In Phillips, ME, the recreated roundhouse is located N of town at
Phillips, ME 44°49'41.54"N, 70°20'41.41"W SR&RL
The original roundhouse was located in town. A tool I find handy in locating old railroads is at
http://maptech.mytopo.com/onlinemaps/index.cfm
Click on Historical Maps. It only covers the old topo maps for the northeast US.
Northern Maine Junction seems to be the name usually associated with the roundhouse near Hermon.
I live in Michigan, and it is safe to assume that N. Buffalo meant New Buffalo. I am researching some other sites in the state and will follow-up.
Today's updates:
I renamed Hermon to Northern Mainee Jct., (Thank you MidlandMike... And thanks for the URL to the reference tool, I will be looking to it.)
and added the following:
That is 695 in my list now.
Semper Vaporo
Pkgs.
Here are the questions about page 3 of the Trains list of existing roundhouses, starting with the remaining Michigan items:
The roundhouse at Marquette, MI seems to have been demolished sometime before 1998, assumming the one I have found is the one the Trains list is referring to.
The roundhouse at Holland MI is now gone. It was there last year, but it seems another one has bit the dust.
I have wanderd all over Waverly, MI but cannot find a roundhouse. Help, please. (BTW: Lansing MI is just to the east of Waverly and it has a nice coal tower still standing over a mainline southeast of town. See: 42°43'9.24"N, 84°31'13.78" )
The only place my practiced eye (and wishful thinking) can find in Plymouth, MI is at 42°22'54.41"N, 83°27'55.76"W in 2002 and it is just a vague outline of a turntable pit and somewhat of a footprint of some arcs on the ground. The building in the area was obviously not part of a roundhouse. Anyone know if this is the site the Trains list is referring to?
I cannot find a roundhouse in Nevada, MO. Need help with locating it.
I cannot find a roundhouse in Emerson, NE. There might have been a RR that skirted the south edge of town at one time, but all evidence is gone except some curved streets that may have been beside a RR track (and the Ironhorse Bar and Casino, which may or may not be named for some RR theme). Help needed here too.
I find a Falls City NE, but not a Fall City. There are some remnants of a footprint of a roundhouse there, but the buildings are questionable as to whether they were part of the roundhouse or of later construction.
I see only a footprint evidence of a roundhouse in Wymore, NE in the oldest of the historical imagery in Google Earth. No buildings that I can see. Help?
I see a mistake in my list... I have Portsmouth in Massachusetts. Subtract one from MA and add it to NH! My apologies to the people of both Massachusetts and New Hampshire for confusing the two!
I had to use Street View to study the semicircular building in Keene, NH to try to prove to myself that it was at one time a RR building. If I am wrong, the archetech of the shopping center did a nice job of making it look like one!
Well, that takes care of the 3rd page of the Trains pdf file. Page 4 is in process.
Here are the questions about page 4 of the Trains list of existing roundhouses:
I suspect that this is the roundhouse refered to in Chama, New Mexico but I need confirmation: 36°54'10.71"N, 106°34'40.83"W
I cannot find a roundhouse in Troy, New York. Help needed.
I do not find a city by the specific name of E. Binghamton, but I do see a roundhouse remnant to the east of Binghamton, NY. Is that the one?
I see no evidence of there ever being a roundhouse in Linton, ND. Help?
Finally found an existing roundhouse structure in Ashtabula, OH. I have already published the location in the last update here.
I show two roundhouses in Cleveland, OH. Wonder which one the Trains list is for.
I show one roundhouse in Columbus, OH, and the history that magically appeared when I found it says it was built in 1920 for the Hocking Valley and then went to the C&O. The Trains list has two, one for the C&O and the other for the Hocking Valley with dates of 1917, 1930. Is there just one or are there two? If there are two, which one is the one I have listed and where is the other one?
Finally found an existing roundhouse structure in Jackson, OH. Already published in the last update here.
I have two roundhouse locations for Toledo, OH, but neither one was in existance after 2000, so I probably don't have the same ones. Need help here, too.
