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Posted by Firelock76 on Thursday, October 4, 2012 6:58 PM

Hi Juniatha!  Oh, where to begin?  That photo of Barbara Carrera?  Oh yeah, the "Dynasty" look.  I remember it well, although I never watched that prime-time soap opera. 

That Pikes Peak race?  Those people are NUTS!  One false move and you're over the side, tearing a path through the aspens and terrifying the marmots, elk, and bighorn sheep!  You know, I've been to Pikes Peak twice, rode the cog railroad up to the summit.  The first time we left in clear sky, 75 degree weather, and arrived at the summit in a blizzard!  Couldn't see a thing, but the coffee and doughnuts at the mountain house were great!  The next trip, no problems.  "Oh beautiful for spacious skies, for amber waves of grain..."  Didn't know I could sing, did you?

Oh, that '71 'Cuda?  My God, I was a senior in high school when that car was new, it's aged better than I have!  

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Posted by Ulrich on Thursday, October 4, 2012 4:13 PM

don't blame the suit..blame the diet  and too much sitting for that big caboose...

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Posted by Juniatha on Thursday, October 4, 2012 2:53 PM

>> .. something happened to mens suits that made them all look they had big butts! <<

Never mind ; Firelock , it's but the same as happened to cars body shapes a decade later - *gg*

In the 1980s women's fashion indulged in preposterous buffed fake 'broad shoulders' , see some of Barbara Carrera's costumes as Fatima Blush - designed to impersonate the archetypical 'fatal woman' , see :

http://www.celebritiesfans.com/pictures/barbara_carrera_2.jpg

(ther'e other pictures I'm sure you might like too or even better - I leave it to you to check them out)

Yet in 'Never say never again' inevitably of course she took one - fatal - exception for Bond , sure enough giving him that very chance she had so far never given to any other opponent - well , shaken , not stirred by James' alluring good-old British charms 'on the rocks , of course ...

As concerns that fake shoulders fashion craze however , it was also duplicated in cars bodies - this time by the extreme widening of fenders in rallye cars in the era when Michelle Mouton drove an Audi Quattro S1 , a groupe B monster of 476 blown hp and four wheel drive which at the end of her rallye racing career she drove to overall victory in the 1985 Pikes peak competition , see

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKKfzR7dX-c

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NnmkeyraRc

 

Enjoy the need for speed !

Juniatha


edit :  ( activated links )

extra : 1971 Hemi Barracuda on 2008 vintage car race to the clouds

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ImCeB4F11NM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NExAKxXl2Nk&feature=relmfu

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Posted by Firelock76 on Friday, September 21, 2012 6:47 PM

Juniatha

Nice link !   Women's fashion had a certain specific elegance - some of it , some was impossible .  Men's fashion was surprisingly close to what it since has been , at least in more formal business circles , while spare time clearly offers more scope for individual and casual clothing .

Whenever I see 1930s RR scenes I get a feeling there were steam locomotives to be seen - if only the camera would have made a turn ..

Was that Grand Central Terminal ?

= J =

Hi Juniatha!  No, that wasn't Grand Central Terminal but the Hollywood set designers did one hell of a job re-creating it.  I've been there (GCT) and I know.

And I have to agree, in my humble opinion the women's fashions from 1930 to 1936 or so were some of the most elegant ever created, well, in the movies at least.  The mens suits looked pretty good too, but them around 1940 or so something happened to mens suits that made them all look they had big butts!  Watch enough old movies like I do and you'll see what I mean!

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Posted by Victrola1 on Friday, September 21, 2012 9:55 AM

Bing is singing his goodbye from the 20th Century Limited. Grand Central Station, but no steam until you get a few miles out of town.

Stock footage along the Hudson River of steam pulling passengers can be seen after the Grand Central grand number.

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Posted by Juniatha on Friday, September 21, 2012 9:32 AM

Nice link !   Women's fashion had a certain specific elegance - some of it , some was impossible .  Men's fashion was surprisingly close to what it since has been , at least in more formal business circles , while spare time clearly offers more scope for individual and casual clothing .

Whenever I see 1930s RR scenes I get a feeling there were steam locomotives to be seen - if only the camera would have made a turn ..

Was that Grand Central Terminal ?

= J =

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Posted by Victrola1 on Friday, September 21, 2012 9:14 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwUO4HGpkqE&feature=related

Leave the big city in style. The overdone style no longer done on celluloid.

A brass band is on hand. Red caps prance down the grand stair case. Local beauty queens atop baggage carts sing of their destination's hopeful future. A herd of questioning reporters pester. A song is crooned to tile stars in the concourse ceiling.

From the back platform of the only rail convenience sufficiently grand, the hero sings to the platform's multitude.  He's Goin' Hollywood.

