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Amtrak Derailment in Mississippi
Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, April 6, 2004 9:20 PM
This is just over the wire. Their is some sad news to report their has been a deadly Amtrak crash in Mississippi Amtrak's City of New Orelans going to Chicago Train 58 has derailed near Jackson it had 79 passengers and 12 crew members. Their has been reportedly 1death and this is flat but has had derailments before if anyone has more news please write it.

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, April 6, 2004 9:23 PM
Jeez, I hope it's got nothing to do with any pre-planned stuff.
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, April 6, 2004 9:34 PM
My sadness goes out to the family that lost a member

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, April 6, 2004 9:41 PM
Now it's more than 79 sorry for the miksteake

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Posted by CG9602 on Tuesday, April 6, 2004 9:53 PM
There can be no good coming from this. At least the wreck reconstruction program is up and running, so there may be a few replacements in the pipeline for the peak summer season. Rumor has it that at least 7 cars were turned on to the sides. As with any derailment, this is quite unfortunate. My condolences go out to the rails and the passengers who experienced this. [V][:(]
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Posted by zardoz on Tuesday, April 6, 2004 9:53 PM
By JOEDY McCRARY, Associated Press Writer

YAZOO CITY, Miss. - An Amtrak train derailed in rural central Mississippi late Tuesday, killing at least one person on board and injuring dozens.



"We have one confirmed dead and we've got possibly 80 injured," said Amy Carruth, a spokeswoman for the Mississippi Emergency Management Agency in Jackson. "We understand some of the injured are possibly critical."


Meanwhile, Gov. Haley Barbour declared a state of emergency and said in a statement that rescuers on the scene believed the number of injured could be as high as 90.


At least one Jackson hospital reportedly received a number of the injured but officials declined to release details.


Dan Stessel, a spokesman for Amtrak, said nine of the train's cars left the tracks about 25 miles north of Jackson and toppled onto their sides. He said the train's manifest showed 72 passengers and 12 crew members.


Carruth said her agency "was sending every resource we can get out hands on out there. ... At last report we've still got people trapped."


Besides search teams, portable lights and other equipment was being rushed to the scene, she said. Red Cross staffers were on hand to assist passengers.


Yazoo County sheriff's dispatcher Mary Whisenton said at least five ambulances had also been sent to the scene.


Stessel said he had no information on what caused the accident.


The train was traveling from New Orleans to Chicago when it left the tracks at about 7 p.m. near the Yazoo-Madison county line, authorities said.


Stessel said the train made several stops after leaving New Orleans about 1:55 p.m., including Jackson. He said the train had a scheduled stop in Yazoo City.




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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, April 7, 2004 8:04 AM
We just got the consist which was suppose to be the Texas Eagle Today
P42 82
Baggage 1223
Sleeper (Crew Drom) 32036
Diner 38009
Lounge 33013
Coach Smoking 31592
Coach 34069
Coach 34087
Sleeper 32005 (Just Rebuit
Coach 34135 Deadhead

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Posted by BNSFNUT on Wednesday, April 7, 2004 9:49 AM
I just heard on CNN (10:18 am EDT) that the FBI has sent agents to the wreck.
I shows how times has change that the FBI is called before the cause of the accident is found. Used to be only after sabatoge was found that the law would be called in.
I guess that it will be the norm from now on.

There is no such thing as a bad day of railfanning. So many trains, so little time.

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Posted by cherokee woman on Wednesday, April 7, 2004 10:22 AM
Locomutt's & my deepest and sincerest sympathies go out to the crew, passengers, and the family/friends of the one who lost their life in the accident last night.

Let us all pray for them all and for the emergency workers there.
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, April 7, 2004 4:01 PM
The Track was bad I heard and I doubt it was terrorism

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, April 7, 2004 4:09 PM
Their has been a passenger recount their were 67 Passengers and 12 crew. Also the lady who died was from Chicago

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Posted by UPTRAIN on Wednesday, April 7, 2004 9:02 PM
Why do you have the Texas Eagle Consist on that post doggy...the derailed train was The City of New Orleans...the Texas Eagle goes through my town...in Missouri.

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, April 7, 2004 9:15 PM
UPTRAIN,
The reason I have it is it becomees the Eagle's consist in Chicago but thanks for pointing that out.

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Posted by UPTRAIN on Wednesday, April 7, 2004 9:19 PM
It was on CN. On the Ex-IC...near Vaughn, MS where Casey Jones was killed.

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, April 7, 2004 9:21 PM
Just heard this this track has had 4 frieght derailments scince 1994 Hello Excutives does this ring a bell?

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, April 7, 2004 9:26 PM
Wait, please, before assessing blame. The cause is not yet reported. It could be mechanical, track, both, or other. Four derailments in 10 years means nothing in and of itself. Even track and equipment maintained to the highest standard will experience failure. After a cause is determined, and a pattern established, THEN it is fair to comment. Until then, comments on cause and blame will only encourage responsible users to leave this forum. When they leave, answers to questions will disappear with them.
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Posted by edblysard on Wednesday, April 7, 2004 10:07 PM
Without statements from the head end crew, and minus what the surfboard and the Feds put out on tomorrow's morning news, the best anyone here could do is guess, and guessing is a very dangerous game.

