blue streak 1Tree you probably have dry hydrants ?
Pretty much anything north of the Mason-Dixon line will be hydrants with the valve at the base. An extended cold spell can drive the frost deep enough to reach some water mains.
Another important feature of "northern" fire hydrants is that once the valve is closed, a drain at the base (as in way underground, too) opens to drain the barrel of the hydrant. One of the things we do when shutting down a hydrant is ensure that it is, indeed draining.
I just Googled "street scene" for several southern tier cities - Atlanta, Miami, Houston, even Phoenix. All had "northern" style hydrants, at least in the images I found. Wet barrel hydrants seem to be chiefly a southern California thing - but that's why you always see that geyser in movies when a hydrant is hit by a car or truck...
Of course, the advantage of the "northern" style is that if a hydrant is knocked over, you don't get that geyser. About the only disadvantage is that one valve charges all of the butts, but we have ways of dealing with that, too.
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BaltACDBigger question - what kind of fire hydrant can you knock over and then set back up by hand - without water spraying all over the place?
Up here in 'cold country' the mains are below the frost line and so are the shutoff valves. Hydrants can be broken off without water flowing.
Norm
BaltACD Bigger question - what kind of fire hydrant can you knock over and then set back up by hand - without water spraying all over the place?
BaltACD tree68 Hey, Randy - you'll appreciate this one... url http://www.statter911.com/2016/01/28/caught-on-video-watch-what-trucker-does-after-taking-out-fire-hydrant/ Bigger question - what kind of fire hydrant can you knock over and then set back up by hand - without water spraying all over the place?
tree68 Hey, Randy - you'll appreciate this one... url http://www.statter911.com/2016/01/28/caught-on-video-watch-what-trucker-does-after-taking-out-fire-hydrant/
Hey, Randy - you'll appreciate this one...
url http://www.statter911.com/2016/01/28/caught-on-video-watch-what-trucker-does-after-taking-out-fire-hydrant/
Bigger question - what kind of fire hydrant can you knock over and then set back up by hand - without water spraying all over the place?
Looked good as new to me.
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Larry,
A couple of my friends on an aviation forum are drivers who haul very heavy loads. I had to post that link for them to see.
What is the difference between a Swift driver and a toilet?
A toilet can back up.
guy wasn't too "swift"
Ns eastbound when I left work.Chores to do.
stay safe
Joe
Deshler Ohio-crossroads of the B&O Matt eats your fries.YUM! Clinton st viaduct undefeated against too tall trucks!!!(voted to be called the "Clinton St. can opener").
Lake effect to the south this morning - a few schools closed. We got maybe a quarter of an inch - and that's gone from my driveway. It's back down near +32F again, but that's not an issue - better than -32F....
Thought I had a night off, but I've got two places I could be. So I'll go to the demo of digital radio, rather than bailing out of a window...
Flurries here in Nw Ohio.Ns has empties uptown to pick up.Chores to do.Matt has confirmation class tonight too.
Getting a little nuts around here. Was about 1000 ft away from a ballast regulator vs. car incident this afternoon, power blackouts in the office tonight, crazy clients asking wild questions and making scary assumptions all day.
Thins I'm-a going home and locking the doors. It's not even a full moon!
cooling down here in NW Ohio.Ns was clear when I left work.Chores to do.
Decent weather, decent day (from my Facebook post):
Today the temperature was hovering right around 40, and the rain held off. Light jacket and a hoodie were all that was necessary. As usual, the walk was from home to the post office, with plenty of time along the railroad tracks. Before I even got to the tracks, an eastbound stack train went across Elizabeth Street. Before the gates could go up, a westbound stacker went through. This is Monday--should be a slow day on the railroad, but certain trains run pretty heavy every day of the week.
When I got to the corner of Parkside, I could look down the tracks to the east, where the signal for Track 1 was flashing-red-over-solid-red. The significance here is that this is a control-point signal--two solid reds means "stop and stay". A flashing red gives a following train permission to proceed at restricted speed without stopping ("Restricted speed" has a definition that makes this a safe option). But a flashing red is something the dispatcher has to set up...it suggests that something might be following fairly closely and he wants to keep things moving.
