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Lifeblood of the industry (coffee of course)
Posted by zugmann on Monday, January 4, 2016 12:11 PM

Ok, enough of the CP/NS, crossing discussions, and political crap for a few minutes:

At the risk of sounding like our resident troll, just curious what people (including non-RRers, you people are people, too) are drinking lately.  I'm not a huge coffee drinker, but have been drinking more lately.  My choice of brew?  Rogers Company  San Francisco Bay Rainforest blend. 

And this is relevant to the forum, because you don't want to see a railroad operate wihtout coffee. Just isn't going to happen.  Although a lot of the newer guys like those cans of chemicals disguised as energy drinks.  Ugh.

 

 

It's been fun.  But it isn't much fun anymore.   Signing off for now. 


  

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Posted by D.Carleton on Monday, January 4, 2016 12:23 PM

Whatever they are brewing in the station. "Don't throw that away. It'll still be good at 2 AM."

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Posted by zugmann on Monday, January 4, 2016 12:29 PM

Stuff we have in our office isn't even fit to be tossed into the ballast.

It's been fun.  But it isn't much fun anymore.   Signing off for now. 


  

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Posted by Norm48327 on Monday, January 4, 2016 12:37 PM

I buy the beans and grind them myself. I've always liked a robust cuppa but I drink too much of it as in the whole pot every morning. Ah well, keeps the kidneys functioning. Wink

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Posted by jeffhergert on Monday, January 4, 2016 12:42 PM

I drink coffee more during the colder months.  Not so much the rest of the year.  My choice is what ever the wife buys at home or whatever the convience store has.  Currently at home it's Folgers, mountain grown.  The motel provides Maxwell House.

Truth be told, I like tea better, cold not hot.  There I like the diet Snapple peach or raspberry.  I usually get a bottle to go and then get the individual mix packets to refill it.  The drinking water the railroad provides is currently in 10oz bottles and 3 bottles provide 2 refills.

As you may gather, refined I ain't.

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Posted by tree68 on Monday, January 4, 2016 12:49 PM

Not a coffee drinker - never developed a taste for it, although I always loved going to the A&P with Mom.  You could grind your own, and I like the smell of fresh ground coffee.

I'm a tea drinker - hot and cold.  I happen to like my tea sweet (hot and cold).  I, too, will use the drink packets from time to time.  For hot tea, I tend to Bigelow's Orange and Spice.

For rehydration, it's water, with the occasional sports drink.  We usually have water available at the station or on the train.

Here in the north woods, finding sweet tea used to be a real challenge.  The expansion of the military base a few years ago brought lots of southern transplants, so sweet iced tea is a bit more common.

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Posted by zugmann on Monday, January 4, 2016 12:53 PM

tree68
Here in the north woods, finding sweet tea used to be a real challenge. The expansion of the military base a few years ago brought lots of southern transplants, so sweet iced tea is a bit more common.

 

I made the mistake of ordering a sweet tea when I was down south.  No thanks; you guys can keep that stuff.

I usually make a gallon of Lipton plain brewed iced tea (have to go online to get the bigger bags that make a whole gallon), sweeten it up a little with some honey, then I usually cut some lemonade in with it. 

It's been fun.  But it isn't much fun anymore.   Signing off for now. 


  

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Posted by Murphy Siding on Monday, January 4, 2016 1:11 PM

     I guess I'll have to give up my dream of running off and joining the railroad.  I don't drink tea or coffee.

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Posted by diningcar on Monday, January 4, 2016 1:20 PM

In the 'good ole days' (1955-1957) when we were providing the engineering for two bridge projects we drank the coffee the bridge workers made, boiled on the site. To determine if it was too strong we through a metal track washer in it. If the washer floated the coffee was too strong. Thats the story I always tell when there are complaints about my coffee.

Much later, in the office, we bought Maxwell House. Their blend that Fred Harvey used in his hotels and restaurants along the Santa Fe.

 

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Posted by Euclid on Monday, January 4, 2016 1:27 PM
Like everything else at the grocery store, the quality of coffee has been dropping because the cost of commodities is inflating and the customer base will not fully accept a corresponding retail price increase.  So manufacturers cut the quality because customers will not notice as readily as a price increase.  The one mainstream ground coffee that I can still drink is Folgers Black Silk.  Good coffee has to be made from Arabica beans as a start, and must be high quality Arabica beans to close the deal. 
There are manufactures who boast about using Arabica beans, but the quality can still be dreadful.  High quality Arabica coffee tastes better the stronger it is.  But it is not that kind of strong coffee that has sat on the warmer for six hours and bends your spoon.  High quality Arabica coffee brewed strong has a very complex flavor that begins to remind you of fruits and chocolate.  I doubt that many people have ever tasted it because it is so unavailable these days.
When Folgers first introduced Black Silk (about 2009), they put exceptionally high quality Arabica into the product, apparently to give the product launch a boost.  That lasted for about six months.   I would say that if you could even buy the top quality Arabica coffee at the market price, it would be $75 per pound.
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Posted by BaltACD on Monday, January 4, 2016 1:45 PM

Back in the day I was a  coffee drinker - still remember Wreck Train coffee from the 75 cup coffee maker (perc I think).  Strong enough for the coffee to rerail the equipment all by itself.

