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London Ontrio Plant Closing

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Posted by oltmannd on Friday, February 3, 2012 4:42 PM

zugmann

 

 oltmannd:

 

 

So, manufacturing will be in Indiana now?  An easier trip between HQ and the plant....

 

 

 

 

 

For now.  I'm sure in a few years, we'll be reading about their new plant in Mexico or China, or somewhere else.

Maybe, not forever.  You are probably too young to remember when Japan was where the cheap labor was.  Now they are the high-priced place...  The bottom is coming up.  Africa is the last stop  (and the Chinese are investing there...)

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Posted by Ulrich on Friday, February 3, 2012 4:23 PM

I guess this plant closure marks a milestone...after some  150 years , it is the end of locomotive production in Canada... We had MLW which was sold to Bombardier, which subsequently got out of the locomotive business. And prior to that we had Baldwin/Lima/Fairbanks Morris in Kingston which closed in the 1960s. Not all bad news though, our economy continues to grow albeit slowly, and the many small business that start up every year never make the headlines but have been the greatest creator of jobs.

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Posted by zugmann on Friday, February 3, 2012 3:47 PM

Modelcar

 

 

 

I believe that "China movement" is starting to slow, and soon may be turning  around.  The workers are starting to go after higher wages....and others factors may be beginning to rise.

 

There's still a lot of developing countries left on this country to use.  Unless we win that race to the bottom.

  

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Posted by zugmann on Friday, February 3, 2012 3:45 PM

I have a feeling CAT was going to close the plant anyhow.  The 50% ploy was to direct the attention to the union instead,

  

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Posted by Modelcar on Friday, February 3, 2012 3:44 PM

zugmann

 oltmannd:

 

So, manufacturing will be in Indiana now?  An easier trip between HQ and the plant....

 

 

 

 

For now.  I'm sure in a few years, we'll be reading about their new plant in Mexico or China, or somewhere else.

I believe that "China movement" is starting to slow, and soon may be turning  around.  The workers are starting to go after higher wages....and others factors may be beginning to rise.

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Posted by Mr. Railman on Friday, February 3, 2012 3:44 PM

Canadian workers "Guess we should have taken that pay cut"

 

I am at a small shock, but reflecting on t, not at chock anymore!

Maybe with luck EMD will have to rebuild LaGrange...and restore the original location of complete locomotive production!

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Posted by zugmann on Friday, February 3, 2012 3:29 PM

oltmannd

 

So, manufacturing will be in Indiana now?  An easier trip between HQ and the plant....

 

 

 

For now.  I'm sure in a few years, we'll be reading about their new plant in Mexico or China, or somewhere else.

  

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Posted by YoHo1975 on Friday, February 3, 2012 2:14 PM

I have mixed emotions as I have had from the start on this.

 

It's hard to sympathize with Caterpillar, a company known to play hardball with their employees, but it's nice to see production in the US.

In some sense, you could say this is a delayed fall out from GM.

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Posted by oltmannd on Friday, February 3, 2012 1:57 PM

The other shoe finally dropped.

So, manufacturing will be in Indiana now?  An easier trip between HQ and the plant....

Should put EMD in a good position to compete with GE on price.  

 

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Posted by MerrilyWeRollAlong on Friday, February 3, 2012 1:33 PM

No surprise here.  Asking anyone, union or not, to take a 50% pay cut is ridiculous and unreasonable.  It just shows that Catapiller wanted to get out of Canada.  I guess on the plus side, it looks like jobs are coming back to America (sorry Canada).

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London Ontrio Plant Closing
Posted by caldreamer on Friday, February 3, 2012 1:00 PM

Catapiller subsdiary >Progress Rail has announed that it is permently colsing the London Ontario plant.  Here a link to the announcent.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/story/2012/02/03/electro-motive-plant-london-close.html

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