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Penn Central heritage #1073 SD70ACe
Posted by Lyon_Wonder on Monday, June 25, 2012 3:20 PM

Penn Central heritage SD70ACe #1073 has been completed at Muncie.  It's odd that #1073 was completed before IT #1072.  But I guess it's because PC's paint is much simpler than the other heritage schemes.

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Posted by henry6 on Monday, June 25, 2012 3:31 PM

I'm sorry.  It is a good paint job, a good rendition.  But it is the second "yawner" of the bunch, the first being the Conrail blue scheme which is still in use on  the CSAO lines.  And just twist the white paint a little and you can make it NS!.

 

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Posted by Ulrich on Monday, June 25, 2012 4:09 PM

I like it! I've always like the Penn Central...the simple logo and the paint scheme are attractive. Some old shippers who had big problems with the PC back in the day might have a heart attack if they see this unit..

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Posted by eolafan on Monday, June 25, 2012 4:30 PM

I guess NS needed someplace to use up their excess black and white paint supplies? 

YUK!

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Posted by DwightBranch on Monday, June 25, 2012 5:50 PM

I like it, but I became a railfan in the mid seventies and I like anything that reminds me of that time (except the blue Rock Island scheme).

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Posted by oltmannd on Wednesday, June 27, 2012 1:08 PM

The PC scheme actually looks pretty good on that locomotive.  The chunks of lettering fit the chunky carbody.  That white sill stripe helps, too!

Too bad that thinking of PC doesn't conjure up many proud thoughts about railroading.

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Posted by henry6 on Wednesday, June 27, 2012 1:24 PM

oltmannd

The PC scheme actually looks pretty good on that locomotive.  The chunks of lettering fit the chunky carbody.  That white sill stripe helps, too!

Too bad that thinking of PC doesn't conjure up many proud thoughts about railroading.

You can say that about the managment, the stockbrokers, the invstment bankers, the CPA's, the real estate moguls who wanted the property for reasons other than running a railroad.  You cannot say that about the blokes out on the railroad trying to make it work!

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Posted by adrianspeeder on Wednesday, June 27, 2012 5:06 PM

I actually like it.  Not quite a colorful locomotive for a not quite colorful time.

 

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Posted by Firelock76 on Wednesday, June 27, 2012 5:49 PM

Yeah, that's Penn Central all right.  That paint scheme on an SD-70 makes it look like doom itself.

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Posted by oltmannd on Thursday, June 28, 2012 11:34 AM

henry6

 

 oltmannd:

 

The PC scheme actually looks pretty good on that locomotive.  The chunks of lettering fit the chunky carbody.  That white sill stripe helps, too!

Too bad that thinking of PC doesn't conjure up many proud thoughts about railroading.

 

 

You can say that about the managment, the stockbrokers, the invstment bankers, the CPA's, the real estate moguls who wanted the property for reasons other than running a railroad.  You cannot say that about the blokes out on the railroad trying to make it work!

When I started at Conrail in 1978, the PC guys were a pretty beaten down bunch.  Nobody was sorry to see PC go.  Lots of the same people were sad to see Conrail go in 1998/1999.

The only PC guys who weren't beaten down with the folks at Juniata and Holidaysburg, but they hadn't really figured out the PRR was gone, yet!  

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Posted by jclass on Sunday, July 1, 2012 12:02 AM

Is the color black?  Shouldn't it be Brunswick Green?

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Posted by henry6 on Sunday, July 1, 2012 8:58 AM

PC abandoned all colors of PRR and NYC and went to black.  Then the books went to red.

 

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Posted by Lyon_Wonder on Sunday, July 1, 2012 4:27 PM

henry6

PC abandoned all colors of PRR and NYC and went to black.  Then the books went to red.

I do like the jade green paint scheme PC applied to their boxcars with the billboard lettering though.  Makes me wish CR kept the jade green for their rolling stock instead of switching to oxide brown  Of course green (especially BN cascade green) is my favorite color:)

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Posted by CSSHEGEWISCH on Monday, July 2, 2012 7:14 AM

I remember seeing jade green on ex-NYC rolling stock and on NYC/PC and IHB cabooses.  It faded pretty badly and touch-ups around the reporting marks and other data were easy to spot.