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Posted by Juniatha on Thursday, September 20, 2012 3:35 PM

Walked the boulevard with a friend the other night , passed by a movie theatre , saw Woody Allen advertised :  "To Rome with love" - just about to start , spontaneously we went to see it . 

trailer  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIbYqxqtP38

It was a nice film , all in all I really enjoyed it .   Yet it's Woody Allen as we know him since the days of "Annie Hall" - I mean , if you wanted to be cynical about it you could say it's the same party all over - with variations , true - just set up in different cities .   Ok , the plots are different - to an extent - however I noticed it in "Paris at Midnight" ( which besides that I loved ) and it was more noticeable in "Rome .." :  they are basically all New Yorkers tansplanted to various other cities , spiced with a slight patina of typical peculiarities one usually associates with inhabitants of that very city - yet pretty platitude , pretty tourist-like notations , I have to say .   Below that touch , basically the characters act like New Yorkers , also they stammer and nod and shake heads as Woody does and Woody asks his actors to do - no matter if in New York , London , Paris or Rome .   In "Rome .." certainly they don't gesticulate as Romans do , they make a few gestures as Woody Allen thinks Romans do .   All-in-all there are his typical ways of making dialogues sound more natural , yet he has recycled his tricks until they have become a Woody Allen trade mark and are assorted more to his directing than with natural behavior . 

Yet , again :  it was a nice film and provided - also typical of Woody Allen's city films - some great , in cases even fantastic , views of the city .   In fact Rome should pay him a dividend for advertising .

Have to stop here , must check for flights to Rome ...

Juniatha

PS :

Wonder what it will be in Berlin , Warsawa , Moskwa , Tokyo , San Francisco - to complete the world tour .

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Posted by John WR on Sunday, September 2, 2012 7:09 PM

From Eleanor Roosevelt's 1953 Labor Day Column:

"When I look back to the early days of the labor movement I realize how little opportunity the average worker had in the early days to regain the energy he had expended. A 12-hour day or a 10-hour day with only Sunday off, and sometimes not even that, and no paid vacation was the rule. Gradually with the growth of union organizations, which in gaining advantages for its own workers has gained these advantages too for all workers, we have come pretty uniformly to working an eight-hour day five days a week."

This reminds me of Albro Martin writing in Railroads Triumphant that in the early part of the last century the standard railroad work day was 10 hours long with a half day work on Saturdays.  Woodrow Wilson changed that by deciding the American work day would be 8 hours and there would be no reduction in pay for railroad employees.  That caused some problems for railroad management culture but management had to live with it.  

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, September 2, 2012 6:03 PM

Victrola1

First lady acknowledged
'imaginary' chats.

June 22, 1996
Web posted at: 11:55 p.m. EDT

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- First lady Hillary Rodham Clinton held imaginary conversations with Eleanor Roosevelt and Mahatma Gandhi as a therapeutic release, according to a new book written by Bob Woodward, says a report in Sunday's edition of The Chicago Sun-Times.

http://edition.cnn.com/US/9606/22/hillary.book/index.html

Maybe Eleanor is talking to others.

 

 

Somehow I'm thinking Eleanor is not at all pleased with the direction her party has taken.

 

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Posted by Victrola1 on Sunday, September 2, 2012 5:57 PM

First lady acknowledged
'imaginary' chats.

June 22, 1996
Web posted at: 11:55 p.m. EDT

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- First lady Hillary Rodham Clinton held imaginary conversations with Eleanor Roosevelt and Mahatma Gandhi as a therapeutic release, according to a new book written by Bob Woodward, says a report in Sunday's edition of The Chicago Sun-Times.

http://edition.cnn.com/US/9606/22/hillary.book/index.html

Maybe Eleanor is talking to others.


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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, September 1, 2012 9:39 PM

zugmann

Where are you today, Eleanor...

Eleanor has been looking for you in the chat.......

 

 

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Posted by zugmann on Saturday, September 1, 2012 9:36 PM

Where are you today, Eleanor...

It's been fun.  But it isn't much fun anymore.   Signing off for now. 


  

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, September 1, 2012 9:22 PM

Here is another Labor Day column authored by Mrs. Rosevelt from 1953:

http://www.gwu.edu/~erpapers/myday/displaydoc.cfm?_y=1953&_f=md002640

 

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Posted by jhollenbeck on Saturday, September 1, 2012 9:14 PM
This must be one of the weirdest things I've even seen.
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Posted by John WR on Saturday, September 1, 2012 9:09 PM

Thanks for Eleanor Roosevelt's Labor Day, 1940 column, Murray.  If there is anything that railroads are about it is labor.  Even today we have track gangs to keep the trains moving.  I was wondering if there was anything more directly about Eleanor Roosevelt and trains.  There is.  FDR's Funeral Train by Robert Klara is about the President's death in Warm Springs Georgia and his last train ride from Warm Springs to DC and then from DC to Hyde Park, NY where he is buried.  Of course Eleanor arranged both rides.  Klara writes all about it and a lot more including information about riding trains in 1944.  I haven't read the book yet.  This thread started my search.   But I did come upon several reviews at Amazon.  Here is the link:

http://www.amazon.com/FDRs-Funeral-Train-Betrayed-Presidency/product-reviews/0230619142/ref=cm_cr_dp_see_all_btm?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=1&sortBy=bySubmissionDateDescending

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, September 1, 2012 11:49 AM

Eleanor Roosevelt writing an article about Labor Day. 

