Forum topics with lots of replies

[Murphy Siding]

     Getting a lot of replies on a thread isn't the goal.  It's the byproduct of any subject that is interesting to several people.  I've found that curiosity breeds a lot of discussion.

[BaltACD]

KBCpresident

And how big is the penalty for hauling ht ewrong cargo in a tank car?

Loss of the load that was contaminated by being loaded in the wrong kind of car and cleaning cost for getting the car back in condition to handle it's intended commodity.  In as much as the cars are controlled by the shipper, the incidence of loading the wrong commodity is low - personnel responsible for load cars know their cars.

[Norm48327]

KBCpresident

Anyone know how to upload photos froma computer onto the forum? Can it be done?

Nope. Images gotta have a URL.

[KBCpresident]

And how big is the penalty for hauling ht ewrong cargo in a tank car?

Off topic: Anyone know how to upload photos froma computer onto the forum? Can it be done?

 

[BaltACD]

Wizlish

KBCpresident

Any thoughts on moving edibles (corn syrup) by tank car? In middle school a girl was disgusted by this but did she have reason to be concenred?

 

No; the cars are in dedicated service.  Not much more reason to be concerned than with food grain in covered hoppers ... right down to 'airslide' transfer connections.

There are or were dedicated cars for vinegar, and wine, with special linings.  Memphis (President's Island) is one of the major producers of that modern nastiness, high fructose corn syrup, and I see a good number of tank cars transporting it. 

I'l grant you that from time to time I wonder how well  they keep the pipe connections clean and reasonably disinfected, both on the car and at the terminals. Or how often the car is periodically cleaned out and sterilized.  This is probably something akin to Bismarck's politics and sausages.  I would suspect there's less temptation to do a 'load of convenience' on a food-grade tank car than on, say, a covered hopper that's been placarded as having a food-only lining ... but here too, I suspect ignorance may be bliss.

Tank cars are either owned or long term leased by the shippers of the commodities handled by the cars.  As such, a Corn Syrup car will remain in Corn Syrup service until it is either sold, scrapped or cleaned and designated for another service.

[wanswheel]

Excerpt from All About Tank Cars by Standard Car Construction Co. (1919)

The first tank cars were used to transport comparatively few commodities, principally petroleum and its products. The success which these cars met with in this service has made them the common carrier of liquids. To-day no less than one hundred different liquid commodities are transported in tank cars.

Among the great American industries which have shown phenomenal growth in the last few years is the Standard Car Construction Company. This Company saw the great demand for this type of equipment and applied its energy and resources to the construction of tank cars that would give the most efficient and prolonged service. It is now not only the largest builder of tank cars in the world but it represents the most complete organization in plant and equipment and the most modern methods in engineering and manufacturing practice. Every Standard Tank Car truthfully exemplifies the motto of the Company, “BUILT FOR A PURPOSE NOT FOR A PRICE.”

The success with which Standard Tank Cars have met the vast and pressing responsibilities of the war stands out as a glaring proof of their efficiency and dependability. These tanks are being used in the transportation of enormous quantities of fuel oil for our battleships and destroyers; gasoline for the motor trucks carrying supplies to seaboard; for our airplanes, motor patrols and ambulances abroad; chemicals and acids for our munition plants and food for our soldiers.

When the history of America's colossal industrial accomplishments for democracy comes to be written there can be no doubt that the record of Standard Tank Cars will occupy a leading place.

As the use of the tank car has grown steadily with the growth of our industries, its future employment in the economic development of the country is assured. America will undoubtedly possess one of the largest, if not the largest, merchant marine in the world. We have industries unequaled in inventiveness, organization and equipment. We have natural resources in almost unlimited quantities. We have over one hundred million people possessed with the successful American initiative and energy. With all these incomparable national assets in operation the tank car's possibilities of usefulness are unlimited. We believe it is not a stretch of imagination to say that in the near future many kinds of food and other products, other than industrial commodities, will depend upon tank cars for transportation.