I have one roundhouse location for Portland, OR but it was torn down prior to 1970. Need help for this one, too.
I cannot find a roundhouse in Lansford, PA. Help?
Not sure what I have found in Port Clinton, PA is a roundhouse... I see a rectangular building with a turntable in front of it. 40°34'53.72"N, 76° 1'36.74"W
The one I found in Bethlehem, PA does not have a building, just a footprint of a roundhouse. it appears it was torn down in 1999.
Well, that takes care of most of the 4th page of the Trains pdf file. Page 5 is about done.
You wrote,
I have wandered all over Waverly, MI but cannot find a roundhouse. Help, please. (BTW: Lansing MI is just to the east of Waverly and it has a nice coal tower still standing over a mainline southeast of town. See: 42°43'9.24"N, 84°31'13.78")
The yard at Holland is known as Waverly Yard, and has been forever; I'm pretty sure that your late roundhouse in Holland is also the one in Waverly.
Carl
Railroader Emeritus (practiced railroading for 46 years--and in 2010 I finally got it right!)
CAACSCOCOM--I don't want to behave improperly, so I just won't behave at all. (SM)
CShaveRR You wrote, The roundhouse at Holland MI is now gone. It was there last year, but it seems another one has bit the dust. I have wandered all over Waverly, MI but cannot find a roundhouse. Help, please. (BTW: Lansing MI is just to the east of Waverly and it has a nice coal tower still standing over a mainline southeast of town. See: 42°43'9.24"N, 84°31'13.78") The yard at Holland is known as Waverly Yard, and has been forever; I'm pretty sure that your late roundhouse in Holland is also the one in Waverly.
Thanks, I'll handle that one like I did Proviso; I labeled it Holland (Waverly), MI
Oh, and I missed a "W" in that lat/lon of the coaling tower; it should be:
42°43'9.24"N, 84°31'13.78"W
Semper Vaporo [snipped] The roundhouse at Marquette, MI seems to have been demolished sometime before 1998, assumming the one I have found is the one the Trains list is referring to. . . .
- Paul North.
I was to Port Clinton, PA last year as it was the destination of a steam excursion during the NRHS Scranton Convention. I remember seeing stored equipment, including at least one large steam engine in the area of your geo-reference. However, our actual destination was Reading & Northern's modern engine shop about a half mile south of the above location. My guess is that Trains' list is refering to the building next to the turntable you cited.
Semper Vaporo [snipped] I cannot find a roundhouse in Troy, New York. Help needed. . . . I cannot find a roundhouse in Lansford, PA. Help? Not sure what I have found in Port Clinton, PA is a roundhouse... I see a rectangular building with a turntable in front of it. 40°34'53.72"N, 76° 1'36.74"W The one I found in Bethlehem, PA does not have a building, just a footprint of a roundhouse. it appears it was torn down in 1999. . . .
The one I found in Bethlehem, PA does not have a building, just a footprint of a roundhouse. it appears it was torn down in 1999. . . .
Lansford, PA: Let me research that one a bit - likely ex-Lehigh & New England RR, but perhaps ex-Greenwood Colliery and/ or Lehigh Coal & Navigation Co. private facilities.
Port Clinton, PA: That's the 'recently' constructed/ installed Reading & Northern's shop.
Bethlehem, PA: Ex-Central RR of New Jersey - Not sure about the year it was razed - perhaps earlier - but 1999 is not far off.
