passengerfanTexasZepherSanta Fe Odyssey Volume 1 by Green Frog....in my collection of well over 300 DVDS and Videos. I just have to find it among almost 400 in my collection.
TexasZepherSanta Fe Odyssey Volume 1 by Green Frog.
Maybe it was not Santa Fe MOW I saw with the Oxide Red with silver roof.
Hint - The cars in question are not Maintenance of Way equipment. Most of these cars operated in Kansas, Oklahoma, and Texas. However, I do have a few records showing they regularly got to Colorado. Without further research I have to ASSUME that they were used system wide just not as common as Kansas.
Texas ZepherBut be careful. there was a disc included in a railroad boxed set from Walmart titled Santa Fe Odeyssey Volume 1 that is NOT THE SAME as the one I'm speaking of.
Got mine direct from Green Frog and yes they are all rail. I also have a collection of Aviation DVDs and am interested in Ship DVDs as well but they are secondary. On the Classic trains thread you mentioned reference books. I put together one of my own some years ago that takes ten three inch binders on the Pullman Standard cars that only includes the heavyweights and lightweight streamlined. I keep saying I will eventually get around to all the Wooden cars from Pullman and there predecessors one of these days.
In addition I have two three inch binders on the Budd cars and one three inch binder that covers American Car & Foundry, St. Louis Car and the RRs that built there own. This latter is all lightweight. I even have the Canadian Car Builders and the Mexican Car builder. Am working on Colorado Railcar and its predecessors at the present and hope to have a complete car building and rebuilding binder on them before to long.
I have the commercial references you referred to but needed more detail such as trucks etc. that is why I created a monster.
Al - in - Stockton
Texas ZepherMost of Santa Fe's heavy weight passenger fleet carried a not quite Olive not quite Pullman Green color. There were a few passenger cars that were painted oxide red instead. Why, and what was their nick name? I don't know if this nick name is unique to the Santa Fe or not.
Maybe they were through cars for trains that hitched up with MoPac or Frisco, something like that??
They weren't Jim Crow cars, were they? If they were, I don't care to give the reason, but you know I know.
Carl
Railroader Emeritus (practiced railroading for 46 years--and in 2010 I finally got it right!)
CAACSCOCOM--I don't want to behave improperly, so I just won't behave at all. (SM)
Were these cars operated in conjunction with the Chicago and Alton, whose colors were Maroon and orange?
Johnny
Interesting guesses, but no, no, and no.
Next hint - Probably giving it away here. The mineral red is the same color as the AT&SF caboose.
Thanks for the latest hint. Drovers' cabooses, for hauling the cowboys whose cattle was being shipped on that particular train.
CShaveRR Thanks for the latest hint. Drovers' cabooses, for hauling the cowboys whose cattle was being shipped on that particular train.
Oooh. That sounds good! I was thinking mixed trains, but that's perfect. In fact, if that's not the answer, it should be. How about "cowboy caboose" or "cowboy crummy" for a nickname?
-Don (Random stuff, mostly about trains - what else? http://blerfblog.blogspot.com/)
oltmanndCShaveRRDrovers' cabooses, for hauling the cowboys whose cattle was being shipped on that particular train.I was thinking mixed trains,
CShaveRRDrovers' cabooses, for hauling the cowboys whose cattle was being shipped on that particular train.
Texas Zepher oltmanndCShaveRRDrovers' cabooses, for hauling the cowboys whose cattle was being shipped on that particular train.I was thinking mixed trains, Drover's caboose is getting closer but I believe they are still officially classified as caboose. Oltmannd is thinking CORRECT. The red colored passenger cars were for BRANCH LINE service and used on mixed trains. The took the place of coach, caboose, and baggage and they were called ___________.
Ummm, combinations? - a.s.
Accommodations?
Cabbage cars?
Thanks to Chris / CopCarSS for my avatar.
Murphy Siding Cabbage cars?
Since Oltmannd guessed mixed trains instead of branch line. I'm giving the win to Murphy Siding, so take it away Murphy Siding.
A quickie. Locomotive backshops.
What city/town were the backshops for the following RRs: (circa 1970)
D&H (don't be fooled by the name of the shops)
LV
EL (there were two)
PC (there were two)
RDG
extra credit if you can give the current disposition
LV - Huntington shops in Easton PA
EL - Marion OH - Scranton PA - currently Steam Town
PC - Juniata/Altoona PA - currently used by NS - Beech Grove - currently used by Amtrak
RDG - Reading PA
D&H - Colonie shops in ____, NY (not Oneonta) The other big industry in this town makes (or at least made) big guns for the military. Currently leveled, I think.
LV - no
EL- Correct! Marion was ex-Erie, Scranton was DL&W and is now Steamtown. Conrail used it for some minor work for a few years before closing it. Marion was not used by Conrail - not sure if the structures are even there anymore.