Presently an Ice Tea drinker - make it at home and 'bottle' it in 20oz Gatorade bottles and then freeze them.  Take them to work and put them in the microwave for a couple of minutes to partially defrost them - Ice Tea that doesn't get diluted.

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Posted by Semper Vaporo on Monday, January 4, 2016 1:49 PM

I can't even stand the smell of coffee.  I drink a lot of Aquafina FlavorSplash "Grape" flavor bottled water (don't like the smell of the other flavors!) but I have to go to 2 or 3 stores to get enough to last 2 weeks between trips for groceries.

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Posted by Ulrich on Monday, January 4, 2016 2:01 PM

Tap water. If its cold out like today I'll start my day with a cup of coffee or tea.

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Posted by tree68 on Monday, January 4, 2016 2:02 PM

BaltACD
...still remember Wreck Train coffee from the 75 cup coffee maker (perc I think).

It wasn't "Wreck Train" coffee, but I worked for a fellow who was always the first one in the office in the morning.  We had a 20(?) cup "drip" pot.  He'd make the coffee strong enough to pull off a cup before the perk cycle was done, meaning that by the time it was done, one's spoon would stand up by itself...

When he retired, I acquired one of his coffee cups and filled it with wax, with a spoon in it.   The spoon could be used to pull the "coffee" out of the cup...  Devil

The last place I worked had one of those commercial-style coffee makers.  It was funny - nobody ever drank the last cup (because they'd be expected to make the next pot...)

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Posted by Ulrich on Monday, January 4, 2016 2:22 PM

Those commercial coffee stations and water coolers are a real damper on productivity. Get rid of those and GDP would probably go up by a percent.

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Posted by zugmann on Monday, January 4, 2016 2:31 PM

Ulrich

Those commercial coffee stations and water coolers are a real damper on productivity. Get rid of those and GDP would probably go up by a percent.

 

Coffee is the only way to have productivity!

It's been fun.  But it isn't much fun anymore.   Signing off for now. 


  

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Posted by Mookie on Monday, January 4, 2016 2:53 PM

Ahem...Euclid - you gave a good report on coffee, but never did say what you prefer to drink.  Kisses

If a restaurant has coffee that tends on the mild side - I will drink coffee.  But at home - it is only really cold tap water (we have some of the best tasting water in most of the US) and 1-2% milk!  Lots of milk!  Does a body good!  (yes, I do have good bones and teeth, thank you for asking!)

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Posted by Norm48327 on Monday, January 4, 2016 2:59 PM

Ulrich

Those commercial coffee stations and water coolers are a real damper on productivity. Get rid of those and GDP would probably go up by a percent.

 

No coffee, no workee.

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Posted by D.Carleton on Monday, January 4, 2016 3:09 PM

Murphy Siding

     I guess I'll have to give up my dream of running off and joining the railroad.  I don't drink tea or coffee.

Funny thing; I didn't start drinking coffee until I went railroading.

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Posted by mudchicken on Monday, January 4, 2016 3:13 PM

Not a coffee drinker (quit that in college ages ago)

Diet Dr. Pepper (55 gallon IV-drip)

When it gets rough, the chemicals change to Diet Mountain Dew

 

 

...follow the trail of 2-liter bottles

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Posted by Mookie on Monday, January 4, 2016 3:57 PM

mudchicken

Not a coffee drinker (quit that in college ages ago)

Diet Dr. Pepper (55 gallon IV-drip)

When it gets rough, the chemicals change to Diet Mountain Dew

 

 

...follow the trail of 2-liter bottles

 

Psst - Sir Chicken - both contain aspertame - which could raise havoc w/your throat or esophagus - have you tried diet pepsi or diet coke w/splenda? First hand experience and big dr bill!

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Posted by Euclid on Monday, January 4, 2016 4:15 PM

Mookie

Ahem...Euclid - you gave a good report on coffee, but never did say what you prefer to drink.  Kisses

If a restaurant has coffee that tends on the mild side - I will drink coffee.  But at home - it is only really cold tap water (we have some of the best tasting water in most of the US) and 1-2% milk!  Lots of milk!  Does a body good!  (yes, I do have good bones and teeth, thank you for asking!)

 

 

Mookie,
I drink that Folgers Black Silk that I mentioned.  It is the best I can find in the grocery store.  I also think it critical to use the pause-and-brew feature to extract the first cup as soon as it is produced.
Any coffee is better when tapped off early in the brew cycle.   That means that it is early in the extraction process.  The extraction process gradually wears down the coffee to the dregs.  So it pays to get it early.  I like milk too. 

 

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Posted by Convicted One on Monday, January 4, 2016 4:37 PM

In warm weather, it's going to be Dr Pepper for me. As another poster stated "just follow the trail of empty 2 litre bottles".

In the cooler months, I think it's pretty hard to beat a good strong cup of Folgers, properly made. If I'm at Starbucks, I'll order their "espresso roast" standard coffee.

