THE FLAT WHEEL CAFE/DINER JULY VERSION

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Hello

I got all the dang weeding, trimming, cleaning, and refinishing done. Whew! Now we get to get ready for the fireworks tonight---there's already people waiting for our show up in the sports field!

As for the question of illegality--we're covered by license up here---although a few years ago suggestions were made about making all and any fireworks illegal---reason? The Toronto gang issue. They had gang members using the fireworks as weapons-----that was stepped on by another mayor who asked what would occur if somebody picked up a 2X4---would we ban that?-----OOPS---things got awful quiet then

Oh well, have a good evenin' folks ----gotta run.

[Deggesty]

Willy2

Regarding fireworks: The local news media reported that there were a total of 45 fireworks stands across Sarpy County, Nebraska (my county) this year. No wonder the air was thick with smoke and haze last night. Fireworks are illegal in Omaha (Douglas County), but people just go into Sarpy County, buy fireworks, and then bring them home to Omaha and shoot them off. The police know they can't do anything about it.

Every year, we see, in the Salt Lake Tribune, reminders that anything that lifts its fire off the ground (even bottle rockets) and exploding devices such as firecrackers (from the smallest to the biggest) is illegal in Utah. So, the fireworks sellers in Evanston, Wyoming, load up on the stuff they know they can sell to Utahns who come over to buy that which is illegal in Utah. You can be arrested if you are found in possession of the illegal stuff.

There are also listings of the areas in which ALL fireworks are forbidden because of extremely high danger of fire.

There are public displays of aerial fireworks for both the Fourth and for the Twenty-fourth of July.

The sale of fireworks is forbidden except for a few days before and a few days after each of the two holidays (the main body of the pioneering Latter Day Saints arrived in Utah on 24 July 1847), and the days they may be set off are also restricted greatly.

We have had a noisier year in our neighborhood than what we had last night, but we expect more noise on the Twenty-fourth, since this holiday is far more important than the Fourth.

Where I grew up, in South Carolina, Christmas and New Year's was the season for fireworks; we did not put much stock in setting fireworks off in the hot month of July. Grocery stores would lay in supplies of various fireworks, including lady crackers, regular firecrackers, roman candles, sky rockets, pinwheels, cherry bombs--almost anything that could be sold--before Christmas.

Johnny

[piouslion1]

Thanks Mr. Tom:

 I wish I could come around more often than on holidays. Like LC in his area, I have my hands full with the recession.  It is my hope that we will see some light at the end of the tunnel soon. Unfortunately with the reset of the 5 year ARMS in the next year or so I fear it to be a fast freight not the end of the tunnel we are seeing.

I do miss Miss Miss Paula's coffee and the conversation in the forum.

Let us hope that the mess will stop being such a bother and America can get back to doing what it does best. . . Grow and Prosper

PL

[cherokee woman]

The rain has finally ended here in our area.  But it is still very humid/muggy outside.  Also cloudy and overcast.  I think our current temp is about 71 degrees.

Sunday Dinner menu:  

1.  Beef tips w/broccoli, peas and carrots medley

2.  Open-face roast beef sandwiches w/mashed taters and brown gravy, corn, green beans and your choice of cole slaw or garden salad, and sliced tomatoes, also your choice of cornbread or homemade buttermilk biscuits w/real butter.

Quentin, we (Walt, Sarah and I) always loved  to watch "Are You Being Served?".  I had not heard about Molly Sugden passing on.  Next to John Inman, who played Mr. Humphreys, she was my favorite on that show.  May she rest in peace.

 

[Willy2]

 

 

Modelcar

Willy2

Yesterday was the second coldest July 4th on record for Omaha. We had a high of only 70 degrees. The coldest was in 1915 at 67 degrees. I'll bet some of the hottest ones were during the 1930s.

Willy.....Some years ago, a fellow I worked with used to comment of how the 4th of July is very often below normal in temps.....Does history of this subject show there to be any validity in this thought......?

PS:  Our temp here in central Indiana yesterday, {the 4th}, was perhaps 10 degrees below normal, and with very light rain...{total}: 1/4".  But many local programs were able to continue last night as the rain did let up....and the moon came out.