Here are several more in eastern Pennsylvania which I didn't see listed (though I might have missed them - if so, I apologize) - coords. are per ACME Mapper 2.0:
Hellertown/ Bethlehem, PA - ex-Reading RR: N 40.59836 W 75.34240
(South) Easton, PA - ex-Lehigh Valley RR, removed sometime in the last 10 - 15 years: N 40.68173 W 75.22351
Jim Thorpe, PA - ex-CNJ: N 40.87076 W 75.74075
Coalport/ East Jim Thorpe, PA - former CNJ or Lehigh Coal & Navigation Co.: N 40.87573 W 75.75660
Strasburg, PA - RR Museum of Pennsylvania: N 39.98201 W 76.16230
Paul_D_North_Jr Troy, NY: Possibly ex-D&H, vicinity of the Colonie Shops ? Lansford, PA: Let me research that one a bit - likely ex-Lehigh & New England RR, but perhaps ex-Greenwood Colliery and/ or Lehigh Coal & Navigation Co. private facilities. Port Clinton, PA: That's the 'recently' constructed/ installed Reading & Northern's shop. Bethlehem, PA: Ex-Central RR of New Jersey - Not sure about the year it was razed - perhaps earlier - but 1999 is not far off. Here are several more in eastern Pennsylvania which I didn't see listed (though I might have missed them - if so, I apologize) - coords. are per ACME Mapper 2.0: Hellertown/ Bethlehem, PA - ex-Reading RR: N 40.59836 W 75.34240 (South) Easton, PA - ex-Lehigh Valley RR, removed sometime in the last 10 - 15 years: N 40.68173 W 75.22351 Jim Thorpe, PA - ex-CNJ: N 40.87076 W 75.74075 Coalport/ East Jim Thorpe, PA - former CNJ or Lehigh Coal & Navigation Co.: N 40.87573 W 75.75660 Strasburg, PA - RR Museum of Pennsylvania: N 39.98201 W 76.16230 - Paul North.
Troy, NY: Possibly ex-D&H, vicinity of the Colonie Shops ?
If I had any idea where "Colonie Shops" were, I'd check it out. A search using Google Earth provides a bunch of commercial stores in Albany, NY. which are not near enough to Troy for my understanding.
I can believe that Lansford has some coal mines in the area and maybe there was a roundhouse for a mining train operation, but I can't see anything on Google Earth.
I listed the Port Clinton turntable; but that ain't no ROUNDhouse! Okay okay, I know many places refer to an "engine house" as the "roundhouse", but, oh please,... Oh well.
I added the Hellertown/Bethelehem PA roundhouse.
Easton, PA, at the coords you gave, I see nothing on Google Earth... Parking lot today and scrub field as far back as 1992.
I see a turntable at Jim Thorpe, PA, but no building of any sort as far back as 1992. I added the turntable to my list.
Coalport/ East Jim Thorpe, PA..... the coords you gave takes me to a forest clearing North and WEST of Jim Thorpe, PA. No evidence of a roundhouse at all and only the kind-of-round bare spot as evidence of a turntable. Using Google Earth to search for Coalport reveals a small town half the state's width to the west of Jim Thorpe with no RR in the area. I'm confused.
I added the turntable at Strasburg to my list.
Thanks for the additions. If you have the time and inclination, see if you can verify the coords you gave (typo maybe?) or otherwise releive my confusions .
Here are the questions about page 5 (and the last one on page 4) of the Trains list of existing roundhouses:
I have 2 listed for Sioux Falls, SD, but the one at: 43°33'20.90"N, 96°43'32.51"W was torn down prior to 2003. Is there another?
The one I have for Superior, WI was torn down prior to 1998. Is there some other that still exists?
I updated my 2 entries for Fond du Lac to be "N. Fond du Lac", but kept the trailing "c" which belongs there.
I have 2 entries for Cheyenne, WY, one with a turntable and one without. I don't know which one is the one in the Trains list.
I finally found the remains of a roundhouse in Lusk, WY and will add it to the list.
I can find no evidence of a roundhouse in Woodstock, VT. I can't even find evidence of a railroad ROW. The colors of the terrain are such that seeing the black lines that Google Earth puts in for RRs is difficult to see, but I don't see any. And I don't even see the typical indicators of a ROW anywhere in the area, not even paralleling the river in the area. The closest rail line I can find is about 8 miles (as the crow flys) to the east in Hartford. Can anyone shed any light on where a roundhouse would be in Woodstock, VT?
