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Posted by ChuckCobleigh on Sunday, August 16, 2015 11:47 AM

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Time flies, Buddy...those concrete ties between Rochelle and Elburn on Track 1 have been there since 200?, before I retired.

I'm pretty sure what I recalled was not a complete tie replacement, given the number of concrete ties I saw.  MKT Dave's post above comports with my memory.  And I agree that time flies, whether or not we are having fun. I thought there would be plenty of time when I retired.  Boy was I mistaken.  
 
I was inspired to go back onto the Plasser America website and look at some of their tamper videos.  Interesting the variety of machines and the number of apparently railroad-owned machines that they used for the videos.  The machine I saw in use was a Dyna C.A.T. and very interesting to watch.  Another interesting video on the UP that looked like Mojave but probably wasn't had the Unimat tamping machine.  Some of the switch tamping footage is very interesting.
 
As I was composing this, a WB UP manifest went by on track 2 and was doing the warning blasts for quite a while before coming into view at the signal bridge and continued past the diamons until he started blowing for the crossing at First Street.  At the moment, no activity in view, but a back hoe and two tracked lifting machines are in view, plus a couple of smaller pieces of equipment.  The crew may be on lunch break at this time.  Now that an EB BNSF train has cleared, I see workers coming back into view, so at quarter to noon, they must be done with lunch.
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Posted by MKT Dave on Sunday, August 16, 2015 11:02 AM

watching the tie removal as i type, then a horn squawked, everyone stopped, got off the tracks and a couple minutes later a EB coal UP on track #1. 

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Posted by rdamon on Sunday, August 16, 2015 10:30 AM

Lots of work on the close track today .. looks like they are grabbing the ties and taking them away.

 

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Posted by MKT Dave on Sunday, August 16, 2015 8:44 AM

A week after the cam was upgraded last year, stacks of concrete ties were placed along side Track #1, When i got back online a few days later, they were mostly a few were still stacked, and you could see the concrete ties on 1, BUT I can't verifie the ties were already in place then, Wished i'd been able to watch them being replaced If they did a few days later. I watched the cat with the pickers running around and watched it line the ties between the rails. Hence i asked the question, 'why are the ties lined up between the rails. It was really rocking up and down as it went back and forth over the rails of tracks #1 and #2.

And I didn't even notice the people running around at the center. Guess fair is fair.

I can hear a NB on the Cherokee Sub of the UP here in east central Oklahoma, and watch the trains on the Rochelle Cam. Can't hear the SB very well, have to go outside to hear them. I'm about a mile west of the tracks.

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Posted by CShaveRR on Saturday, August 15, 2015 6:58 PM

Time flies, Buddy...those concrete ties between Rochelle and Elburn on Track 1 have been there since 200?, before I retired.

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Posted by ChuckCobleigh on Saturday, August 15, 2015 5:52 PM

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The fact that the ties are there at all suggests that a replacement program is imminent.  I'm pretty sure that it will be on Track 2 (the near track), because Track 1 is concrete ties up to the diamonds.  If you were at the park, you could probably see marks on the ties that are set to be replaced.

I seem to reall that the concrete ties went in about a year ago.  Didn't see the tie work but did get to see a Plasser tamper coming through this side of the diamonds.  Interesting machine to watch move up the track.  Found some videos on the Plasser site of the same type of machine in action.

Good stuff to be seen from time to time on the web cam.

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Posted by Semper Vaporo on Saturday, August 15, 2015 11:47 AM

The work is already in progress out of the scene to the right (East)... or at least the day that the question was asked, I saw a caterpiller tracked digger vehicle (I think it is the vehicle that is presently partialy visible on the other side of the tracks at the right) come into the scene between the park fence and the tracks.  It drove past the signal support structure and up onto the ballast on the west side.  It threaded itself between the signal structure and the post to the west of it quite nicely.  It swung the arm out over the tracks and, with the jaws on the end, gingerly picked up one tie and managed to swivel around without hitting the signal structure and drive back down onto the grass and off screen to the right from whence it came.

At that time there was family of 2 adults and 2 children in the park.  The adults were wandering around and the kids were running up and down the stairs, but none of them paid any attention to the vehicle or what it was doing... like it wasn't even there.  (Must like trains only, with no penchant for small mobile construction equipment!Whistling)

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Posted by CShaveRR on Saturday, August 15, 2015 10:16 AM

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Anyone know why the ties are lined up between the two tracks of the UP?