I haven't read or heard anything that states factually that July 4th is often below normal for temperatures. A lot of people in Omaha actually seem to associate July 4th with the hottest weather of the year.

Our National Weather Service office posted some July 4th climate facts for the last 12 years. The 150 year average high for the first week of July is 86.9 degrees in Omaha. An average of all the highs for the last 12 Fourth of Julys comes out to be 86.5 degrees, which is pretty close to normal. Our hottest was 110 degrees in 1936, so it can certainly be much above average too.

[Modelcar]

Willy2

Yesterday was the second coldest July 4th on record for Omaha. We had a high of only 70 degrees. The coldest was in 1915 at 67 degrees. I'll bet some of the hottest ones were during the 1930s.

 

Willy.....Some years ago, a fellow I worked with used to comment of how the 4th of July is very often below normal in temps.....Does history of this subject show there to be any validity in this thought......?

PS:  Our temp here in central Indiana yesterday, {the 4th}, was perhaps 10 degrees below normal, and with very light rain...{total}: 1/4".  But many local programs were able to continue last night as the rain did let up....and the moon came out.

[Modelcar]

locomutt

Quention, we don't have an HD TV just yet, but with the  coming of digital television, it really helps the picture quality on the analog receivers; last nights "Capitol Fourth" was an outstanding program.

Walt.....It really was a presentation of beauty....!  And the music with it and the sound of all the fireworks going off, made the program one of a kind.  Previously, I've thought the presentation from Australia on various occasions, has been most spectatular, but to my experience, this topped that.

[grampaw pettibone]

locomutt

Quention, we don't have an HD TV just yet, but with the  coming of digital television, it really helps the picture quality on the analog receivers

We've noticed the same thing. The cable signal is considerably sharper now than it has been, For those of you who are 'ARE YOU BEING SERVED?" fans, I saw where Molly Sugden passed away a few days ago. RIP Mrs Slocum. 88 degrees in Carolina, already hotter than the predicted high, with lightning forecast for later. Take care

[Willy2]

77 degrees in Omaha right now and we're looking at a high in the lower 80s. Yesterday was the second coldest July 4th on record for Omaha. We had a high of only 70 degrees. The coldest was in 1915 at 67 degrees. I'll bet some of the hottest ones were during the 1930s.

Regarding fireworks: The local news media reported that there were a total of 45 fireworks stands across Sarpy County, Nebraska (my county) this year. No wonder the air was thick with smoke and haze last night. Fireworks are illegal in Omaha (Douglas County), but people just go into Sarpy County, buy fireworks, and then bring them home to Omaha and shoot them off. The police know they can't do anything about it.

Otherwise, there's not much more happening here, so I hope everyone has a good day.

[bubbajustin]

locomutt

Deggesty

bubbajustin

Got grandpas yard mowed today. Also got one of the doors made. The other will have to be made again... When using a circular saw, you must be precise.

Justin, one of the major rules in cutting is: measure twice and cut once. You may be able to avoid bad mistakes if you follow this rule.

In our living room (which I paneled going on twenty-five years ago) there is a place with two pieces of paneling where there should be only one--because I was careless in measuring. At least, I was able to cut another piece to fill my error in. What's really bad is cutting too short; if you cut too long, you may be able to cut it right the second time.

Can you sleep nights for thinking about your upcoming trip? I wish you and your family well in your vacation trip to Colorado and back. As the Southern Pacific used to say (a long, long, time ago) "Getting there is half the fun."

Johnny

 

Johnny, Very Good Words of Wisdom, although the one I Grew up with was; "Measure Three Times and Cut Once"!   Not that much difference, but..............

(or you could go out and buy a "Lumber Stretcher")

[just as good as 50' of "Flight Line" or a bucket of "Prop Wash" ]

(believe me, I've made my share of errors over the years! (and then some!)

Thanks for the tips guys! We've been trying really hard to get it done, so it's just been quickly measure once then cut. We had to rebuild the entire door frame. Looks great now though.

We've been usinf that T-111 board. Great stuff, but really expensive! like $115 for 4 sheets!