As time went by and I walked east along Parkside, the signal went through its entire regular rutine of changes--yellow, flashing yellow, and green. Guess the next train wasn't that close, after all. I got to Grace Street and across the tracks to the post office without seeing anything, then back across the tracks and onto Parkside again. I was about even with the signal when I saw the headlight of the next train, an eastbound coal train for the power plant in Sheboygan, Wisconsin. This train used to have a pristine consist of all aluminum EDGX gondolas with blue rotary-coupler ends, but lately the trains have been adulterated with other cars: hopper cars lettered LNTX and IESX (all owned by Alliant Energy, as are the EDGX cars), and a couple of CTRN hoppers that I had to check on when I got home (I have that bunch documented). The train had its usual distributed power unit on the hind end, and was basically coasting when it all got past me.
At Main Street, I climbed the stairs and went up to the station platform. As I climbed the stairs I heard the Voice of Metra announcing that the next scoot would be coming in five or six minutes (they make it intelligible to the layman and give a more precise time). Looking back east, I saw that the signal for Track 1 was flashing red again! I got to the west end of the platform and back to the sidewalk before the scoot actually arrived, and the signal ahead of it was yellow. It changed to flashing yellow as the scoot left, and I hoped that it wouldn't get close to the coal train before it got to Elmhurst, or it would be stuck at 20 mph or so behind it.
I then walked to the drug store before going back home. I was expecting to see the westbound scoot on Track 3 before I left the drug store, but it didn't show. All three signals at Finley Road were now clear for westbound trains (the control-point signals at Grace were all sold red for eastbounds). As I walked away from the tracks, the gates went down. It was scoot time...but this was another stack train going west. Evidently he was on Track 2. I didn't wait around to see if the scoot was also there. And I got home less than an hour after I left, stops at the post office and drug store notwithstanding.
So in about 50 or so minutes with the tracks in sight, I saw five trains. Not bad, but it has been better. I got to thinking about how I would go down to the tracks at Grand Haven when I was younger, and wait for a specific train that I knew was coming. That wait could be well over an hour, and a good 15-20 minutes after I heard it blowing for Fruitport Road in Spring Lake.
Grand Haven's a great place to visit, but I'm glad I live around here!
Carl
Railroader Emeritus (practiced railroading for 46 years--and in 2010 I finally got it right!)
CAACSCOCOM--I don't want to behave improperly, so I just won't behave at all. (SM)
afternoon
No extra work today.Ns had a couple cars to shuffle uptown.Heard CSX coming into town when I got home due to the southerly wind.Chores to do here at home.Matt is working on his book report book.Rain/snow according to the guessers for tonight.
Carl is right, we're supposed to get up to about 40 degrees today, which should melt what's left of the dusting that I never shoveled. Skilling's weather page suggests that our temps should range from slightly above normal to a little bit warmer for the rest of the week.
tree68 CShaveRR ...our older granddaughter was actually put to work on a sewing machine, ... I'm impressed that she's taken the initiative to do so - must be good genes. That used to be part of Home Ec, which every girl was strongly encouraged to take, and which boys occasionally took as well, albeit sometimes on a lark... In this day and age, though, I can imagine that there are those who feel that no child is capable of running such a dangerous machine....
CShaveRR ...our older granddaughter was actually put to work on a sewing machine, ...
I'm impressed that she's taken the initiative to do so - must be good genes. That used to be part of Home Ec, which every girl was strongly encouraged to take, and which boys occasionally took as well, albeit sometimes on a lark...
In this day and age, though, I can imagine that there are those who feel that no child is capable of running such a dangerous machine....
Surprisingly, it's the girls' other grandmother who has gotten them used to sewing machines, as well as their cousins, some of whom are not female. As of right now, they are, with one exception, still in elementary school.There's a chance for a little snow Monday night into Tuesday, but this coming weekend we've been told to anticipate temperatures in the 40s. The eastern blizzard seems to have dumped more snow further north than expected; my friend in Allentown got 31+ inches (their airport).
Murphy SidingIs this at the bottom of a hill? The trucks seem to be going too fast for the conditions.
