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Convicted OneI'm from a little town skirting Atlanta called "Vinings".
Cobb County. Hmm.
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Paul of Covington Sometimes I wonder what goes on in some people's minds.
Sometimes I wonder what goes on in some people's minds.
So do they!
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Murphy Siding Is Fort Wayne your hometown?
I'm from a little town skirting Atlanta called "Vinings".
The people in the photo look like real cappuccino drinkers to me (foamers)
Norm48327 Euclid Norm, I don’t follow your point in this exchange. It was somewhat a play on the phrase about the lesser educated regarding things they discover on line. Some are the type P.T. Barnum spoke of who are so gullible as to believe almost anything they are told or read. They either lack the mental capacity or the incentive to further research; they simply take what they read as gospel. They are the ones the "Nigerian prince" scammers can easily convince they need to send money to be able to claim their new-found fortune. Capiche?
Euclid Norm, I don’t follow your point in this exchange.
It was somewhat a play on the phrase about the lesser educated regarding things they discover on line. Some are the type P.T. Barnum spoke of who are so gullible as to believe almost anything they are told or read. They either lack the mental capacity or the incentive to further research; they simply take what they read as gospel. They are the ones the "Nigerian prince" scammers can easily convince they need to send money to be able to claim their new-found fortune.
Capiche?
tree68 Murphy Siding Unknown beans? Livin' on the edge! I was thinking the same thing! Kinda like taking all the labels off the canned food...
Murphy Siding Unknown beans? Livin' on the edge!
Unknown beans? Livin' on the edge!
I was thinking the same thing! Kinda like taking all the labels off the canned food...
Thanks to Chris / CopCarSS for my avatar.
EuclidNorm, I don’t follow your point in this exchange.
Norm
schlimm well grounded The coffee was not burned like a French roast
well grounded The coffee was
not burned like a French roast
schlimm I think the broad findings support AGCC, but specific regional impacts are much less well grounded. The coffee was very good. Robust but not burned like a French roast is in US.
I think the broad findings support AGCC, but specific regional impacts are much less well grounded.
The coffee was very good. Robust but not burned like a French roast is in US.
Good, the emoticn went where I wanted it to go!
Johnny
EuclidIn your my original comment, I posted an article about how global warming is hurting coffee production which requires cool temperatures. You responded by implying that the article is false because it is on the Internet. But then you told Schlimm that you were not taking either side of the debate.
There are two different things going on here. One of which is the existence of meaningful levels of anthropogenic global warming (now politically-correctly renamed 'anthropogenic climate change'*, and the other of which is a report (which I have not yet read) purporting to implicate climate change as the cause of "significant impact on coffee production" in a particular geographic area. There is significant 'settled science' in the former, and almost certainly a large number of unproven (or insufficiently-documented) assertions in the latter. I do not think Norm was mistaken in treating it as 'more stuff you read on the Internet' before reading it, as long as he does read it (and understand it properly) and changes his opinion if the science is, in fact, either good or defensible.
I did not originally care much for the way the phys.org report was phrasing some of its claims, for example (in prose that uses commas improperly) assuming that trends observed up to 2012 could be extrapolated to 2060 without specifically providing the assumptions used. But I find to my delight that the link to the original paper actually brings up the full paper, not just the abstract, so we can determine how well Craparo et al. have actually done
In any case, before we get into that oh-so-familiar shooting of the messenger, I'm glad you provided the reference for us, and I'm looking forward to having time to read it.
*I think we need to come up with some all-Greek or all-Latin term for the subject, as I was taught needed to happen - 'television' coming in for criticism because it mixes a Latin root and a Greek prefix...)
NOTE: The original coffee thread was, in my opinion, "railroad-related" because coffee is a substance that is the 'lifeblood' of the railroad industry, and many railroaders and railfans alike may want to discuss the finer nuances of that lifeblood. I am not nearly as sanguine that a global-warming discussion passes the railroad-content smell test, and while I think certain posters are being a bit 'doctrinaire' in insisting posts have railroad 'relevance', I think it is difficult to deny that a global-warming discussion of coffee has crossed the invisible line that convicted one (and 'official' stated Kalmbach policy, if that applies) has drawn.
Nah. Some whole beans I bought a while back. Transferred to a large jar, sealed and keep in the freezer. The label is gone, but I think Sumatra, medium to dark roast.
Larry Resident Microferroequinologist (at least at my house) Everyone goes home; Safety begins with you My Opinion. Standard Disclaimers Apply. No Expiration Date Come ride the rails with me! There's one thing about humility - the moment you think you've got it, you've lost it...
Norm48327 Euclid LIFEBLOOD of the INDUSTRY THREATENED WITH EXTINCTION by CLIMATE CHANGE http://phys.org/news/2015-04-coffee-production-decline.html “Scientists have provided the first on-the-ground evidence that climate change has already had a substantial impact on coffee production in the East African Highlands region, according to a recently published paper in Agricultural and Forest Meteorology.” You read it on the internet so it must be true (NOT). Edit: My smilie landed where I wanted it to.
Euclid LIFEBLOOD of the INDUSTRY THREATENED WITH EXTINCTION by CLIMATE CHANGE http://phys.org/news/2015-04-coffee-production-decline.html “Scientists have provided the first on-the-ground evidence that climate change has already had a substantial impact on coffee production in the East African Highlands region, according to a recently published paper in Agricultural and Forest Meteorology.”