PC - Juniata Locomotive Shop in Altoona currently NS's one and only backshop - correct! Beach Grove may have still been doing some minor backshop work in 1970, but the other main backshop was ______ Shops in __________, __. (think Water Level Route)
RDG - Reading, PA - Correct! This was Conrail's caboose shop and business car shop for many years. Not sure if many of buildings are still standing
Union Tank Car (UTLX) was using Erie's Marion, OH yard as a car repair/storage facility. Not sure if they are using any of the shops buildings.
The Colonie shops were in Schenectady. Wasn't the building damaged or destroyed by fire?
Weren't LV's shops in Sayre, Pennsylvania? I think they were taken over by North American Car for a while (whether GE Rail Services is still there I don't know). Or was Sayre the car shop and Binghamton, New York, the locomotive backshop?
PC's other shop was Collinwood, in Cleveland, Ohio.
Sayre was the LV backshop - correct! Don't know if GE Railcar is still there or not, either...
Colonie was not in Schenectady. The shop was on the old main that ran down the Hudson from Medhanicville. Anybody want to take a stab at it? A military guy would know this one...
Collinwood Shop were in metro Cleveland, actually in Collinwood, OH. Totally levelled in the 1990s. (though the running repair shop is still there) Close enough!
oltmanndColonie was not in Schenectady. The shop was on the old main that ran down the Hudson from Medhanicville. Anybody want to take a stab at it? A military guy would know this one...
Texas Zepher oltmanndColonie was not in Schenectady. The shop was on the old main that ran down the Hudson from Medhanicville. Anybody want to take a stab at it? A military guy would know this one...I believe you are looking for Watervliet. But what I don't understand is why all the news paper articles about the fire in March 2004 call it Colonie. It was also the Colonie Police and Fire units that responded to the call.
It was definitely Watervliet. The shops were just SW of the Arsenal, about a half dozen blocks from the Hudson. You can still see the shop floors on Google Maps, the buildings are gone. Definitely NOT Colonie which was much further to the southwest, between Albany and Schenectady, just west of I-87.
You're up!
Keeping with the theme of shops. And I hope there is only one instance of this ....
What City was home to two railroad shops which were owned by the same railroad? Both the shops are locomotive shops (two round houses, machine shops, etc.) though not necessarily considered the primary shops for this particular railroad. This was not the result of a merger.
Texas Zepher Keeping with the theme of shops. And I hope there is only one instance of this .... What City was home to two railroad shops which were owned by the same railroad? Both the shops are locomotive shops (two round houses, machine shops, etc.) though not necessarily considered the primary shops for this particular railroad. This was not the result of a merger.
The Illinois Central had two roundhouses and shops in Chicago. Passenger engines were serviced at the 23rd St. facility (about 1-1/2 miles south of Cenral Station) and freight locomotives were serviced at Markham Yard (the roundhouse was actually in E. Hazlecrest, a suburb of Chicago). Of course the IC's main locomotive shops were in Paducah, KY.
Mark
KCSfan Texas Zepher Keeping with the theme of shops. And I hope there is only one instance of this .... What City was home to two railroad shops which were owned by the same railroad? Both the shops are locomotive shops (two round houses, machine shops, etc.) though not necessarily considered the primary shops for this particular railroad. This was not the result of a merger. The Illinois Central had two roundhouses and shops in Chicago. Passenger engines were serviced at the 23rd St. facility (about 1-1/2 miles south of Cenral Station) and freight locomotives were serviced at Markham Yard (the roundhouse was actually in E. Hazlecrest, a suburb of Chicago). Of course the IC's main locomotive shops were in Paducah, KY. Mark
Altoona qualifies. There was the East Altoona shops. Complete roundhouse for running repairs and servicing. Not part of the Juniata Works which included the locomotive back shop, car shops, passenger shops, paint, test, etc.
Collinwood also qualifies the same way. Independently managed backshop accross the tracks and down the road a bit from the running repair and electric shops. I am sure there are others.
You have to mean within physical city limits. If metro area is allowed then there many more.
Did you mean two running repair shops in the same city?
From prior post: "Of course the IC's main locomotive shops were in Paducah, KY."
Okay, but what about Centralia, Illinois? - al
Well crumb. I didn't think it would be so common.... I am certain all of the answers are correct, but not the one I was thinking of. Don't know if I should switch questions or narrow it.
The city I am thinking of is less than 10,000 population, and is not a suburb of a major metropolitan area.
The city also was the home for the railroad's R&D facilities/laboratory.
Texas ZepherWhat City was home to two railroad shops which were owned by the same railroad? Both the shops are locomotive shops (two round houses, machine shops, etc.) though not necessarily considered the primary shops for this particular railroad. This was not the result of a merger. This town also housed the railroad R&D facilities.
KCSfan - you responded first. Your turn.
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