can see them in Churchill on Hudson's Bay...an adventurous soul can even take the train. 

We have fat black bears, wolves, beavers galore, lynx, martins, otters and so on. The one fella you do not want to run into is the wolverine. Nature's Cuisinart! Never mind that playing dead routine, just run like hell. The large backyard is fenced in all around but I turn on banks of lighting and check before I let the dog out when it's dark. Bears and wolves ( usually 3 together) are always coming around town.

-36 here last night, -28 as I write this. Lake ice goes out first week of June. 

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Posted by RME on Monday, March 13, 2017 12:08 PM

wanswheel
And a polar bear eating marshmallows.

In the great blizzard of 1888.

Fortunately, for your amusement, here is the feed from the WolverineCam in Dauphin.

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Posted by Miningman on Monday, March 13, 2017 8:49 PM

That is, I would imagine, a pretty good approximation of one's last moments after your eyeballs have been ripped out, you are fast losing consciousness, and the last sounds you will hear. 

Fortunately these crazy things, like most of natures really dangerous animals, stay well away from everything, dwelling in the dark inaccessible avoided corners of the forest. 

Our local trading post, a real genuine one, has a stuffed albino specimen, a rarer than the rare, ...it's also pretty large for a wolverine. 

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Posted by Sunnyland on Wednesday, March 15, 2017 5:56 PM

sounds like somebody messed up big time on this one, and I would think it was dispatch who directed the train to use that route, but maybe the crew needed to recheck the manifest too and see if they were too light. Never gave that a thought about the stress on empties, but I never took physics in school and not that good at math either, But it makes sense. I'm sure that was a bad one to clean up. 

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Posted by NDG on Tuesday, March 21, 2017 12:02 PM

 
Thank You.

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Posted by Miningman on Tuesday, March 21, 2017 12:35 PM

Legend as to how Nunavut got it's name. When the first explorers came back they were asked "How much of the land is suitable for agriculture and growing?

They replied..."nun-of-it"

Yes that picture along the right of way with the loco buried in the snow looks like my backyard. -35 last night, nails in the house were popping all night again. They had warmed up to -18 temps and then The cold hit them. Freaks the dog out...she gets scared.

 

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Posted by Miningman on Tuesday, March 21, 2017 12:47 PM

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Posted by Miningman on Tuesday, March 21, 2017 12:48 PM

Sort of looks like Castle Rock...someone needs to build a railway between those peaks. 

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Posted by Miningman on Tuesday, March 21, 2017 12:53 PM

Trango Towers, 6,258m 

Check out Mt. Asgard, Mt. Thor and Mt. Odin. 

Places very few have ventured.

Large iron ore, gold, diamond deposits.

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Posted by NDG on Tuesday, March 21, 2017 1:01 PM

Thank You.

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Posted by RME on Tuesday, March 21, 2017 1:11 PM

Miningman
Check out Mt. Asgard, Mt. Thor and Mt. Odin.

Isn't that Mt. Thangorodrim in the middle?

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