wanswheel Excerpt from article “Vanderbilt,” Chicago Tribune, October 9, 1882, page 8 http://archives.chicagotribune.com/1882/10/09/ “Do your limited express trains pay or do you run them for the accommodation of the public?” “Accommodation of the public! Nonsense, and they do not pay either. We have tried again and again to get the different roads to give them up; but they will run them, and, of course, as long as they run them, we must do the same.” Chicago Tribune obituary of the reporter who asked the question http://archives.chicagotribune.com/1926/03/20/page/9/article/john-d-sherman-newspaper-man-dies-here-at-67
Interesting. In the article I cited, it explains that the Tribune editor altered the original "public be damned" comment (as the reporter Sherman heard and wrote copy) to a sanitized "...public! Nonsense." Other Chicago newspapers published reporter Sherman's original text verbatim.
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mudchicken Carefull there Mooks.The Zugster is evolving from ground monkey (switchemthrowus Terrasapiens) into yard hog (Canus Throttlus - Yardus). Pretty soon he'll be attracted to the locomotive cab mirror and similar such things.
Carefull there Mooks.The Zugster is evolving from ground monkey (switchemthrowus Terrasapiens) into yard hog (Canus Throttlus - Yardus). Pretty soon he'll be attracted to the locomotive cab mirror and similar such things.
Hah. They are trying to make me a road hog (hotellus-maximus stayus). Just plotting out my best way to take advantage of this ptc stuff coming. Has to be a way to make a career with it. This running study ain't me. Too much sitting.
It's been fun. But it isn't much fun anymore. Signing off for now.
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Hotellus-maximus Stayus - don't forget to engage the Trip Optimizer when operating a CSX train...reportedly saves fuel.
Never too old to have a happy childhood!
And they told me my 2 years of Latin would never be used! Ha! I understood all your "secret railroad terms"....
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Mookie And they told me my 2 years of Latin would never be used! Ha! I understood all your "secret railroad terms"....
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Maybe it is not hate but complete indifference? CSX appears to be just a plain vanilla type corporation. All the other class 1s have something that tweaks our interest. NS - 611, rebuilt diesels and their operation philosophy. BNSF the southern and northern transcons among other items. Friends of BNSF. UP and its steam program. CN and its intent to squeeze out every dime. CP - Hunter. KCS their ability to out think the other class 1s.
blue streak 1 plain vanilla type corporation
plain vanilla type corporation
Right. It takes years to accept CSX as a legitimate name for a railroad.
Most of the vitriol I've seen directed toward CSX doesn't hold a candle to that directed toward UP/the Yellow Peril/the Borg back when they were looking to license use of their trademark colors and lettering.
Methinks that most such feelings are often derived either from the fact that a given railroad "ate up" someone's favorite railroad, or represents a longtime rival (a la NYC/PRR).
Of course, we can't discount instances where someone was wronged by a given railroad, either actually (as in an employee or customer) or within the imagination of the hater (prevented from going on the property for that "special picture."
Larry Resident Microferroequinologist (at least at my house) Everyone goes home; Safety begins with you My Opinion. Standard Disclaimers Apply. No Expiration Date Come ride the rails with me! There's one thing about humility - the moment you think you've got it, you've lost it...
I remember riding Amtrack out of Chicago #50 and talking with the crew enroute to Cincinnati and they were talking about the NatziSouthern Dispatchers so I am not so sure that CSX was the only road distained.
Murphy SidingThe only latin I ever came in contact with was in the Roadrunner cartoons, and I understood what they were saying!
Like the undubbed Swedish in the Mel Brooks parody 'Die Duva'?
blue streak 1 Maybe it is not hate but complete indifference? CSX appears to be just a plain vanilla type corporation. All the other class 1s have something that tweaks our interest.
Maybe it is not hate but complete indifference? CSX appears to be just a plain vanilla type corporation. All the other class 1s have something that tweaks our interest.
Streak, I don't think we'd have been so picky, oh, 45 years ago, about Penn Central time, when a plain-vanilla railroad that kept its nose clean and made a 10-percent return would have looked pretty good.