The Standard Car Construction Company commenced activity in April 1916, at which time a suitable location for its large plant was secured at Masury, Trumbull County, Ohio, about one and one-half miles south of Sharon, Pa.

Forty-five acres in a flat-iron shape make up the Company's real estate holdings, with the Erie Railroad on eastern boundary, the New York Central Lines on western boundary, and with Brookfield-Hubbard township line on south—while the two railroads first named converge at the north end of property, by means of which switching connections are made with the Pennsylvania Company and Pittsburgh and Lake Erie Roads at Sharon, Pa.

Starting near the northern end of the property the Standard Car Construction Company has laid sixteen parallel tracks which ramify to all parts of the works, giving ample space for storage of cars and care for inbound and outbound traffic, which is exclusively handled by its own Baldwin locomotive and full yard crew.

[Deggesty]

Politicians do not necessarily talk about laws--nor obey laws; the sausage reference may have been to Upton Sinclair's discussion of sausage making in his novel The Jungle.

[schlimm]

Wizlish

This is probably something akin to Bismarck's politics and sausages.

Just to correct to record. What you said is a common misattribution, starting in the 1930s.  The 'IronChancellor' Otto von Bismarck never made a statement (written or verbal) about sausages and laws.

[Wizlish]

KBCpresident

Any thoughts on moving edibles (corn syrup) by tank car? In middle school a girl was disgusted by this but did she have reason to be concenred?

No; the cars are in dedicated service.  Not much more reason to be concerned than with food grain in covered hoppers ... right down to 'airslide' transfer connections.

There are or were dedicated cars for vinegar, and wine, with special linings.  Memphis (President's Island) is one of the major producers of that modern nastiness, high fructose corn syrup, and I see a good number of tank cars transporting it. 

I'l grant you that from time to time I wonder how well  they keep the pipe connections clean and reasonably disinfected, both on the car and at the terminals. Or how often the car is periodically cleaned out and sterilized.  This is probably something akin to Bismarck's politics and sausages.  I would suspect there's less temptation to do a 'load of convenience' on a food-grade tank car than on, say, a covered hopper that's been placarded as having a food-only lining ... but here too, I suspect ignorance may be bliss.

[KBCpresident]

Any thoughts on moving edibles (corn syrup) by tank car? In middle school a girl was disgusted by this but did she have reason to be concenred?

tree68

I suspect that as long as we play nice, the thread will be allowed to die a normal death, such as they are on a forum like this (ie, they eventually fade down the pages to obscurity).

It's not going to go down yet if I can help it.

[tree68]

zugmann

 

KBCpresident

Also, since we have a de facto nonsense thread here, and no one has locked the thread, can I assume that the moderators are likely okay with it?

The moderators really don't seem to care that much.  And this forum is a small footnote in the Kalmbach Kingdom. 

I suspect that as long as we play nice, the thread will be allowed to die a normal death, such as they are on a forum like this (ie, they eventually fade down the pages to obscurity).

[Anonymous]

Deggesty

Think we can we stretch it out to equal K.P.'s threads?

 

I bet we can Johnny.......

 

[zugmann]

KBCpresident

Also, since we have a de facto nonsense thread here, and no one has locked the thread, can I assume that the moderators are likely okay with it?

 

The moderators really don't seem to care that much.  And this forum is a small footnote in the Kalmbach Kingdom. 

[BaltACD]

What prolonged conversation among 'friends' doesn't wander from the starting idea.

[Deggesty]

KBCpresident

Also, since we have a de facto nonsense thread here, and no one has locked the thread, can I assume that the moderators are likely okay with it?

 

I have the impression that since the majority of replies on the topic of wandering all over the place indicate that the wandering is okay the moderators are not disturbed. I do enjoy the thread as it is.

[wanswheel]

Homer & Jethro got the duck covered.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-j8sy9fwjo

[KBCpresident]

Also, since we have a de facto nonsense thread here, and no one has locked the thread, can I assume that the moderators are likely okay with it?