Semper Vap's comment notwithstanding, because the only reasonable alternative would be to put them outside of the tracks, and that's where a lot of track people, signal people, and crew members alike would encounter them.  It's a safer working environment when you put them there.  Further away from the diamonds one might find them on the outside of the rails.

The fact that the ties are there at all suggests that a replacement program is imminent.  I'm pretty sure that it will be on Track 2 (the near track), because Track 1 is concrete ties up to the diamonds.  If you were at the park, you could probably see marks on the ties that are set to be replaced.

When the time comes, the old ties will be yanked out from the south side, and the new ties will be lifted across by a crane and positioned from the same side (most likely).  Although there's probably room enough to do it from the inside, it might involve less interference with the other track to do it this way.

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Posted by MrLynn on Friday, August 14, 2015 3:38 PM

There's a bunch (looks like five) of MOW guys doing something with the switch on the BNSF track.  Yesterday I saw the local switcher stop and a brakeman get off to open the switch for the siding, and close it on return, so apparently it is not yet remote-controlled.  Must be some problem requiring a big crew in to work on it today.

Lots of rockin' and rollin' as the locos and double-stack cars cross the diamonds on the near UP track.

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Posted by Semper Vaporo on Monday, August 10, 2015 7:48 PM

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Anyone know why the ties are lined up between the two tracks of the UP?

 
Ummm... because somebody would be in trouble if they were lined up ON the tracks!    Cowboy 
 
 

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Posted by MKT Dave on Monday, August 10, 2015 4:41 PM

Anyone know why the ties are lined up between the two tracks of the UP?

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Posted by MKT Dave on Sunday, August 9, 2015 10:02 PM

21:59

Appeared to be one vehicle with the lights on, couldn't tell if it was a patrol or a MOW truck. It left just as a EB BNSF came through.

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Posted by MKT Dave on Sunday, August 9, 2015 9:06 PM

21:05

Pair of blinkey lights, Right side of the diamonds, nothing else i can say, been there for about fifteen minutes.

21:45

still there, someone walking around with a flashlight.

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Posted by ChuckCobleigh on Saturday, August 8, 2015 1:08 AM

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Not sure what was going on tonight, but a westbound BNSF stack crossed the diamonds very slowly about 15 minutes ago and stopped with the engines just beyond the next grade crossing to the west.  They then proceeded to back up a few car lengths, move ahead about the same distance, and then back up all the way past the diamonds to where you can't see things illuminated by their headlight anymore.  Power problems?

Maybe setting out a BO somewhere back, maybe near Main street?  There doesn't appear to be any convenience stores, so I don't think the crew was picking up a Slurpee or a Slim-Jim.Wink

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Posted by blhanel on Friday, August 7, 2015 9:52 PM

Not sure what was going on tonight, but a westbound BNSF stack crossed the diamonds very slowly about 15 minutes ago and stopped with the engines just beyond the next grade crossing to the west.  They then proceeded to back up a few car lengths, move ahead about the same distance, and then back up all the way past the diamonds to where you can't see things illuminated by their headlight anymore.  Power problems?

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Posted by jeffhergert on Friday, August 7, 2015 9:11 PM

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Bunch of guys standing in the woods on the far side of the BNSF tracks.  Can't see what they're doing--maybe something with the ballast?

/Mr Lynn

 

 

I think what they might have done is converted the siding switch there from locally thrown to remotely operated from Ft. Worth.

The reason I think so is that the past two days the switcher has pulled up to the switch, waited five to ten minutes and then proceeded into the siding.  No one was visible getting off the locomotive.   I had never seen that before.   Unfortunately, on neither day did I wait around to see what occurs when they leave the siding.

 

To me, that sounds more like a power switch that can be lined via the radio key pad by the train crew.

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Posted by CatFoodFlambe on Thursday, August 6, 2015 9:41 PM

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I think what they might have done is converted the siding switch there from locally thrown to remotely operated from Ft. Worth.

 

What's the gain from this?  

I noticed that the local crew always left the switch lined for siding while they performed their switching.  I would guess that the lack of inclusion of the switch in the CTC system meant that the DS had to tie up the entire south track over the double-track segment while the local was in the block.   Would it be safe to assume that by being able to "see" and control the switch, the dispatcher regains the ability to use the south track while the crew is working the yard?

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Posted by Dakguy201 on Thursday, August 6, 2015 1:51 PM

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Bunch of guys standing in the woods on the far side of the BNSF tracks.  Can't see what they're doing--maybe something with the ballast?

/Mr Lynn

I think what they might have done is converted the siding switch there from locally thrown to remotely operated from Ft. Worth.

