Let's turn up the houselights and ask questions

[dharmon]

QUOTE: Originally posted by kevinstheRRman

Actually the Element Kevinius is up for sale.. 50 cents a pound, that menas Kevinius is highly afordable.*


*warning. Reacts badly with the following elements: Hydrogen, helium, lithium, beryillium, boron, carbon, nitrogen, oxygen, hypokondriak, flourine, neon, argon, potassium, zink, chlorine, bromine, all radioactive elemtns..

kevinius can be used as many things:

A floor washer, a dish washer,

think.. 50 cents a pound.. gettin hard to resist?

You forgot: Known to cause adverse reaction when exposed to Missourium, Cabforwardium, and Grammmargrocerium when in it's etherial form.


At $.50 a pound? There's what ....a hundred pounds of it...wet?

[dharmon]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Mookie

QUOTE: Originally posted by csxengineer98

yawn

You are still here! All right! Let the festivities begin!

[8D]

He's one of those penicilin resistant strains.

[dharmon]

QUOTE: Originally posted by edblysard

Did too!

DID NOT
DID NOT

DID NOT TO INFINITY! (and no infinity plus ones!!)

[Anonymous]

Actually the Element Kevinius is up for sale.. 50 cents a pound, that menas Kevinius is highly afordable.*


*warning. Reacts badly with the following elements: Hydrogen, helium, lithium, beryillium, boron, carbon, nitrogen, oxygen, hypokondriak, flourine, neon, argon, potassium, zink, chlorine, bromine, all radioactive elemtns..

kevinius can be used as many things:

A floor washer, a dish washer,

think.. 50 cents a pound.. gettin hard to resist?

[Anonymous]

There is so much you can do!

Want somehtingeaven easier.. get a gas can, put stirofoam in it, now the stirofoam will melt, causing a gasolene-paste. kepp putting stirofoam into it until itwon't take anymore, and you have anice gasolene paste.

Buy some magnesium, take your mothers vitamins, it doesn't matter how you do it, shave it into a powedre, and throw it in, its like your on personal U235 Bomb!

massive explosion, if it is done inside, you'll level your house and the neighbors.

Magnesium reacts that strongly to gasolene. The chemical compounds hate each other so much, ... that is the type of reaction you are up for!

I have only ever seen this reaction once in my life, it happens when you mix the chemicals Kevinius (element 125) and Ex-Girlfriendium (element 147) the resusts are a magnificent explosion, proobly beats Magnesium and gasolene altogether!

the big KA-BLEWee

[JoeKoh]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Mookie

QUOTE: Originally posted by edblysard

Did too!

Is this the "Texans Two-Step?" (for the uninformed - both are Texans, sort of!)

Careful Ed
Mookie will put you in timeout![:)]
stay safe
Joe

[Mookie]

QUOTE: Originally posted by edblysard

Did too!

Is this the "Texans Two-Step?" (for the uninformed - both are Texans, sort of!)

[Mookie]

QUOTE: Originally posted by csxengineer98

yawn

You are still here! All right! Let the festivities begin!

[8D]

[Mookie]

Wow - I am backing off from all of you. I had trouble even lighting sparklers and snakes as a kid - so I don't go near anything that is fire or dangerous. Even butane lighters, Kev. Guess I will have to move my spot back and watch the trains through high powered binoculars!

Those open bottom dumps were on about 3-4 different cars - and not all together. They looked to be an old style - like hinged ones? Opened from one side and hung open like a cupboard door upside down. I figured one might be a mistake, but 3-4 of them and it had me wondering why.

But this is one of those trains that has open boxcar doors regularly, too, so maybe there is a rhyme to their reason?

[edblysard]

Did too!

[csxengineer98]

yawn

[rixflix]

Remember Uncle George from Borneo? Now that's a place not mentioned often here!!!! The doors and tacks didn't work but the roman candle in the expert hands of Spanky did. when fired horizontally. Went through Richmond, Indiana a day or so after a semi-trailer of one of those gasses sailed up old Rte 40 (The National Pike, main street, folks). Saw a lot of devestation on NBC in Philly before I left home, but little in Richmond. Did the Trails's Golden Eagle bypass town? Would have been August '66 going to Ft.Sill or May '68 going to Ft.Lewis
Rick

[Anonymous]

And they say kids learn how to make explosives on the internet! Why thats just absurd.