And of course CSX has plenty of history, beginning with our first national road, the good old B&O. "George Washington's Railroad" was no slouch, either. Or the great passenger roads, Seaboard and Coast Line, that probably could have gotten along without Amtrak.
Furthermore, CSX is still bargain-priced for someone with a dollar to invest in railroads.
Lots to like about CSX. In addition: I live a long way from their tracks now, but I'll bet their trains would draw me -- a dumb old railfan -- to trackside as quickly as those I see up here.
Electroliner 1935 I remember riding Amtrack out of Chicago #50 and talking with the crew enroute to Cincinnati and they were talking about the NatziSouthern Dispatchers so I am not so sure that CSX was the only road distained.
Johnny
Murphy Siding Mookie And they told me my 2 years of Latin would never be used! Ha! I understood all your "secret railroad terms".... Well La-De-Da. The only latin I ever came in contact with was in the Roadrunner cartoons, and I understood what they were saying!
Well La-De-Da. The only latin I ever came in contact with was in the Roadrunner cartoons, and I understood what they were saying!
Mookie Murphy Siding Mookie And they told me my 2 years of Latin would never be used! Ha! I understood all your "secret railroad terms".... Well La-De-Da. The only latin I ever came in contact with was in the Roadrunner cartoons, and I understood what they were saying! Meep Meep is not Latin...
Meep Meep is not Latin...
Murphy Siding Mookie Murphy Siding Mookie And they told me my 2 years of Latin would never be used! Ha! I understood all your "secret railroad terms".... Well La-De-Da. The only latin I ever came in contact with was in the Roadrunner cartoons, and I understood what they were saying! Meep Meep is not Latin... {Canus Desertus Stupidus} Need I say more?
{Canus Desertus Stupidus} Need I say more?
Catholic School for twelve years, and four years of Latin...I'm still numb from having that pounded into me. The one phrase that is sticking with me is:
"...Laborantem agricolam portabant risum puella in agrum..."
{...The farmer carried the laughing girl into the field..}
and a penchant to still follow Mass in Latin? Trying to translate Norris' Lating phraseology will drive one to drink.
" and Murphy Siding translates as " Lamberti Bos pigmentarii railroad fanaticus." :-)
samfp1943 Murphy Siding Mookie Murphy Siding Mookie And they told me my 2 years of Latin would never be used! Ha! I understood all your "secret railroad terms".... Well La-De-Da. The only latin I ever came in contact with was in the Roadrunner cartoons, and I understood what they were saying! Meep Meep is not Latin... {Canus Desertus Stupidus} Need I say more? Catholic School for twelve years, and four years of Latin...I'm still numb from having that pounded into me. The one phrase that is sticking with me is: "...Laborantem agricolam portabant risum puella in agrum..." {...The farmer carried the laughing girl into the field..} and a penchant to still follow Mass in Latin? Trying to translate Norris' Lating phraseology will drive one to drink. " and Murphy Siding translates as " Lamberti Bos pigmentarii railroad fanaticus." :-)
Equus mortuus verberans!
schlimmEquus mortuus verberans!
But it would be 'equum mortuum' -- the horse is the thing being beaten, not the thing doing the beating...
... and 'risum' is 'laughter', isn't it?; 'laughing girl' would be 'puella ridens' (or something similar)...
What's happening to classical education nowadays? My Latin master would have a conniption! Perhaps we'd better stick to Chuck Jones Linnaean taxonomy!
My Latin teacher would start a lot of classes with "Silentium stultisime piggus" (spelling may be corrupted) but anyone should be able to figure it out.
Wizlish: Yes, that's all well and good, but thoughtful Latin readers want to know which pronounciation you use? Wen-ay, wee-dee, wee-kee, Kickero?
Mookie My Latin teacher would start a lot of classes with "Silentium stultisime piggus" (spelling may be corrupted) but anyone should be able to figure it out.