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Posted by henry6 on Monday, July 2, 2012 7:56 AM

Yeah, I remember the NYC Pacemaker green...but was used only on freight cars and some cabooses as I remember, never on locomotives, thus ineligible for any heritgage tribute.  Unless of course railroads bring back box cars and cabeese.

 

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Posted by Readingfan2124 on Tuesday, July 10, 2012 11:53 AM

Is that why some units had a bloody PC herald?

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Posted by DAVID CAHILL on Friday, January 15, 2016 11:00 PM

To each his own, I like the look. If only they (NS) would have all the locos in the Cresson helper pool painted in the same scheme. That would be cool.

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Posted by mudchicken on Tuesday, January 19, 2016 10:23 AM

Only if the pilots are all bent up and the units spend as much time on the ground as they do on the rails. (and NS isn't about to tolerate that)

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Posted by caldreamer on Tuesday, January 19, 2016 11:37 AM

The problem with the Penn Central was the management in Philazdelphia.  the guys in the field were great.  If they had good management they might still be around.

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Posted by tree68 on Tuesday, January 19, 2016 12:32 PM

henry6
...but was used only on freight cars and some cabooses as I remember, never on locomotives,...

Seems like I recall seeing a story in the not too distant past about one or two F units that were painted jade - perhaps one is being restored to that color?.  That was it, though.

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Posted by BaltACD on Tuesday, January 19, 2016 1:30 PM

 

tree68
henry6

Seems like I recall seeing a story in the not too distant past about one or two F units that were painted jade - perhaps one is being restored to that color?.  That was it, though.

And to my mind it looked UGLY!

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Posted by SD70M-2Dude on Tuesday, January 19, 2016 3:11 PM

tree68

 

 
henry6
...but was used only on freight cars and some cabooses as I remember, never on locomotives,...

 

Seems like I recall seeing a story in the not too distant past about one or two F units that were painted jade - perhaps one is being restored to that color?.  That was it, though.

 

 

NYC apparently painted several E units into jade green, E8A 4083 was recently restored to that colour by the United Railroad Historical Society.  Here's a photo:

http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=499971&nseq=5

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Posted by CatFoodFlambe on Tuesday, January 19, 2016 7:31 PM

PC was doomed before it started. A BOD of Hill, Pearlman, Crane, Harriman, and Huntington could not have saved either the PRR and NYC in the 1968 regulatory climate. The upper management buzzards just started picking at the carcass before it was officially dead. It was like taking the two kids picked last in gym class and expecting them to beat an NBA all-star team.

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Posted by Wizlish on Wednesday, January 20, 2016 10:33 AM

Oddly enough, the P&LE had some "green" passenger units -- but they were not cab units (and this was 'Pacemaker green' not that peculiar jade color).  They ran with NYC F7s ... which, to my knowledge, were never considered for either 'green'.

In my opinion, the jade would have looked amazing if given lightning stripes.  As it was, the effect was just a 'dip job', and not a particularly fetching one, especially as the consists behind a 'jade' locomotive would remain the contemporary dog's-breakfast of undermaintained stuff, and if ever there was a color that showed dirt and crap, jade would be high on the list (as was that 'pea green' incarnation on other PC stock...)

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Posted by CSSHEGEWISCH on Wednesday, January 20, 2016 11:58 AM

IHB had some switchers that were painted in jade green with a red lightning stripe and white lettering and trim.

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Posted by Wizlish on Wednesday, January 20, 2016 12:05 PM

CSSHEGEWISCH
IHB had some switchers that were painted in jade green with a red lightning stripe and white lettering and trim.

And to tie the discussion even further together - they used the Pacemaker green originally.  Compare these two:

Someone can probably find a better, unweathered picture of the latter green, but the idea is there...

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