Well, that takes care of the last page of the Trains pdf file.
The list did add several to my list and caused some corrections to be made, but it seems to have several errors of its own. Maybe someone at Kalmbach can take my comments and do some research to correct those things and improve the list for 2011 and on.
The roundhouse in Iowa City was built by the BCR&N. The line went to Elmira, and then on to Clinton. I think by the time the RI had taken over in 1902, the roundhouse was already down to two stalls. Today it's slightly less than two stalls remaining.
Footprint at Joliet, IL. (South of the one from the list)
Abandoned turntable with footprint at Joliet, IL.
CRI&P Roundhouse at Moline, IL.
CB&Q footprint at Rock Island, IL. (very near the CRI&P footprint)
Turntable at East Peoria, IL.
Piece of footprint at Galesburg, IL.
IC Footprint at Clinton, IL.
Turntable at Harvey, IL. (I like this shot.)
Camp DeWoody, AR - abandoned turntable
McCarthy, AK - abandoned turntable (at one time I had it pinpointed. There's a YouTube video of people turning it.)
Aurora, MO - Filled SL&SF turntable pit.
Hannibal, MO - foundation remnants (this is not the same Hannibal from the list.)
Rocklin, CA - Outer wall and overgrown footprint. This one is in the planning for a restoration
Here are more. I know there are duplicates, but I'm afraid if I try to sort through them first I'll never get around to posting them at all. I'll post more later.
Venice, IL
Belleville, IL
Footprint at Roodhouse, IL.
Alton, IL - footprint
Bucklin, KS
Leadville, CO
Brownstown, MI
Hammonton, NJ - operating Armstrong turntable for Haluasa Shoreline RR (tourist.)Hawthorne, NJ - NYS&W commercial
New Egypt, NJ - abandoned one-stall recently razed. Slab remains. Turntable now resides uninstalled on a tender at the Pine Creek Railroad (tourist) at Allaire, NJ.
Colusa, CA foundation for recently razed 4-stall narrow gauge roundhouse abandoned in 1915 (still standing in Street View.)
Moberly, MO - footprint
Brookfield, MO - CB&Q footprint
Geneva,NY - commercial Rhinelander, WI
I was going to respond to each reference you gave, but I probably won't live long enough to do that, so I'll not mention the ones that get added to my list. The "huge list": that will take a while to traverse and checkout... many are just photos of engines and stuff, but have to look at them all to find any good info. Google Earth puts "Harvey, IL" way north of the turntable you have listed. I have the same site listed as East Hazel Crest. Help? The newly restored turntable listed as Pitkin, CO is over 6 miles away from Pitkin as the crow flies (and maybe 10 times that by road). Who restored it... and WHY? Camp DeWoody, AR... Google Earth doesn't like that name! I finally found the same spot on Google Earth as your link to Flash Earth shows, but who the heck put a turntable out in the middle of nowhere? There is absolutely no indication anything was ever there except the single track and the state highway. Where did you find the info that says one was there? McCarthy, AK... wish I could make out WHERE that one is, as it will give me the 1st one in Alaska! Aurora and Hannibal, MO... Nice reference drawings to prove the locations.
Your other two posts I'll get to as I can... THANKS! (Me and my big mouth, "Anybody know of some others?" I have no one to blame but me!... Thanks anyway! )
Here are some photos of the Alpine Tunnel turntable restoration.
Camp DeWoody was the end terminus for the tourist Reader Railroad.
Here's some folks turning the turntable in McCarthy, AK
Ignore the Harvey, IL link, as it's obviously a duplicate. I just liked the shot. I tended to avoid Chicago-area listings, as the cities got confusing. The two I posted from Joliet, however, are different than the one already on the list.
That link I gave you with more listings, I see the U.S part is under construction. Keep checking back, as I know there are many there that have not made it into this thread.
Also, the Flash Earth links are from several years ago, when Flash Earth used Google as well.