Invariably, these incidents involve folk who are going too fast for conditions and don't realize it. They're able to keep their vehicle between the ditches, but stopping is another story altogether, as they soon discover.
Do a search for "snowstorm pileups" and you'll have plenty of mayhem to watch.
This is what happens in our lake effect bands - clear roads and sunshine down to snow covered roads and whiteout conditions in the space of a few miles. Gets people every time.
Quite a few years ago (during my USAF time at Chanute AFB) I was eastbound on I-94 - probably not far from the location of well known recent mess - when I started noticing the occasional vehicle in the ditch. Then more, then more. The problem that day was black ice, but there was no real indication that there might be a problem - until you broke traction. I got through just fine, but I did slow down...
It was snowing lightly here when I went to church this morning. I just looked out, and the street in front of the facility seems to be be dry now.
Many years back, I had the driveway cleared before leaving for work about three in the afternoon. When I got back home that night, I took (armstrong) eleven inches out of the driveway before driving in; I irritated a snowplow operator a little bit by parking in the street while preventing my packing the snow in the driveway.
Johnny
Mookie We will have to pause the forum while our northeast posters shovel out. Here lately the forum has paused down to barely moving at all! When the M & M Division (Murphy/Mookie) get dumped on, no one even notices that we are gone shoveling - well, he shovels, I watch. From a distance. A long distance.
We will have to pause the forum while our northeast posters shovel out. Here lately the forum has paused down to barely moving at all! When the M & M Division (Murphy/Mookie) get dumped on, no one even notices that we are gone shoveling - well, he shovels, I watch. From a distance. A long distance.
Thanks to Chris / CopCarSS for my avatar.
BaltACD Don't know the location, but you can hear train sounding for crossings in the background
Don't know the location, but you can hear train sounding for crossings in the background
Yes it was!
http://www.wbaltv.com/weather/timelapse-shows-snow-storm-hitting-maryland/37611012
Spent 1.5 hours yesterday digging a path to the daily driver while the storm was still going (measured 23 inches in the driveway at that time). Storm continued another 10 hours until it quit at Midnight. Spent 4 hours today cleaning around the car and a path for it into the street (snow depth at the street about 40 inches, some of it wind blown); thanks to my neighbor who conquered the last 2 feet to the street with his snow blower. Snow plow finally hit my street about 3:45 PM and then I had to clean up the snow plow ridge.
I am DONE with snow removal for the day!
Balt: Was that in Maryland, this storm?
Tom
JoeKohHis 4x4 and plow have been quite busy doing driveways
Besides, I'm sure the local authorities might frown upon it, even if I did charge reasonable rates...
nice and suuny here in NW Ohio.Csx having signal trouble in Hamler at the I&O Diamond.Met a young man from Pennsylvania today.Gave him the lay of the land.He recently moved to work in Toledo.His home area got 34 inches of snow.Said everything on Ns is backed up.Heard back from my Nephew.His 4x4 and plow have been quite busy doing driveways.Our new great niece is also improving day by day as well.Going to warm up now.
I looked at a VA traffic cam yesterday in the DC area (don't remember which one). The only vehicle visible was a tractor with a plow blade on it, ironically going the wrong way on the four lane roadway. Since traffic cams aren't usually put at quiet intersections, I have to presume the lack of traffic was unusual. The tractor did look like it was moving a fair amount of snow...
Deggesty Balt, that is horrible.
Balt, that is horrible.
Govenor of MD has just closed I-70 & I-270 from I-81 at Hagerstown to the Baltimore and DC Beltways account numerous truck accidents, until 0700 on the 24th.
As to sewing machines, I learned how to run my mother's foot-powered Singer when I was a boy. At times, even it was almost too fast for me. I do not remember how, when, or where I tried an electric one--and decided that it was too fast for me. Sewing by hand for me! The slowest sewing job I ever had was sewing canvas using a sailor's palm.
There may have been electric machines in the Home Ec department when I was in high school--I was never in the room long enough to take a close look at them.
Ricki did not like to sew; she said that if she went near a sewing machine when she was taking Home Ec it broke down.
CShaveRR...our older granddaughter was actually put to work on a sewing machine, ...
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