The reason I think so is that the past two days the switcher has pulled up to the switch, waited five to ten minutes and then proceeded into the siding.  No one was visible getting off the locomotive.   I had never seen that before.   Unfortunately, on neither day did I wait around to see what occurs when they leave the siding.

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Posted by ChuckCobleigh on Wednesday, August 5, 2015 8:29 PM

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is there a new Cantilever bridge going up near the west bound signal (UP)?

It would appear that new bridges are going up for both UP directions at the diamonds. Carl had noted some weeks ago that there was a cantilever section on the ground near the new upright that's been visible for a while near the EB signal bridge.  This week, a cantilever section was on the ground going west from the WB signal for a while as lots of folks in orange vests were working in the area.  Now it appears that that bridge section is in place and visible at the upper right corner of the webcam frame.

It's hard to actually tell about the EB signals, but there were a lot of folks down at that end this week as well.

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Posted by denveroutlaws06 on Wednesday, August 5, 2015 8:13 PM

is there a new Cantilever bridge going up near the west bound signal (UP)?

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Posted by Wizlish on Wednesday, August 5, 2015 10:47 AM

SP patched unit as DPU eastbound at 10:45 am, for those interested.

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Posted by gp18 on Tuesday, August 4, 2015 3:01 PM

They are digging something over there, Maybe getting ready to run conduit or trying to find existing conduit. .I just saw a cop outside the fence on the U.P. side. Could be something to do with folks walking up to the diamonds? Or the report of a family putting pennies on the rails?

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Posted by MrLynn on Tuesday, August 4, 2015 2:38 PM

Bunch of guys standing in the woods on the far side of the BNSF tracks.  Can't see what they're doing--maybe something with the ballast?

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Posted by ChuckCobleigh on Tuesday, August 4, 2015 1:01 PM

There's a lot of activity today with quite a few folks in the orange vests.  It looks like the structure that was on the ground earlier at the right of the picture is now over the UP tracks just west of the existing signal bridge.  Also, lot of folks down at the signal bridge west of the diamonds, perhaps to put the cantilever signal bridge Carl spotted a while back up on the support that has been there for quite a while west of the existing signal bridge.

Now a train is blowing for one of the nearby crossings...eastbound BNSF oil train on the near track, which I guessed because there was no movement of the workers on the UP tracks west of the diamonds.  This all at 1:00 PM CDT.

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Posted by Semper Vaporo on Tuesday, August 4, 2015 10:53 AM

The camera got moved!  It is no longer aimed as it was.  I thought at first that the signal bridge support on the right had been removed and that just seemed to have been an awfully fast operation for me to have missed it.

But I have a screen capture of the scene from a year ago and can tell that the camera has been rotated to the left and now I realize that I can still see that the tower is right at the edge of the new scene view.

 

EDIT:  Maybe it has been "Zoomed-in" a bit.  Maybe both.

 

EDIT!  NEVER MIND... my stupid computer changed the zoom level (or maybe my stupid mouse did it... I won't take the blame myself!!!!!

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Posted by ChuckCobleigh on Monday, August 3, 2015 11:25 PM

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I've looked at some signal stands and wondered about acrophobic  signal maintainers...

Or acrobatic, maybe?Wink

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Posted by CatFoodFlambe on Monday, August 3, 2015 10:31 PM

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It appears that the new structures have more safety features for maintainers to climb and work on the structures. 
 

rdamon
It appears that the new structures have more safety features for maintainers to climb and work on the structures. 
 

   Aha!

I've looked at some signal stands and wondered about acrophobic  signal maintainers...

 

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Posted by MrLynn on Monday, August 3, 2015 8:13 PM

Hey!  I just saw a PASSENGER TRAIN!! It was an all-yellow UP eastbound, headed by a couple of modern EMD locomotives (no E units), maybe 10 cars, with a dome car (!) and an observation car (!).

Is this a new development?  Private-livery passenger trains making a comeback?

I know, probably an executive train.  But doggone it, I can wish, can't I?  I'd like to ride that one, for sure.

/Mr Lynn

PS Didn't think to grab a screen shot, darn it!

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Posted by tree68 on Monday, August 3, 2015 12:42 PM

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It appears that the new structures have more safety features for maintainers to climb and work on the structures. 

Agreed.  I would also think that most of these old structures are pretty close to the end of their service lives (if not beyond) and that there could be some question as to their stability, even if they are inspected regularly.

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Posted by rdamon on Monday, August 3, 2015 11:31 AM
It appears that the new structures have more safety features for maintainers to climb and work on the structures. 

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