Very good reading:

http://www.gwu.edu/~erpapers/myday/displaydoc.cfm?_y=1940&_f=md055674

 

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Posted by Victrola1 on Friday, August 24, 2012 9:36 PM

oltmannd

Murray

And then there's this:

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pV2Hq4U3bc8

 

 

woof.

Or, in the other direction...

http://youtu.be/rAM1MKi7bNU

although no Eleanor's were involved...

Paul Whiteman provided much better back up for Bing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vveQ4Es9tJY

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Posted by Modelcar on Friday, August 24, 2012 8:28 PM

Hello   = J = 

Surprise....You are back and you kick it up a notch, and brighten up the place....

Q

 

 

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Posted by oltmannd on Friday, August 24, 2012 2:21 PM

Murray

And then there's this:

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pV2Hq4U3bc8

 

 

woof.

Or, in the other direction...

http://youtu.be/rAM1MKi7bNU

although no Eleanor's were involved...

-Don (Random stuff, mostly about trains - what else? http://blerfblog.blogspot.com/

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Posted by Deggesty on Friday, August 24, 2012 1:59 PM

Murray

Eleanor Roosevelt approves of the new forum makeover.

I do not.

I have not found how to have emails of a thread sent to me without having to post a response to a post; I do not like having to take more than one step to get to the last page of a thread--and when you have finished with a thread it takes two steps to get back to the forum. Did anyone else have his email requests nulled? These are my main beefs.

Johnny

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, August 24, 2012 1:41 PM

And then there's this:

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pV2Hq4U3bc8

 

 

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, August 24, 2012 1:08 PM

On that same tangent, here is an interesting version of "Hey Jude:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6D8LpaQekmY

 

 

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Posted by Juniatha on Friday, August 24, 2012 11:55 AM

By the way ...

.. what about Eleanore Rigby ?

Haven't heard much of anything about her ever since Paul McCartney sang of her .   Wasn't she a BR 9 or DR 52 class 2-10-0 , anyway got saved - sorry preserved - eventually , if just by a sharp turn of a friendly card as the clock struck a whiter shade of pale in a night of white satin at the House of Usher ?   Indeed , strange days have found us - looks like we've got to break through the other side to get an answer .. although , who knows , it might be blowin in the wind !   Where have all the flowers gone ?

(which would be who's songs again , on which LPs ?) 

Regards

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Posted by AgentKid on Saturday, August 18, 2012 4:22 PM

efftenxrfe

Did anybody else here the suave hipster voice of Lord Buckley when reading it?

(if you can hear his  take on calling the departing trains from a great metropolitan station, do NOT  miss it. I hea

Which reminds of my only Amtrak trip ever, from Fullerton, CA (Los Angeles) to San Diego, in November 1977. The conductor calling out the stations as he walked through the cars was EXACTLY like the soundtrack from a 1930's B/W movie. "Oceanside". "San Clemente". To this day, whenever I read the names of any of those stops, I can hear his voice. It still gives me chills.

That guy was quite a bit older than my Dad was then, so his seniority date was probably in the late '30's, when RR's started hiring again. He put the old in old school style.

Bruce

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, August 18, 2012 10:24 AM

Wow...  Talk about a drubbing.

'Ol Alf only took Maine and Vermont in the election of 1936.

 

 

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Posted by Victrola1 on Friday, August 17, 2012 7:24 AM

http://www.scribd.com/doc/259298/Why-the-1936-Literary-Digest-Poll-Failed

It is an election year. The lull of postings maybe due to Eleanor spending so much time on the campaign train. The polls look good for Alf Landon.

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Posted by efftenxrfe on Thursday, August 16, 2012 7:17 PM

Missed it the first time, a personal tragedy.....no, misfortune.....OK, could'a been better.

Referring to the poetry.

Did anybody else here the suave hipster voice of Lord Buckley when reading it?

(if you can hear his  take on calling the departing trains from a great metropolitan station, do NOT  miss it. I heard it once and haven't found it since.)

 Robert Service provided guidance to the doggerel; very good stuff.

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, August 16, 2012 6:49 PM

Eleanor Roosevelt is waiting for you to make some posts here....

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Posted by narig01 on Thursday, August 16, 2012 6:06 PM

Why was this place so quiet?  

Rgds IGN

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