[swknox]

That must have been that large orange fire ball I saw going up into the sky tonight when I was outside looking towards the bay. I just thought it was the sun setting. Boy was I wrong. We even felt a small tremor from it. Oh and the smell..................[angel]
Wait now people we can't afford to be wasting butane, gas, or diesel in times like this, aww the hell with it. Burn baby burn...

[espeefoamer]

OK.Took the test.Turned the valve to +.Broke off the black thing & gave it a few more turns.Didn't read the part about "Do not light it".[:0]Now I am in a place with lots of pre- Amtrak passenger trains,ALCo's,and steam engines up the wazoo!!! I am also sitting on a cloud playing a harp. Next time I will read the instructions!!!

[dharmon]

QUOTE: Originally posted by edblysard

Hey, Dan started it....

Did not....

[edblysard]

Hey, Dan started it....

[locomutt]

Ed,

JOIN Kevin and the rest ON THE COUCH IN THE CORNER!

[edblysard]

Only if Kevinsthecrispyrrman takes the Last Train to Clarksville, the he can say I'm a Bleve(r)

Ed

[adrianspeeder]

oooooooooooo. FIRE. if you ever are in an emergency situation and need napalm (and i mean ONLY in and emergency) cover styrofoam with nail polish remover, wait one minute, mix ensuing globs with diesel fuel (don't use gasoline, thats not safe) and light and fling. I remember when i did this one weekend.... never mind that was a bad weekend.

Safety First

Adrianspeeder

[dharmon]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Limitedclear

QUOTE: Originally posted by mudchicken

Good for Driver!

The term is BLEVE when those things go off....You DO NOT want to be there, trust me......Tree68, UniHead & Mudchicken do not want to be there when it's roman candle time on a massive scale......The stuff is fine until you heat it up or puncture the outer hull of the tank...

Boiling Liquid Expansion Vapor Explosion = BLEVE

In the fire service we used to refer to a BLEVE as a "Blast Leveling Everything Very Effectively"...

LOL!!

LC

So kevinsthesoontobeburntoacrispman is going to be made a BLEVE(r) in the incidenary power of compressed gas.....


headed to the couch.....

[Anonymous]

Look i'm goignt o put thsis so a 2 year old can understand it..

light a mtach near it, if it goes boom, it was gas, if nothing happens, try to surpress the feeling of being gyped, for it was nothing.

oooo Ed put it so sophisticatedly.. Heres how you can find out.. this is out oif my book of rules.. Take an ordinary butaine lighter at home. turn the +/- all the way to +, matter of fact break that little black thing and take a penknife and keep turning it a few more turns.

Okay, now whatever you do, DO NOT LIGHT IT! press down the gas. You will notice the gas is comming out so fast, it will coem out as a liquid form, then quickly evaporate.

that is the sciece of things.

PROCOR tanks, are tough, really tough indeed. they can survive a good blow.

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by mudchicken

Good for Driver!

The term is BLEVE when those things go off....You DO NOT want to be there, trust me......Tree68, UniHead & Mudchicken do not want to be there when it's roman candle time on a massive scale......The stuff is fine until you heat it up or puncture the outer hull of the tank...

Boiling Liquid Expansion Vapor Explosion = BLEVE

In the fire service we used to refer to a BLEVE as a "Blast Leveling Everything Very Effectively"...

LOL!!

LC

[Anonymous]

I also saw a training film on Bleve's; it was a news film of some "On The Spot News" reporter talking with a fireman while a tank was exhausting flames from a hole in the side. In mid-sentence the film whited out as the tank launched. Everyone in the area was killed. The point of the film was to give these things lots of room. (Hmm, like I was planning to interview the firefighter myself. I don't think so.)