Semper Vaporo [both snipped] Paul_D_North_Jr: Troy, NY: Possibly ex-D&H, vicinity of the Colonie Shops ? Lansford, PA: Let me research that one a bit - likely ex-Lehigh & New England RR, but perhaps ex-Greenwood Colliery and/ or Lehigh Coal & Navigation Co. private facilities. (South) Easton, PA - ex-Lehigh Valley RR, removed sometime in the last 10 - 15 years: N 40.68173 W 75.22351 Coalport/ East Jim Thorpe, PA - former CNJ or Lehigh Coal & Navigation Co.: N 40.87573 W 75.75660 If I had any idea where "Colonie Shops" were, I'd check it out. A search using Google Earth provides a bunch of commercial stores in Albany, NY. which are not near enough to Troy for my understanding. I can believe that Lansford has some coal mines in the area and maybe there was a roundhouse for a mining train operation, but I can't see anything on Google Earth. Easton, PA, at the coords you gave, I see nothing on Google Earth... Parking lot today and scrub field as far back as 1992. I see a turntable at Jim Thorpe, PA, but no building of any sort as far back as 1992. I added the turntable to my list. Coalport/ East Jim Thorpe, PA..... the coords you gave takes me to a forest clearing North and WEST of Jim Thorpe, PA. No evidence of a roundhouse at all and only the kind-of-round bare spot as evidence of a turntable. Using Google Earth to search for Coalport reveals a small town half the state's width to the west of Jim Thorpe with no RR in the area. I'm confused. If you have the time and inclination, see if you can verify the coords you gave (typo maybe?) or otherwise releive my confusions .
Paul_D_North_Jr: Troy, NY: Possibly ex-D&H, vicinity of the Colonie Shops ? Lansford, PA: Let me research that one a bit - likely ex-Lehigh & New England RR, but perhaps ex-Greenwood Colliery and/ or Lehigh Coal & Navigation Co. private facilities. (South) Easton, PA - ex-Lehigh Valley RR, removed sometime in the last 10 - 15 years: N 40.68173 W 75.22351 Coalport/ East Jim Thorpe, PA - former CNJ or Lehigh Coal & Navigation Co.: N 40.87573 W 75.75660
If you have the time and inclination, see if you can verify the coords you gave (typo maybe?) or otherwise releive my confusions .
Lansford, PA: Ditto - nothing to be seen today - need to look in some old references.
Easton, PA - Also ditto, but that turntable was documented fairly well before it was removed. Never had a roundhouse - only a rectangular shop building just to the west, which is now offices.
JT - Right, never had a building of any kind as far as I know.
Coalport - that bare spot is it. Local trail/ canal folks have hacked it out of the regrowth vegetation and have done enough research to tie it to the past use. Again, let me find the references, but I've seen it in person on the ground within the last 5 years or so, and yeah, it's an ancient turntable pit - no building that I recall, though.
Here's another one or two that I didn't notice in the previously posted lists - again, my apologies if I overlooked them:
Algoma Central's covered turntable in the Engine House at its Steelton Shops in Sault Ste. Marie, Ontario, at: N 46.52441 W 84.35241 This one is cleverly camouflaged inside a rectangular shop building ! See: http://www.historicplaces.ca/en/rep-reg/place-lieu.aspx?id=7352
Likewise, there was a covered turntable at Norden or so on SP's Donner Summit Route, at about here, I believe (but not real sure): N 39.31652 W 120.35508 See: http://www.railroadforums.com/photos/showphoto.php/photo/61273/title/norden-turntable/cat/505
Also, according to this thread - - there was one (uncovered, I presume) at Emigrant Gap, too:
http://cs.trains.com/TRCCS/forums/p/185457/2028124.aspx (post by twhite on 01-12-2011)
Troy, NY: Yep, D&H's Colonie Shop & Yard - see:
http://wikimapia.org/9480751/Delaware-Hudson-Railway-Colonie-Shops-Yards
See also the aerial photo here (takes a long time to load):
http://www.scribd.com/doc/65574974/D-H-Colonie-Shop
Zwingle: comments on your post of 09-25-2011 12:40 PM
Belleville, IL ??? That one I have listed as Alorton, IL. I don't remember how I came up with that name, but it is between East Saint Louis and Centreville and Belleville is an additional 10 miles SE of the Centreville.
