UP - NS Merger

[Anonymous]

But about mergers--does anyone find anything wrong with CN going to the Gulf of Mexico [:)]????

-Daniel

[ironhorseman]

I need one of those smileys where the eyes roll but this will do--[sigh]

Here we go again. Another merger rumor. We need a seperate forum for rumors. What I would think would be a great idea is instead of talking about merger rumors would be if we could get someone to explain how the merger process takes place. What goes into it? How does a railroad decide who it's gonna merge will and what makes a railroad decide it want's to be merged? And how come instances one railroad swallows another (UP-SP) while others retain part of their identity (BN-SF)?? Or think about when all those railroads merged became the Burlington Northern? Chicago, Burlington and Quincy and the Great Northern were in there and look what the final name was. And look what colors BNSF is now.

What was the terms of the BNSF merger? Was Santa Fe on it's way to failure like I've heard? Did the BN help it by merging? Can I find any articles in Trains Magazine about this merger?

Maybe if we understood how a merger goes down would that curtail the rumors? Or maybe making rumors up is all the fun?

[Anonymous]

THIS WILL HAPPEN IN OUR LIFETIME THEN BNSF WILL EAT CSX FOR LUNCH

[mudchicken]

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[wcfan4ever]

It's bad enough that WC was "Merged" into CN. I hate seeing all these mergers. I just wi***hey would all stop. Leave railroading how it is. It almost seems as if someday, railfans will be taking pictures of just one railroad...if it does every happen, it would most likely be UP. I think the UP is big enough and it doesn't need any more regaurdless if you call it a merger or not.

[Anonymous]

I also keephearing of an NS-BNSF merger. I have heard more, too. I think NS will merge with someone soon.

[Big_Boy_4005]

QUOTE: Originally posted by erikthered

Yikes.
Given the rather poor history of rail mergers in the past ten years I think you would see a lot of controversy over this one. Although the ICC no longer exists, I would expect to see some interest from the Department of Justice and probably the Securities and Exchange Commission as well.

If NS is seriously considering merger, would it not make more sense to merge with BNSF? Would it not make more sense for UP to try and eat up CSX?

This observation does make a lot more sense. I recently saw two CSX locos pulling a string of empty hoppers westbound on UP's ex C&NW Chicgao to Twin Cities line just east of St Paul.

[Anonymous]

I wouldn't welcome this either .... but really, I just started the thread to poke a little fun at the UP about being closer to the "end" of the horse that carries the tail, than the head.

[Anonymous]

The SP-UP merger was bad enough. That would for sure cause a meltdown.

[Anonymous]

I believe the merger atmosphere will stay "standard quo", all the class 1's have their hands full with being ready for the up-tick in business if the US economy takes off...
For now, alliances between them are working very well, are cheap, and flexiable.
Wall Street doesn't want any mergers...

[rrnut282]

If NS hadn't spent so much on Conrail, they would have had enough cash on hand to buy UP and have money left over.

[JoeKoh]

Uncle pete cant do a merger now.especially with all the service problems for all the new mega roads.just my two cents
stay safe
Joe

[Anonymous]

Yikes.
Given the rather poor history of rail mergers in the past ten years I think you would see a lot of controversy over this one. Although the ICC no longer exists, I would expect to see some interest from the Department of Justice and probably the Securities and Exchange Commission as well.

If NS is seriously considering merger, would it not make more sense to merge with BNSF? Would it not make more sense for UP to try and eat up CSX?

[Anonymous]

OK, OK, I was stretching it a bit there. I wouldn't leave the hobby, but I would be VERY MAD!

[Anonymous]

NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! I might as well not be a railfan if it's just UP and NS that runs through here. I see a lot of UP power around here and I AM AFRAID THAT THIS IS TRUE!!!!!!!! NOW UP IS BUYING THIS EVOLUTIONJUNK, NS MIGH BUY THIS EVOLUTION JUNK, AND ALL THEY DO NO IS MERGE WITH CN, AND,THAT"S IT, I'll SELL MY CAMERA AND I"LL NEVER RAILFAN AGAIN. UP's GONnA DO THIS COPYRIGHT JUNK, AND NS WILL BE COPYRIGHTED. I WILL HAVE A LOT OF NS EQUIPMENT ON MY LAYOUT AND IF I HAVE TO PAY MORE I"M GONNA FLIP AND LEaVE MODEL RAILROADING AS WELL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THIS IS HORRIBLE EVEN THINKING ABOUT IT, AND IF IT HAPPENS, I'm OUTTA HERE!

[CShaveRR]

No, No, No, No, No, No, No!

That is definitely not what makes UP the horse's other end!

[Anonymous]

There has been speculation about a possible UP + NS merger.

We all know that the NS logo has the head of a horse, which represents their "Thoroughbred Service."

Would that make the UP the other end of the horse? [;)] [:D]