[KBCpresident]

Murray

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dK2UZ3YTLIY

 

 

Something interesting about this:

The turtle sees the firecracker, hung by a monkey in a tree. He hides, and the monkey and tree are both destroyed. Do you smell symbolism?

[KBCpresident]

Something interesting about this:

The turtle sees the firecracker, hung by a monkey in a tree. He hides, and the monkey and tree are both destroyed. Do you smell symbolism?

[Anonymous]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vy2QvZUiY0Y

 

[Anonymous]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dK2UZ3YTLIY

 

[Paul_D_North_Jr]

Wizlish

KBCpresident

Anyway, while we have a post about the forum, I've always wondered why it is either "cs.trans.com/..." or "trc.trains.com" why isn't it "www.trains.com?"

Has it escaped your notice that anyone fit to be ruler of the universe (or even protractor) would KNOW the answer to that?  

Reminds me of the "The Bridge of Death" ("What's your favorite color ?") scene from the movie "Monty Python and the Holy Grail" - at about 3:05 of this 3:16 clip, but you really need to watch this whole clip for it to make sense:

[Anonymous]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZhsw_vKrJM

 

[KBCpresident]

I think the duck-and-cover videos proved that the governement itself didn't know what it was talking about. One claimed that if  your hair fell out from radiateion it would grow back exactly as it fell out. That isn't necesarily true.

What do you mena family life was unkown? Did society not care wqhat happened, or were they trying to hide a problem in family structure tha they knew was there...? Were the videos tryign to reinforce a patriarchal structure?

 

[BaltACD]

KBCpresident

BaltACD 

I think it was something analagous to the USSR and it's subsequent break up into the multiple ethnic areas that wanted to rule themselves rather than bow down to Moscow.  As Mom learned that she could have a trade beyond cooking, cleaning and kids - Mom wanted to have more say in her life and how she lived it without bowing down to Dad.

So you're saying that these videos were trying to reinforce the more traditial family structure by presentign their main characters as such?

 

The videos were pure 50's.  In the 50's you had no idea of what the real family life was behind closed doors, everything appeared as Ozzie & Harriett, Leave it to Beaver, Father Knows Best. 

The same with the 'duck & cover' movies that were shown in school for what to do when we got Nuked by the USSR (that we had no idea of all the conflict that was taking place behind the Iron Curtin).

[KBCpresident]

BaltACD

  

I think it was something analagous to the USSR and it's subsequent break up into the multiple ethnic areas that wanted to rule themselves rather than bow down to Moscow.  As Mom learned that she could have a trade beyond cooking, cleaning and kids - Mom wanted to have more say in her life and how she lived it without bowing down to Dad.

 

 

So you're saying that these videos were trying to reinforce the more traditial family structure by presentign their main characters as such?

[BaltACD]

KBCpresident

Ah, Bobby!

Alas, I am at work or I would watch it here and now.

Is it one of those 50s infomercials with the perfect american family, with Little Bobby and his well to do mother and father?

It interests me how the 1950s had so many "perfect American families" Was that just a cultural thing?

I think it was something analagous to the USSR and it's subsequent break up into the multiple ethnic areas that wanted to rule themselves rather than bow down to Moscow.  As Mom learned that she could have a trade beyond cooking, cleaning and kids - Mom wanted to have more say in her life and how she lived it without bowing down to Dad.

[Anonymous]

I have to say I really liked the interior of that Santa Fe Train.........

 

 

[Norm48327]

KBCpresident

Was that just a cultural thing?

Madison Avenue fantasy.

[KBCpresident]

Ah, Bobby!

Alas, I am at work or I would watch it here and now.

Is it one of those 50s infomercials with the perfect american family, with Little Bobby and his well to do mother and father?

It interests me how the 1950s had so many "perfect American families" Was that just a cultural thing?