 

Used to landlord warehouse properties out in Oakland CA.   And a number of my tenants were coffee brokers. They'd bring in coffee that was still green right off the boats, and spread them out on the cement floors to start drying. Tens of thousands of square feet at a time.  Anyone who has never smelled green coffee, should give it a try.  One won't soon forget it.Dead

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Posted by Deggesty on Monday, January 4, 2016 4:57 PM

I did not drink much coffee until the summer before my last year in high school, when I spent two months in Baton Ruuge with my oldest brother and his family. My sister-in-law would make three cups of coffee just before we went to bed (I always got the third cup, with a few grounds in it). No, it was much better tasting than what you would find on Decatur Street in New Orleans.

In college, I did not drink coffee in the morning (I found out, one day when I was back in the kitchen, that the cooks put some kind of stretcher in the coffee). I did drink it occasionally at the evening meal after all the milk on the table had been drunk--I would put a spoon in my glass (they were heavy glass) and start pouring coffee into the glass, and my friend who had spent three years, mostly in Korea, in the Marine Corps would say, "Younger that's not Pyrex," and I would say, "I know," and fill the glass. I never broke a glass. The coffee left over from breakfast was taken to the college bookstore, a people were so desperate for coffee that they would pay for it and drink it. One day, a classmate of mine put salt into my friend's coffee; he was a bit upset, and asked me for some of the alum that I had prepared in chemistry lab. He put that into the other boy's coffee--and it improved the taste of the coffee, dragging all sorts of stuff down to the bottom of the cup.

I do not like bitter coffee, and it seems that many of the people around here do like it, so I have had to be careful when buying coffee for my use. I have appreciated the coffee served in Amtrak diners and what the sleeping car attendants make.

By the way, my Marine friend  said that if the horseshoe floats, the coffee is ready to drink.

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Posted by ruderunner on Monday, January 4, 2016 5:04 PM

Put me in for black silk as well, but alas I don't get it very often. Coffee upsets moh ulcers so we drink mostly decaf Folgers.

And I like either that very first cup or the stuff that's been burning aeway for hours.

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Posted by edblysard on Monday, January 4, 2016 5:21 PM

Kirkland's (Costco) Dark Colombian Roast, fine ground, black.

Smooth, rich and full bodied.

Like Norm, no coffee, no workee...or much of anthing else for that matter.

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Posted by mudchicken on Monday, January 4, 2016 6:20 PM

Ick!

Mookie
 
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Not a coffee drinker (quit that in college ages ago)

Diet Dr. Pepper (55 gallon IV-drip)

When it gets rough, the chemicals change to Diet Mountain Dew

 

 

...follow the trail of 2-liter bottles

 

 

 

Psst - Sir Chicken - both contain aspertame - which could raise havoc w/your throat or esophagus - have you tried diet pepsi or diet coke w/splenda? First hand experience and big dr bill!

 

 

Splenda and chicken don't agree.....but...must...have..caffeine!!!!! drinking lotsa water these days to be hydrated, but it thins out the caffeine which means this critter won't be stirring much ZzzZzzZzz or brain functional

Will NEVER get iced tea at Starbucks ever gain. Tastes like coffee washwater.

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Posted by Mookie on Monday, January 4, 2016 6:30 PM

Euclid

 

 
Mookie

Ahem...Euclid - you gave a good report on coffee, but never did say what you prefer to drink.  Kisses

If a restaurant has coffee that tends on the mild side - I will drink coffee.  But at home - it is only really cold tap water (we have some of the best tasting water in most of the US) and 1-2% milk!  Lots of milk!  Does a body good!  (yes, I do have good bones and teeth, thank you for asking!)

 

 

 

 

Mookie,
I drink that Folgers Black Silk that I mentioned.  It is the best I can find in the grocery store.  I also think it critical to use the pause-and-brew feature to extract the first cup as soon as it is produced.
Any coffee is better when tapped off early in the brew cycle.   That means that it is early in the extraction process.  The extraction process gradually wears down the coffee to the dregs.  So it pays to get it early.  I like milk too. 

 

Thank you!  Reading thru the answers, they brought back to mind that when I worked in a restaurant, they told us that even though you needed the coffee right now, you couldn't take the pot until the Bunn was done dribbling.  The thinking was that the first part was strong and the last part wasn't, so you needed to let the two combine to get the right mix.  Their coffee always tasted like ca-ca to me, even combined.  But that was the thinking!  

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Posted by Mookie on Monday, January 4, 2016 6:36 PM

Sir C - poor chicken.  Maybe water w/caffeine in it?  I think they make it or did at one time.  Wonder if I could have that piped in from Lincoln Water System?  Perfect!

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Posted by Lake on Monday, January 4, 2016 6:38 PM

zugmann
  My choice of brew?  Rogers Company  San Francisco Bay Rainforest blend. 

Zug, Yes, Yes, and Yes. This one of the best coffees, the wife and I have found. Any of the Rogers Company coffees are very good. Different taste from each. All good though.

 

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