I really can't wait for vacation! only 6 days!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Although now it's just lik cool! Cause I've worried about it for so long.

Still can't wait!

Justin

[bubbajustin]

Well, the 4th went realtivally well. a small family quarrl went on. (involving dad unforanatuly) Is now ironed out thanfully.

Now a georgous day here in western Indiana. 70* with a cool breeze. Also I too would like to thank our vetrans and our current service men and women, for serving us!

Justin

[locomutt]

 Hope everybody had a good 4th of July Celebration and didn't overindulge in things!!

Dirty Feathers; the hint about measuring the diagonal is a very good one, that way you'll know if your project is "square". Just be sure and measure the diagonals from all corners.

Quention, we don't have an HD TV just yet, but with the  coming of digital television, it really helps the picture quality on the analog receivers; last nights "Capitol Fourth" was an outstanding program.

We almost always watch the "Capitol" programs on PBS when they're on. (Memorial Day,etc.)

 

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Last night the neighbour and I did up some more fireworks for the neighbourhood---another 100+ people showed up. We get licenses for this up here---so they tend not to be having issues. More $$$ for the neighbourhood youth group.

We getting sun today and a high of 24C---going to be another 70% chance of rain for tomorrow again.

 Got some weeding to do in the Veggie garden today----then some floor work in the basement

Have a good one--

[Modelcar]

Overcast and dry here this morning....But we did get 1/4" of needed rain yesterday and it stopped for many of the celebrations last night.  Sun to shine later today.

Had to balance the TV program from Washington D C and Nascar last night.  Especially the last half hour of the PBS TV program from D C....That probably was the most extreme sight program of celebrations on TV I've ever seen....The last half hour was wonderful {for the 4th celebration}, by military band music, and all put together with HD TV....absolutely outstanding....Colors unbelievable...!

And the Nascar finish at Daytona....What can one say.....Sure hope no one was seriously hurt....They wen't reporting any at sign off....

[cherokee woman]

Good Sunday morning, everyone.  We've got a current temp in the mid 60s, with light rain.  The rain is supposed to be gone about noon time, and they're saying our high today will only be 70 degrees F.  

Yeah, with the amount of fireworks we could hear just around our neighborhood, let alone the fireworks down on the river last night, probably helped our local economy quite a bit, also.  We've heard quite of bit of it in the last two weeks, and I'll bet we'll continue hearing them until after Labor Day.  That's usually the way it goes around here.

Coffee, juices and our other normal breakfast beverages are ready, even the hot water for tea.

Along with the bagels and bear claws, you also find on the warmer bar this morning:  

1.  Your choice of bacon or sausage w/buttermilk pancakes and your choice of maple or blueberry syrup, or strawberries w/strawberry glaze and scrambled eggs

2.  Bacon or sausage w/scrambled eggs and homemade buttermilk biscuits and sausage gravy

Hope everyone has a very nice morning, be careful going out to Church this morning.  If anyone has any meal requests for Sunday Dinner, please let me know, so I can get started on preparations.

[JoeKoh]

well it wasn't the quanity that came through deshler.But k 381(coke train) cmae by with 2 ns horse's on the point.Matt had a good time running trains on the layout.we then took G+G to see the fireworks.mookie I agree with you.Alot of people we blowing their $$ tonight.Cw thanks for the pizza snack.

good night

stay safe

joe

[grampaw pettibone]

Welcome back, Roy. I was getting concerned about ye. Don't stay away so much.

[Mookie]

Sir C - at least it wasn't snow!

If fireworks (mostly illegal) are any indication of the recession, our city doesn't seem to know it exists!  We could cover at least half of the deficit for what was spent just here in our neighborhood.

Hope LC is helping the rest of the economy if he is busy.

Barking doorbells enjoying all the lights and noise?

 

[mudchicken]

(1) for the measure twixt or thrice clubs: measure at least one diagonal in there....

(2) mooks: John back through on #6 last night, he's got a full dose of eastern Colorado front range and survived a frog strangler. Never saw a squirrel swim until yesterday in central Denver. One got caught in a street gutter flowing at capacity during a downpour. Looked like a big fish in shallow water until he found a phone pole and climbed out and looked back at the flooded street in confusion.