“Scientists have provided the first on-the-ground evidence that climate change has already had a substantial impact on coffee production in the East African Highlands region, according to a recently published paper in Agricultural and Forest Meteorology.”
You read it on the internet so it must be true (NOT).
Edit: My smilie landed where I wanted it to.
Murphy Siding In my best Peter Sellers as President Merkin Muffley voice from Dr. Strangelove: "Gentlemen. You can't fight in here. This is the war room."..... Gentlemen, you can't fight about global warming in here. This is the Trains Magazine Forums to talk about.....coffee.
In my best Peter Sellers as President Merkin Muffley voice from Dr. Strangelove: "Gentlemen. You can't fight in here. This is the war room."..... Gentlemen, you can't fight about global warming in here. This is the Trains Magazine Forums to talk about.....coffee.
Norm and I never argue, just discuss stuff in a civil fashion. Back to coffee. I resumed grinding some unknown beans this morning in my Peugeot hand grinder (with a helical grinder) and brewing as usual in the French press.
Sehr gut, mein Freund von SD!
And some posters still rely on the old saw of the science being settled. Were that true, we'd still be living on a flat earth. Science is never settled. One discovery leads to another but that doesn't always mean the outcome of the research is settled and true.
Norm48327 schlimm Oh right out of Rush's playbook. Blame the press and the climate scientist conspiracy. You know about railroads but know nothing of how academia works. "The sky is falling! The sky is falling!" Well, we'll find out in due time whether that is true or false. In the meantime we watch wih amusement while the academic community tries it's best to sell their theory to the masses. When working with unknowns, academia has often found itself on the wrong track while in pursuit of truth. Are you saying there is no possibility they could be wrong? They are certainly spending an enormous amount of time and money trying convincing us they're right. Meanwhile, Al Gore sells his carbon credits for a tidy profit while continuing his opulent lifestyle. Like a boss once said to an employee: "Tell me again how good you are. I'm beginning to lose faith".
schlimm Oh right out of Rush's playbook. Blame the press and the climate scientist conspiracy. You know about railroads but know nothing of how academia works.
"The sky is falling! The sky is falling!"
Well, we'll find out in due time whether that is true or false. In the meantime we watch wih amusement while the academic community tries it's best to sell their theory to the masses. When working with unknowns, academia has often found itself on the wrong track while in pursuit of truth. Are you saying there is no possibility they could be wrong? They are certainly spending an enormous amount of time and money trying convincing us they're right. Meanwhile, Al Gore sells his carbon credits for a tidy profit while continuing his opulent lifestyle.
Like a boss once said to an employee: "Tell me again how good you are. I'm beginning to lose faith".
Science has brought us many discoveries, among them a round earth, discoveries of bacteria and other biomed advance, atomic energy, the space program, computers, internet and on and on. But I guess yoiu are a skeptic about the reality of those also?
Newsflash! Almost nobody in climate science or progressives pay any attention to Al Gore. You betray your out-of-date, irrelevant sources to even mention him.
schlimmOh right out of Rush's playbook. Blame the press and the climate scientist conspiracy. You know about railroads but know nothing of how academia works.
Never watched or listened to him, so he's not a factor. I've drawn my own conclusions.
Like anything else, if you follow the money, you find lots of interesting things.
tree68 BaltACD And the Earth is 4.5 BILLION years old - 140 +/- years of records explain how much of those 4.5 billion years? Bingo! Remember that one volcanic eruption (Krakatoa) dropped the global temperature several degrees for several years. The shortsighted way people look at things these days, the press would have been rife with reports that we were headed for an ice age! While things are getting warmer, and mankind may well be responsible for some portion of it, blaming mankind completely for climate change is a human conceit. And a moneymaker for some few people who've figured out how to milk it...
BaltACD And the Earth is 4.5 BILLION years old - 140 +/- years of records explain how much of those 4.5 billion years?
Bingo! Remember that one volcanic eruption (Krakatoa) dropped the global temperature several degrees for several years. The shortsighted way people look at things these days, the press would have been rife with reports that we were headed for an ice age!
While things are getting warmer, and mankind may well be responsible for some portion of it, blaming mankind completely for climate change is a human conceit. And a moneymaker for some few people who've figured out how to milk it...
Oh right out of Rush's playbook. Blame the press and the climate scientist conspiracy. You know about railroads but know nothing of how academia works.
BaltACDAnd the Earth is 4.5 BILLION years old - 140 +/- years of records explain how much of those 4.5 billion years?
Convicted One Murphy Siding Have you come up with a good train subject yet? We could talk about this picture:
Murphy Siding Have you come up with a good train subject yet?
We could talk about this picture:
Norm48327I was not taking either side of the debate. I was merely pointing out that there is good and bad information out there. Separating the wheat from the chaff can sometimes be daunting.
Absolutely! I don't even bother to try to correct science deniers. But I will take on progressives who present weak info on a host of topics.
BaltACD 140 +/- years of records explain how much of those 4.5 billion years?
Can't change what happened 4.5 billion years ago, but we can change what we might do tomorrow.
schlimm Unlike some members on here, and not relying on the media or the blogosphere, both NOAA and NASA said 2014 was the hottest year on earth in the ~140 years of records. And caused primarily by man. And 2015 broke that.
Unlike some members on here, and not relying on the media or the blogosphere, both NOAA and NASA said 2014 was the hottest year on earth in the ~140 years of records. And caused primarily by man. And 2015 broke that.
And the Earth is 4.5 BILLION years old - 140 +/- years of records explain how much of those 4.5 billion years?
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