Deerfield, MA... I have that one labled as Greenfield, MA. Which is it supposed to be, anybody know?
Worcestere, MA... All I see is a humongous multi-story parking garage. Help?
The northern of the 2 Escanaba, MI, I had named Wells, but have now renamed it.
I had Grand Forks in ND. I have corrected it to MN and prepended East to the name.
One of your St. Louis MO listing is on the wrong side of the river to be St. Louis. Make it East St. Louis, IL.
Your Rigeley, MS is really in Maryland (MD). Which makes it redundant farther down the list.
Your Ludlow, KY link points at a Covington, KY site which was listed earlier.
I have your North Bergen, NJ listed as Ridgefield Park, NJ.
Like I said before, I don't know if my names for things is right or not, and mostly I don't remember why I named them as I did. Could be because of the nearest city I could find or maybe because someone else put me on to the site and provided the name. If you feel certain one way or the other let me know. I know I have found mistakes in my list by double checking against yours and I see a couple of errors in your post so we can discuss the differences as needed.
THANK YOU for posting what you have! I will work on your next list tomorrow sometime.
I will probably clean up the latest additions and post them here first in case someone is following all this.
Worcester, MA defnitely had a turntable. Possibly two, one for the B&A\NYC and one shared by the B&M and NYNH&H.
You said:
Please reconsider changing it back to the name commonly used by locals. See
http://www.michiganrailroads.com/RRHX/RRHXHome.htm
Look under Turntables or under Roundhouses (Delta County) and you will see it is commonly referred to as Wells. I will also check out their lists for new leads. Keep up the good work.
Here are the most recent updates:
You'll notice a slight change in the format. Normally, when making updates to the data, I search Google Earth and add new roundhouses to the Google Earth "Places" list, and as each is entered, I copy the data to my Excel spreadsheet. I then manually drag the item to the proper alphabetical place in the Places list. Only after I am done for the day do I terminate Google Earth to cause it to update the data in the KMZ file on the disk. I then copy the new entries in the Excel spreadsheet to a posting here (like this one) and then have Excel sort the whole Excel list so it is in proper order.
That has worked fine up until Sunday afternoon. After I had made about 35 or 40 entries, Google Earth suddenly presented a message that apologized for the inconvenience and terminated! In the process it failed to save the KMZ data to disk and I lost all that work.
Since I had not sorted the Excel spreadsheet yet, I knew the unsorted data at the end was what was lost, so all I had to do was to go to each coordinate listed and create a new entry in the Google Earth Places list and manually sort them again. The sorting process is horribly tedious.
I was about done with the re-entry process when... DRAT... IT DID IT AGAIN! And I had to start all over!
Again, I was about done and IT DID IT YET AGAIN! At that point I decided that maybe I have too many entries in my Places file. I thought that if maybe I separated the list into smaller groups it might help, so I split it into "Non-U.S.A." and "U.S.A." sites. I did it to both the Google Earth list and the Excel spreadsheet. That took a long time! And the process of dragging items from one Places folder to another is just as tedious as the manual sorting process that put them in the folder in the first place.
Unfortunately, it didn't help... I died again while making new entries later. Maybe because the folders in the Places files are really still part of one larger file. But I am not about to re-sort them back into one list.
So the Excel file (which is what I post here) has a new column for "Country" and a separate one for "State/Province". I don't know the "State/Province" for most of the Non-U.S.A data so that column will be blank for those, unless someone can provide that info for me. I do know the Canadian/Canadien ones so that I have added (as you can see in the above update).
I finally got all the data entered by making only a couple of new entries at a time and then manually terminate Google Earth to make it save the Places data to the KMZ file before it had a chance to apologize to me again.
GGRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRrrrrrrrrrrrrr!
I apologize for the errors. Some of those links I hadn't checked in nearly five years. I also see I lost my Mystic, SD link. I'll have to find it. Like the McCarthy, AK turntable, this one was hard to find as well.
Speaking of which, I've found the McCarthy turntable, mainly by searching other videos and photo journals, and triangulating. It should be near the center of the screen. If I later find that I'm in error, I'll message you, but i think this is where I determined it to be before (not that I'm ever wrong...)
The Worcestere link might not have been pinpointed, but more than likely the evidence is now gone.
If my labels are different than yours, in some cases this was because they were labeled differently by other sources during my research. I searched each state for abandoned roundhouses, turntables, "roundhouse road," etc. In some cases I found only one obscure reference to a roundhouse or turntable near a location, and then found the remnants through aerial searches. It was heartbreaking when I lost that list. Regardless, some labels might have been incorrect, or dated, or simply typos. Since you hold the master list, we'll defer to your judgement.
This is an important documentation you are providing. Nowhere else is there a more comprehensive and complete list. Others have tried and failed. (At one time i had high hopes for the Trains list, but they failed to update, even after I provided them more, with proof.)
I see the links Paul provided have additional turntables and footprints not on the list yet.
Thank you for all your efforts. I'll see what else I can dig up.
And people wonder why I often insist on a paper copy or back-up . . . the various software works "most" of the time, except when it doesn't . . .
Anyway, from Page 3 of 8 (presently) of this thread, the post on 08-28-2011 at 9:08 AM (EDST):
Semper Vaporo [snipped] The next batch: PA Altoona 40°32'11.79"N 78°22'52.17"W PA Altoona 40°33'1.22"N 78°22'6.14"W PA Altoona 40°30'50.00"N 78°24'2.09"W PA Bethlehem 40° 37' 10" N 75° 24' 39" W PA Carbondale 41°34'39.87"N 75°30'3.45"W PA Clifton Forge 37°48'36.21"N 79°50'9.34"W PA Connellsville 40° 0'23.49"N 79°35'39.66"W PA Conway 40° 30' 04" N 80° 14' 31" W PA Dickerson Run 40° 2'53.02"N 79°39'58.09"W PA Enola 40° 17' 43" N 76° 55' 37" W PA Erie 42° 7'36.98"N 80° 3'36.58"W PA Lackawanna 42°48'50.72"N 78°50'10.57"W PA Lewistown 40°35'13.62"N 77°35'12.32"W PA Monroeville 40° 26' 05" N 79° 48' 12" W PA New Castle 40°58'6.32"N 80°22'8.15"W PA Orbisonia 40°14'25.27"N 77°54'0.21"W PA Philadelphia 39° 55' 43" N 75° 12' 29" W PA Port Clinton 40°34'53.72"N 76° 1'36.74"W PA Scranton 41° 24' 26" N 75° 40' 16" W PA Sharpsville 41°15'57.96"N 80°28'14.64"W PA West Pittston Jct 41°21'9.30"N 75°48'1.89"W PA Wilkes-Barre/Kingston 41°15'48.75"N 75°54'12.32"W
Lansford, PA: Here's a link to an old photo of the Lehigh Coal & Navigation Shops there for its 42" gauge equipment, but I can't clearly see a turntable, unless that's one to the left of the larger shop building ? http://www.gingerb.com/LC&N%20Lansford%20Shops.jpg and http://www.gingerb.com/lansford_station.htm Perhaps it was for the Panther Creek Railroad Company instead ? (mentioned in the caption for the Lansford Station about halfway down the page)
Jim Thorpe: Contrary to my earlier post, apparently there was an enginehouse at Jim Thorpe ! See the 1st two paragraphs of text and accompanying photos under the heading "Map of Mauch Chunk Upper Yard & Engine Terminal" on this webpage, which also references the former turntable at Coalport across the river: http://www.gingerb.com/cnj_mauch_chunk.htm You can also barely see the Coalport turntable pit a little to the left of the through truss bridge over the LV RR in this photo, at the end of a white path through the woods below it, and below the 3-span deck girder beridge over the river's waters: http://www.gingerb.com/cnj_nesquehoning_junction.htm and then: http://www.gingerb.com/CNJ%20Nesquehoning%20JCTview%206%20Aerial.jpg