(3) talked to LC earlier this week, he's more than a little swamped in work and obligations. He may not be around much for a while....

(4) Beware the rhetoric class Willy. Be able to identify the "if you can't dazzle 'em with brilliance..." routine, but avoid emulating it....

[cherokee woman]

Well, we were going to fix the pizzas on the grill for tonight, but:  we got rained out!  So, I've fixed the pizzas in the oven, and they're now on the warmer bar.  Tonight's selections:

1.  Anchovie

2.  Cheese w/extra cheese

3.  Pepperoni w/mushrooms

4.  Supreme

5.  Goetta

6.  Hawaiian

For dessert, we have a white cake, with white icing, and icing to represent the red stripes of our flag, and a field of blue with little white stars.  

And a very, very special THANK YOU!! to all our veterans, and current military personnel, who enable us to continue to celebrate the birth of our country!!

[piouslion1]

Happy Fourth of July to all

As Quenton said, It has been earned.

To the glorious Fourth:

          Of Independence 223 years

                    and of the Republic 211 years

Thanks to all in uniform present and past for this day of days

Piouslion

AKA - Roy Alexander

Winston-Salem, NC

 

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locomutt

Randy, while "Malfunction Junction" might not be the "Official" name, here it's the one that Local people use; and there have been more than enough wrecks and semis losing their loads for going too fast on the exit/entrance ramps.(even with ALL the Signs and Caution Lights that have been put up.)

We have a stretch of the 401 between London ON and Woodstock ON that ---even though it has since been widened to 6 lanes wide STILL manages to get closed both ways because trucks end up losing loads and whatnot. Now they are considering on widening the 401 to eight lanes.

Just makes everyone go faster-----

The NIMBY thing is everywhere. A favourite of mine invloves the University of Western Ontario's bridge over the Thames R. up here. It is THE only bridge between Oxford Street and highway 22 to the north of the university-----the traffic through there is rediculous during the school year---with all sorts of people kvetching about the traffic---how dare the students go to university--they're taking up to much space on our roads---etc-

But when someone suggested that a bridge be placed on another road through there---NIMBY!!

And we hear the kvetching some more about the traffic----

[Modelcar]

.....Everyone enjoy our Independence Day holiday.  It has been earned many times over the years.

[locomutt]

rvos1979

Mutt:

Actually, Malfunction Junction is a few hundred miles south of you, in Birmingham, AL.  There have been some nasty wrecks there, usually involving a steel hauler who didn't secure their load properly, going around one of the ramps too fast.  A few cars have been flattened by the 40,000lb coils when they came off the truck.  Lower speed limits and state certification of steel hauler drivers are the results of these accidents.

Honestly, the first bridge they need to build is the bridge on the east side of town, making I-265 whole from Indy to Kentucky, then worry about downtown.  At least then, we would have an alternate route.... 

 

 

Randy, while "Malfunction Junction" might not be the "Official" name, here it's the one that Local people use; and there have been more than enough wrecks and semis losing their loads for going too fast on the exit/entrance ramps.(even with ALL the Signs and Caution Lights that have been put up.)

You are SO CORRECT on the "East End" Bridge!!  Then there should be one built on the "West End"; where I-265 (Ky 841) hits Dixie Hwy. to make a complete "Circle Freeway", or alternate route.

The "East Enders" are the Biggest NIMBYS in the area, they (and the River Fields  area don't want their tranquility disturbed for ANY reason; even if it means more jobs and a better economy; they just want to live "Peacefully" in their "Little Slice of Heaven"! (SNOBS!)

[rvos1979]

Mutt:

Actually, Malfunction Junction is a few hundred miles south of you, in Birmingham, AL.  There have been some nasty wrecks there, usually involving a steel hauler who didn't secure their load properly, going around one of the ramps too fast.  A few cars have been flattened by the 40,000lb coils when they came off the truck.  Lower speed limits and state certification of steel hauler drivers are the results of these accidents.

Honestly, the first bridge they need to build is the bridge on the east side of town, making I-265 whole from Indy to Kentucky, then worry about downtown.  At least then, we would have an alternate route.... 