Deggesty Electroliner 1935 I remember riding Amtrack out of Chicago #50 and talking with the crew enroute to Cincinnati and they were talking about the NatziSouthern Dispatchers so I am not so sure that CSX was the only road distained. I am puzzled by the reference to "NatziSouthern Dispatchers." Are they dispatchers working for the former Southern Railroad? If so, they would be encountered only between Orange and Alexandria--a long way from Chicago. Were these operating crew or on-board service crew?
I am puzzled by the reference to "NatziSouthern Dispatchers." Are they dispatchers working for the former Southern Railroad? If so, they would be encountered only between Orange and Alexandria--a long way from Chicago. Were these operating crew or on-board service crew?
The Cardnial runs over the NS from just south of Chicago Union Station to 80th st.
http://www.amtrak.com/cardinal-hoosier-state-train&mode=perf&overrideDefaultTemplate=OTPPageHorizontalRouteOverview
An "expensive model collector"
Amtrak crews are not limited to service on just one route. If this is a Chicago-based crew, they probably have plenty of opportunity to compare and contrast NS and CSX operating and dispatching practices. There are plenty of stories out there about the indignities that NS employees have been subjected to--I'm hoping that much of that is in the past.
Carl
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n012944 Deggesty Electroliner 1935 I remember riding Amtrack out of Chicago #50 and talking with the crew enroute to Cincinnati and they were talking about the NatziSouthern Dispatchers so I am not so sure that CSX was the only road distained. I am puzzled by the reference to "NatziSouthern Dispatchers." Are they dispatchers working for the former Southern Railroad? If so, they would be encountered only between Orange and Alexandria--a long way from Chicago. Were these operating crew or on-board service crew? The Cardnial runs over the NS from just south of Chicago Union Station to 80th st. http://www.amtrak.com/cardinal-hoosier-state-train&mode=perf&overrideDefaultTemplate=OTPPageHorizontalRouteOverview
NKP guy Wizlish: Yes, that's all well and good, but thoughtful Latin readers want to know which pronounciation you use? Wen-ay, wee-dee, wee-kee, Kickero?
I cheat a bit -- I pronounce the Latin "v" about halfway between the English 'v' and 'w' sounds, and the general sound when I say it is closest to 'way-nee' for the first syllable. I have trouble not 'going ecclesiastical' and saying 'wee-chee' on the last of the three.
And yes, both Cs in Cicero are hard (in classical if not ecclesiastical Latin pronunciation), but I don't pronounce the 'i' quite like theone in English 'kick'.
Wizlish schlimm Equus mortuus verberans! But it would be 'equum mortuum' -- the horse is the thing being beaten, not the thing doing the beating... ... and 'risum' is 'laughter', isn't it?; 'laughing girl' would be 'puella ridens' (or something similar)... What's happening to classical education nowadays? My Latin master would have a conniption! Perhaps we'd better stick to Chuck Jones Linnaean taxonomy!
schlimm Equus mortuus verberans!
I stand corrected, but you might try getting a funny bone transplant.
WizlishI pronounce the Latin "v" about halfway between the English 'v' and 'w' sounds, and the general sound when I say it is closest to 'way-nee' for the first syllable.
Having taken Latin in HS, I remember that. I'll have to dig out the Latin-English dictionary for Mook's phrase, though...
Reminds me of the "g" in Samoan - which is pronounced as "ng," but not as hard as in English. The prime example is the capital of American Samoa, Pago Pago, which the uninitiated usually say as "Paygo Paygo" or pronouncing the first syllables as in hunger pangs. In reality, it's "Pahn go Pahn go, with the g kinda held on the back of your tongue. Hard to describe...
The current CSX color scheme is very similar to the B&O and C&O scheme used during the 1960's and in the 1970's until the Chessie System merger.
That should count as a Heritage scheme.
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A little of speculation. It will be interesting to see what we hear if Pershing Square makes a run at CSX similar to what it did with Canadian Pacific. CSX might not get E. Hunter Harrison but it will still be a lot better than what The Children's Fund had in mind for CSX.
Do those who hate CSX have a big brother they look up to?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4zYlOU7Fpk
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