[edblysard]

Mookie,
LPG, Liquified petroleum gas, butane, propane, those guys.
Carl explained, its a gas at atmosphere, but under pressure, is a liquid.
You know the little bottle of propane driver has hooked to the torch he uses to solder, or the bigger bottle under the bar-b que pit?
That stuff is a LPG.
Mudchicken told you what we call it when one blows up,
Bleve.
If you do manage to poke a hole in the side of one of these, the friction of the liquid against the edge of the hole, added to the rapid expansion of the liquid into a gas, can/will cause it to explode.
Think about it, we have a offical name for one of these things blowing up.

Englewood had a bleve back in the 70s, after all the fires were out, and they found most of the cars, they ended up bulldozing most of the north side of the yard across Liberty street, into a empty lot, and starting over on rebuilding the yard.
Yes, they can throw parts of the car a mile.
We saw a bleve in our training films, the tank went pretty much straight up, about 100 feet, landed several hundered feet down range.

Now, after telling you all that, heres this.
Carl, Mudchicken, LC, wabash, me, Rodney Beck, and now, N Stephenson, all work around this stuff every day.
We transport thousands of the LPG tankers through "your" town every day.
I kick them, in cuts of two, all day long.
Because the tanks on these cars are tough, real tough.
I am sure Muddyfeathers can give you the math and specs on one, but they are designed to be beaten to death.
We are trained on how and where to place them in a train, so they dont get a hole poked in them.
Because the people who build the tankcars, and because we railroaders do our job every day, and do it right, you most likely will never see a bleve.

Holland load snugger floor, floor has slots in it, to allow a eyebolt type device for straps to be sliped into the slot and locked in place, allows you to strap and snug loading to the floor, to prevent shifting and damage.

Optimodal, also know as tanktainers, used to transport small amounts of liquid chemicals in a intermodal frame.


Open dump doors on hoppers means the conductor is trying to get fired, if one of those hangs on a crossing, hes in deep stuff.
You can move them, per the rules, (look in you GCOR or the safety rules) with the doors open, if instructed to do so by a supervisor, but only at the slowest speed, and only to the point where they can be reapired or closed.

Ed

[UPTRAIN]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Mookie

Saw some open hopper cars with bottom dumps. The dumps were open as they traveled. Drying them out? Maybe had standing water in them?

Liquified Petroleum - for making bombs? Said if it leaked you should be a mile away. What do we do with this? It is really dangerous! Probably not as bad as edible tallow, but still...... [}:)]

Sign on side of car - Holland Load Snugging Floor Action - what does this floor do?

Optimodal - cute little package - looked to be very heavy - small, fat tank-types - with bracing around them. for?????

Saw lots of Kitty Litter (CATX) and.......UPS Trucks on flat cars.....rub, rub.....

That should keep you busy for about 15 min.....

Mookie

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I know about the tanks...I think they were UP's "Bulktainers". Hope this helps. [:D][8D][:)][:p][}:)][;)]

[JoeKoh]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Mookie


Saw lots of Kitty Litter (CATX) and.......UPS Trucks on flat cars.....rub, rub.....

That should keep you busy for about 15 min.....

Mookie

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Mookie
better keep them eyes open on those UPS trailers.A guy told me he saw a container open and boxes flying out of them.was spotted by another crew train stopped and problem fixed.[:0]
stay safe
Joe

[cherokee woman]

Shall we send Kevin to THE COUCH IN THE CORNER for this[?]

[mudchicken]

Good for Driver!

The term is BLEVE when those things go off....You DO NOT want to be there, trust me......Tree68, UniHead & Mudchicken do not want to be there when it's roman candle time on a massive scale......The stuff is fine until you heat it up or puncture the outer hull of the tank...

Boiling Liquid Expansion Vapor Explosion = BLEVE

I believe Kevin has applied for the stunt dummy job on the Red Green Show?

Rusty Iron Feathers[:-^][:-^][:-^]

[dehusman]

The "stay away from" distances are for a leaking/burning container (car, etc). The distance is derived form measuring how far away pieces landed after the last one blew up.

A RR tank car of LPG if it explodes (really a rare event) have landed up to a mile away, so they ask people to stay away 1 mile in the event of a problem to put them out of range of the debris.

The Holland Floor is probably some sort of load restraining system that allows the shipper to tie a load down to the floor so it won't shift in transit.

Dave H.