You bet the FBI is going to send agents, in todays post 9/11 world, the director of the office that handles that area would be unemployeed right quick if he/she didnt.

And not to bust any bubbles, but every hour of every day, somewhere in America, a train is on the ground, be it on a mainline or in a yard, derailments are a daily part of railroading, the only difference is in severity.

There is a reason the old switchers had re-railing frogs on board..

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Posted by UPTRAIN on Wednesday, April 7, 2004 10:14 PM
I agree with Mr. Hemphill it is not right to point the finger this quickly...we had car split a brand new switch a few weeks ago at 10 mph.

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, April 8, 2004 7:17 PM
Oh yes the Enginner saw a track defect so he slowed the train from 79 to 0. Also Doggy has a photo of the Locomotive leading the Train

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Posted by RudyRockvilleMD on Thursday, April 8, 2004 10:39 PM
I generally agree with Mark Hemphill, and as I replied to a similar topic speculating on the cause of the derailment is just that - speculation. However, I disagree with Mark Hemphill in a way. The fact that four derailments occurred on that stretch of track in the past ten years may or may not be significant; it depends on their causes and their severities, and that is for the NTSB to judge.
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, April 9, 2004 12:10 PM
I just found out the Tracks were inspected just before the accident and this wreck puts Amtrak down 9 Cars for the Summer that they need to get out now

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Posted by csxengineer98 on Friday, April 9, 2004 7:26 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Doggy

I just found out the Tracks were inspected just before the accident and this wreck puts Amtrak down 9 Cars for the Summer that they need to get out now

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where are you getting your info from... you seem to have alot of it... and if its good info...damn good insider info...or are you just speculating like eveyone else dose when a train hits the ground...
99% of the people that post responces with thier input on derailments have no clue about happend... but all of assenden become track and equipment experts as soon as the steel hits the stones...
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, April 9, 2004 8:50 PM
CSX,
I'm getting this info from the News and www.trainorders.com then go to the Amtrak Board and Oh Yes and I've got clout at Amtrak

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, April 9, 2004 11:06 PM
I wonder, will CN reroute traffic thur Grenada? I remember the trackage is jointed. Maybe slow orders.
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Posted by csxengineer98 on Saturday, April 10, 2004 5:05 AM
oh..trainorders.....hahahahah...now thats a laugh... i go thier when im feeling down and need a boost of hummer to lift my spirts... most of that info is just speculation... like i said befor... when the steel hits the stones... eveyone becomes an expert on derailments... and that group at TO is no exeption...in fact...they are one of the worst sights i have ever come accross for arm chair computer room crash investigators...
TRAINORDERS....ahahahahahahhahaahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah
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Posted by wabash1 on Saturday, April 10, 2004 6:12 AM
I havent went to train orders in 2 years . to listen to them we dont do our jobs right at all.
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Posted by Big_Boy_4005 on Saturday, April 10, 2004 11:39 AM
Thanks CSX and Wabash. Frankly, I'm getting a little tired of seeing doggy doo on our rails here. More sand please!! [swg]
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, April 10, 2004 1:31 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by csxengineer98

oh..trainorders.....hahahahah...now thats a laugh... i go thier when im feeling down and need a boost of hummer to lift my spirts... most of that info is just speculation... like i said befor... when the steel hits the stones... eveyone becomes an expert on derailments... and that group at TO is no exeption...in fact...they are one of the worst sights i have ever come accross for arm chair computer room crash investigators...
TRAINORDERS....ahahahahahahhahaahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah
csx engineer

Now CSX,
I've also got the Info News and THIS IS NOT A AHAH SUBJECT ALSO I AM NOT SPECULATING I ALSO FOUNDOUT on CNN, YAHOO ETC.

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AND DON"T LAUGHT THIS LADIE HUBSEN WHO DIED COULD SUE AMTRAK SO THIS IS NOT A LAUGHING MADDER OH YES HOW WOULD YOU LIKE IT IF YOU WERE THAT LADIE HUBSEN CSX
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Posted by Big_Boy_4005 on Saturday, April 10, 2004 2:56 PM
Her ticket may prevent her family from suing Amtrak, as it may be an automatic acceptance of risk, just like your ticket to the Cub's game.
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, April 10, 2004 3:09 PM
This section of track occurs in an area that has a very unique type of soil. It is called Yazoo Clay and is only found in the central Mississippi and delta of Mississippi area. It is extremely expansive and cause severe problems for any type of construction in this area. It causes problems for railroad roadbeds, building, highways, etc.. When it is kept in a constant state, either wet or dry, there is no movement. If dry, when it becomes wet, it expands two to three times it's original size. When wet, and it dries out, it shrinks. We have had a period of about three weeks of no rain, so this may be one of the problems associated with that stretch of track.

Latest from the media is that the engineer saw some sort of misalignment in the track and applied the brakes, then saw the right rail roll out. He then went into emergency. All of this happened in twenty seconds. Hats off to the quick action of the engineer.

Track has reopened and had both the north and south bound City of New Orleans through yesterday. Still under slow order until cars are removed. Some of the freight traffic has been rerouted on the other North/South line (Grenada District).

Sympathy to the family who lost a loved one.

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