Oh, heck - here's a better description and map of Coalport: http://www.gingerb.com/cnj_coalport_engine_service_area.htm
Some better photos and descriptions of Coalport: http://www.americancanals.org/photo_gallery/Lehigh_Canal/LC_Upper_Division/LC_Upper_Coalport_engine.htm
November 24, 2002 article about it:
http://articles.mcall.com/2002-11-24/features/3430985_1_turntable-trails-specialist-railroad-buffs
Another couple of photos at about the middle of this page:
http://nepaview.piczo.com/?g=37943273&cr=4
In the 3rd photo down on this webpage, the turntable pit is the slightly curved white line in the woods, just above the green trees and the 2 buzzards near the middle of the photo: http://culturedcarboncounty.blogspot.com/2010/04/pennsylvania-canal-society-visits.html
Easton, PA: See the caption - it's a start, anyway: http://www.flickr.com/photos/peachhead/969870674/
See page 12 (Page 18 of 40 of the "PDF" formnat version) of this "brownfields" redevelopment report: http://www.elibrary.dep.state.pa.us/dsweb/Get/Version-45733/02_Exec%20Summary.pdf
I may have to dig into my shoebox of film photos from the 1970's to support this one - or maybe find a Valuation Map that shows it . . .
The 2nd of Zwingle's long lists from 09-25-2011 1:51 PM
Truckee, CA: I don't think the lighter area in the Flash Earth (and Google Earth) is a section of a "round"house. One image on Google Earth shows it to be clearly rectangular with no curved edges. I do see (wishful thinking I am sure) 3 places where the filled-in turntable might have been. Does anyone have a good knowledge of the area that can pinpoint the center?
I Screwed up again and put Bucklin in Illinois... I have corrected my list and apologize to both states.
The one labeled as San Francisco is in Daly City, near Colma. Why is it labeled as San Francisco?
The 1st Little Rock, AR I have listed as North Little Rock. Verification/clarification anybody?
Bartlett, NH: your link take me to 44°6'27.1"N, 71°10'45.6"W which is just south of Glen, NH. Bartlet has a remnant of a roundhouse at: 44° 4'36.23"N, 71°17'13.49"W. About 5.5 miles apart.
Fort Erie is in Ontario Canada, not NY.
Auburn, NY: Your coords are west of mine. Your "Earlier image" is to the same image. Mine are to a standing curved structure but no TT.
Your 2nd Buffalo, NY I have listed as Lackawanna, NY.
Your 4th Buffalo, NY I have listed as W. Seneca, NY.
Your Richmond Hill, NY I have listed as Jamiaca, NY.
Your Morris Park, Long Island, NY resolves to the same location as Richmond Hill
Latest updates as of today, but I am way behind on verifying info from all the posts in the last few days... I'll get there, it just takes time.
I apologize for the labeling errors. Also, Truckee, CA wasn't centered properly. This should be right on top of the remaining footprint.
I have to give credit where due. My daughter actually found the roundhouse in Rhinelander, WI
(South) Easton, Pa: OK, here's a link to a photo and a couple of threads of this turntable (by golly, it did have a roundhouse back in the day !):
Aerial photo: http://forums.railfan.net/Images/LV/LVRR_roundhouse_shops_Glendon.jpg
"LV in Easton & Phillipsburg":
http://forums.railfan.net/forums.cgi?board=LV;action=display;num=1299208479;start=1
"100 years ago today at Easton> roundhouse collapse" (Oct. 14, 2004):
http://forums.railfan.net/forums.cgi?board=LV;action=display;num=1097758470;start=2
Lansford, PA will have to wait for another day (may be a long wait - I don't have any personal knowledge and not much info on that area).
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