CSSHEGEWISCHIHB had some switchers that were painted in jade green with a red lightning stripe and white lettering and trim.
And to tie the discussion even further together - they used the Pacemaker green originally. Compare these two:
Someone can probably find a better, unweathered picture of the latter green, but the idea is there...
IHB had some switchers that were painted in jade green with a red lightning stripe and white lettering and trim.
Oddly enough, the P&LE had some "green" passenger units -- but they were not cab units (and this was 'Pacemaker green' not that peculiar jade color). They ran with NYC F7s ... which, to my knowledge, were never considered for either 'green'.
In my opinion, the jade would have looked amazing if given lightning stripes. As it was, the effect was just a 'dip job', and not a particularly fetching one, especially as the consists behind a 'jade' locomotive would remain the contemporary dog's-breakfast of undermaintained stuff, and if ever there was a color that showed dirt and crap, jade would be high on the list (as was that 'pea green' incarnation on other PC stock...)
PC was doomed before it started. A BOD of Hill, Pearlman, Crane, Harriman, and Huntington could not have saved either the PRR and NYC in the 1968 regulatory climate. The upper management buzzards just started picking at the carcass before it was officially dead. It was like taking the two kids picked last in gym class and expecting them to beat an NBA all-star team.
tree68 henry6 ...but was used only on freight cars and some cabooses as I remember, never on locomotives,... Seems like I recall seeing a story in the not too distant past about one or two F units that were painted jade - perhaps one is being restored to that color?. That was it, though.
henry6 ...but was used only on freight cars and some cabooses as I remember, never on locomotives,...
Seems like I recall seeing a story in the not too distant past about one or two F units that were painted jade - perhaps one is being restored to that color?. That was it, though.
NYC apparently painted several E units into jade green, E8A 4083 was recently restored to that colour by the United Railroad Historical Society. Here's a photo:
http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=499971&nseq=5
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tree68 henry6 Seems like I recall seeing a story in the not too distant past about one or two F units that were painted jade - perhaps one is being restored to that color?. That was it, though.
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And to my mind it looked UGLY!
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henry6...but was used only on freight cars and some cabooses as I remember, never on locomotives,...
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The problem with the Penn Central was the management in Philazdelphia. the guys in the field were great. If they had good management they might still be around.
Only if the pilots are all bent up and the units spend as much time on the ground as they do on the rails. (and NS isn't about to tolerate that)
To each his own, I like the look. If only they (NS) would have all the locos in the Cresson helper pool painted in the same scheme. That would be cool.
Is that why some units had a bloody PC herald?
Yeah, I remember the NYC Pacemaker green...but was used only on freight cars and some cabooses as I remember, never on locomotives, thus ineligible for any heritgage tribute. Unless of course railroads bring back box cars and cabeese.
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I remember seeing jade green on ex-NYC rolling stock and on NYC/PC and IHB cabooses. It faded pretty badly and touch-ups around the reporting marks and other data were easy to spot.
henry6 PC abandoned all colors of PRR and NYC and went to black. Then the books went to red.
PC abandoned all colors of PRR and NYC and went to black. Then the books went to red.
I do like the jade green paint scheme PC applied to their boxcars with the billboard lettering though. Makes me wish CR kept the jade green for their rolling stock instead of switching to oxide brown Of course green (especially BN cascade green) is my favorite color:)
Is the color black? Shouldn't it be Brunswick Green?
henry6 oltmannd: The PC scheme actually looks pretty good on that locomotive. The chunks of lettering fit the chunky carbody. That white sill stripe helps, too! Too bad that thinking of PC doesn't conjure up many proud thoughts about railroading. You can say that about the managment, the stockbrokers, the invstment bankers, the CPA's, the real estate moguls who wanted the property for reasons other than running a railroad. You cannot say that about the blokes out on the railroad trying to make it work!
oltmannd: The PC scheme actually looks pretty good on that locomotive. The chunks of lettering fit the chunky carbody. That white sill stripe helps, too! Too bad that thinking of PC doesn't conjure up many proud thoughts about railroading.
The PC scheme actually looks pretty good on that locomotive. The chunks of lettering fit the chunky carbody. That white sill stripe helps, too!
Too bad that thinking of PC doesn't conjure up many proud thoughts about railroading.
You can say that about the managment, the stockbrokers, the invstment bankers, the CPA's, the real estate moguls who wanted the property for reasons other than running a railroad. You cannot say that about the blokes out on the railroad trying to make it work!
When I started at Conrail in 1978, the PC guys were a pretty beaten down bunch. Nobody was sorry to see PC go. Lots of the same people were sad to see Conrail go in 1998/1999.
The only PC guys who weren't beaten down with the folks at Juniata and Holidaysburg, but they hadn't really figured out the PRR was gone, yet!
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Yeah, that's Penn Central all right. That paint scheme on an SD-70 makes it look like doom itself.
I actually like it. Not quite a colorful locomotive for a not quite colorful time.
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oltmannd The PC scheme actually looks pretty good on that locomotive. The chunks of lettering fit the chunky carbody. That white sill stripe helps, too! Too bad that thinking of PC doesn't conjure up many proud thoughts about railroading.
I like it, but I became a railfan in the mid seventies and I like anything that reminds me of that time (except the blue Rock Island scheme).
I guess NS needed someplace to use up their excess black and white paint supplies?
YUK!
I like it! I've always like the Penn Central...the simple logo and the paint scheme are attractive. Some old shippers who had big problems with the PC back in the day might have a heart attack if they see this unit..
I'm sorry. It is a good paint job, a good rendition. But it is the second "yawner" of the bunch, the first being the Conrail blue scheme which is still in use on the CSAO lines. And just twist the white paint a little and you can make it NS!.
Penn Central heritage SD70ACe #1073 has been completed at Muncie. It's odd that #1073 was completed before IT #1072. But I guess it's because PC's paint is much simpler than the other heritage schemes.
http://railpictures.net/photo/401700
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