[locomutt]

rvos1979

Mornin' all....

Forgot to mention a few things from my sleep-clouded mind last night, first off, want to thank Ohio for raising the speed limit to 65 on the interstates, doesn't save much east of Cleveland (maybe 10 mins), but it does help.

CW, was rooting around in the IN and KY DOT websites, I see that as soon as studies are done and money is available, they will be rebuilding Spaghetti Junction, as well as the Ohio river bridge on I-65.  Should be interesting when (IF!!) it gets built....

Everyone have a good and safe fourth, and remember, alcohol, vehicles, and explosives do not mix.  Am sure I will see my share of idiots out here today, especially around Chicago.

See everyone later..... 

 

 

HAPPY BIRTHDAY AMERICA!!!

Hope everyone has a "Safe and Sane" Holiday

 

Randy,  That's all they've been doing for the last 15 years....are studies about "Malfunction Junction"! By the time they get around to building the bridges (if ever) everything will be more obsolete than it is now!  I would LOVE to have some of the "Tax Dollars" that have already been spent on those "Studies"!!

I know EVERYWHERE has their NIMBYS; but we sure have a BUNCH here that don't want any more bridges across the Ohio.......we only have three, and none of these people seem to care what would happen if even one of those bridges got put out of service! Louisville is like a lot of other cities right now in having very big budget problems, but yet is still building a new basketball arena downtown, and still trying to make this a "World Class City", but seemingly dosen't care how the traffic is going to get in and out of the city. (seems the roadways are much lower on the list than the arena, go figure?!)

CW mentioned that we had gone out to a "Peddler's Mall" and wound up with a few things; well, I wound up with a used mountain bike at a Very good price......Joe, you and Matt come down here and we'll all go riding around some of our bike trails. One of them starts at Clagg Tower (old Pennsy lift bridge) and goes towards the old K & I T yard, (now NS) along the canal and locks and dam.

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Happy Independence Day !!!!

Good thing that this is on a white background!!

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We are seeing SUN!!! today. We've been getting a little desperate up here----July and the temperatures/ cloudbanks and rain did not help much----

Now I get to mow the lawn, do lots of weeding and all that other Schtuff one does

Have a good safe weekend folks--

[rvos1979]

Mornin' all....

Forgot to mention a few things from my sleep-clouded mind last night, first off, want to thank Ohio for raising the speed limit to 65 on the interstates, doesn't save much east of Cleveland (maybe 10 mins), but it does help.

CW, was rooting around in the IN and KY DOT websites, I see that as soon as studies are done and money is available, they will be rebuilding Spaghetti Junction, as well as the Ohio river bridge on I-65.  Should be interesting when (IF!!) it gets built....

Everyone have a good and safe fourth, and remember, alcohol, vehicles, and explosives do not mix.  Am sure I will see my share of idiots out here today, especially around Chicago.

See everyone later..... 

[bubbajustin]

Morning

Supposed to be a bit rainy this morning. A little dreary right now. Supposed to move out intime for fireworks. Last year the cloud cover was so low, we couldn't see them explode...

Every one have a good 4th of July!

1 week till' vacation!!!

[cherokee woman]

Good Saturday morning, and Happy Independence Day to all our forum family!!

Joe, thank you for fixing breakfast!  Joe, sounds like your friends are really enjoying their stay!  

I'll be firing up the charcoal grill after a little bit, and will start grilling all the hot dogs, hamburgers, brats, corn on the cob, veggies, and whatever else any of you want fixed on the grill. 

This has been a busy week around our house.  Been having some work done on the outside of the house:  gutters.  They are supposed to be here sometime this morning, to finish up what little bit they have to do, to sign off on the job.  After they finally left about 4:30, 5:00 last evening, we hopped into the Jeep and went to the new Peddler's Mall that just opened up Wednesday.  Pretty nice set up at this new location.  It's on the second floor of a building that used to house a Bacon's department store, before Dillard's took them over.  Not completely set up with booths, but there was a lot of booths, with plenty more room for a whole lot more.  We got some interesting buys.

Everyone have a terrific 4th of July morning, and Be Careful with the Fireworks!!!  See you all after a bit.