UP CNW Heritage Unit thread

[techguy57]

QUOTE: Originally posted by CShaveRR

July 15th at Ogilvie. That's all I have.

Thanks Carl! I hope to be there!

Just one question though: How are the gonna get it there without being seen?[?][:0]

Mike

[n012944]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Texas Zepher

QUOTE: Originally posted by n012944
Thats interesting considering that the UP reached Chicago thru the MP merger.

It is easy to forget the C&EI. I never think of the Mopac as going to Chicago, and I grew up in Mopac Land.

As a guy who grew up and lives in Chicagoland, I too forget about them down there.


Bert

[CNW 6000]

A bell on the nose would be too much to hope for! I'll send UP an email! LOL!

[Gluefinger]

QUOTE: Originally posted by techguy57

QUOTE: Originally posted by CShaveRR

July 15th at Ogilvie. That's all I have.

Thanks Carl! I hope to be there!

Just one question though: How are the gonna get it there without being seen?[?][:0]

Mike

Just like they did for 4 of the first 5- a lovely blue tarp.

[Chris30]

Hey CNW 6000, when you write UP an email asking for the bell on the nose why don't you add in a request for an amber strobe light on top!

Thanks,
CC

[techguy57]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Gluefinger

QUOTE: Originally posted by techguy57

QUOTE: Originally posted by CShaveRR

July 15th at Ogilvie. That's all I have.

Thanks Carl! I hope to be there!

Just one question though: How are the gonna get it there without being seen?[?][:0]

Mike

Just like they did for 4 of the first 5- a lovely blue tarp

Gotcha. Do they just tarp it above the trucks and deadhead it in on a freight to Proviso? Who gets to move it from there to Olgilve? Sorry, I'm feeling inquisitive today!

Mike

[Lord Atmo]

the DRGW unit looks as though there's some freight homage to it. the yellow body with the "Rio Grande" on the side. i swear i saw their hood units have that

oh oh and CNW6000, in the email, also request that part of it pay homage to the freight scheme. i, too, support the amber strobe idea. i never noticed the modern locomotives dont have that anymore

[wctransfer]

Gullable..............

The DRGW unit is not really a frieght scheme. They had that yellow scheme with black letters on the F units i believe. The frieght scheme had a black body and yellow lettering.

Alec

[CNW 6000]

Ok so that's one bell on the nose, an amber light up top, and homage to the freight scheme. Would you like that to go? LOL!

[Lord Atmo]

might wanna wait and see if anyone else wants you to add something. :P

DRGW was? dammit we only get one shot at seeing a new CNW locomotive ever again and i dont want it to be completely based on a carbody! i need something i can relate to from when i was 5 and saw the hood units go through the railroad by my old house every day

[Anonymous]

Somebody needs to illustrate some variations we can vote upon before it is offically announced.

Examples:

Full Passenger

Half Passenger-Half Freight

Half Early Freight-Half Late Freight.

Andrew N.F.

[Lord Atmo]

i dont see it fit to be a passenger scheme. UP bought them out when they were freight. i vote half passenger half late freight. use a heaping supply of zito. not that TY crap

[Anonymous]

im thinkin a mix of 50's streamline with a modern twist... kinda like the MP/UP1983
everyone thought the MKT/UP 1988 was gona be green and yellow.....
and everyone pretty much figured out wat UP/SP 1996 is gona look like with the Kick A$$ black widow paint
wish BNSF came out with some ATSF SLSF NP GN CB&Q be pretty kool

[Lord Atmo]

i'm sure UP will surprise us. i'm sure ex CNW workers may have some say in the design. now who wants to take me to chicago to see him get unveiled?

[CNW 6000]

I plan on goin'. I hope that it has some freight homage. Honestly...it'll say CNW on it so it's good in my book. As long as it isn't pink that is lol.

[Chris30]

Quote by Techguy57:

QUOTE: Do they just tarp it above the trucks and deadhead it in on a freight to Proviso? Who gets to move it from there to Olgilve?

My first guess would be the Cal Ave (Metra Coach Yard) switcher that moves cars between Cal Ave and OTC. The yard job used to venture all the way out to W Chicago to pickup bad-order Metra cars so Proviso is not that far out of the way.

Also, on a early post I alluded to a variation of green and yellow being the only paint scheme that CNW used. Don't forget that some of the early CNW diesel freight units were painted black and yellow.

CC

[Gluefinger]

1960s green dip job scheme, anyone?

QUOTE: Originally posted by techguy57
Gotcha. Do they just tarp it above the trucks and deadhead it in on a freight to Proviso? Who gets to move it from there to Olgilve? Sorry, I'm feeling inquisitive today!

For four releases of the Heritage Units, UP sent an engine from Proviso up to Butler to retrieve the engines and bring them south. They carried a special train symbol (SBUCB) and ran without other cars or engines. However, for the 1988 (Katy) it was simply tacked onto southbound train MSSPR and brought to Proviso.

QUOTE: Originally posted by Lord Atmo

i'm sure UP will surprise us. i'm sure ex CNW workers may have some say in the design. now who wants to take me to chicago to see him get unveiled?

All of the schemes were designed last year by special teams; not sure if any CNW people were involved.

[fuzzybroken]

QUOTE: Originally posted by CNW 6000

Ok so that's one bell on the nose, an amber light up top, and homage to the freight scheme. Would you like that to go? LOL!

Ack... the nose bell is pure-CNW (though DT&I had some as well), but the amber strobe was almost universal. So I vote no on the strobe!

[fuzzybroken]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Lord Atmo

Canary Yellow front half and Zito yellow back half? idont know if DRGW had mountain skylines painted n any of their old locomotives but if that was new to the heritzge unit, can anyone see the CNW one having Chicago's skyline on the cab? in a nice green?

No, Rio Grande never had any mountain skylines on their engines, that was part of their logo. Just like the Mopac eagle and the WP feather, and probably something from the Katy that I can't think of right now. If there's anything "different" on the CNW unit it will be the ball-and-bar logo. I just hope there's no Zito on it, I never thought it looked good and it looked worse after a short time out on the road... Then again, I think UP could do a very tasteful job of incorporating it in a minor role in the paint scheme!

[wcfan4ever]

I agree, I would love to see a bell on the nose of a new locomotive these days. But of course it could only be on the CNW painted loco, otherwise we have the whole bell on the nose going on again! But I gotta say...LOVE DA BELL!

[techguy57]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Chris30

Quote by Techguy57:

QUOTE: Do they just tarp it above the trucks and deadhead it in on a freight to Proviso? Who gets to move it from there to Olgilve?

My first guess would be the Cal Ave (Metra Coach Yard) switcher that moves cars between Cal Ave and OTC. The yard job used to venture all the way out to W Chicago to pickup bad-order Metra cars so Proviso is not that far out of the way.

Also, on a early post I alluded to a variation of green and yellow being the only paint scheme that CNW used. Don't forget that some of the early CNW diesel freight units were painted black and yellow.

CC

I'd love to see both of those things happen!

[:D]Mike

[CNW 6000]

I sent the email today asking if they'd be having a bell on the nose. If I hear anything back I'll post it here. Start prayin' and crossin' your fingers!

[chicagorails]

and 2 air tanks on the rooof !!!

[Gluefinger]

GP35s and GP/SD9s don´t cut it to be a CNW spotting feature IMHO

[METRO]

I'm hoping they bring back the nose pinstriping that was on the commuter F-units in the 1950s.

So far all of the heritages I've seen have been very geometrical in their design, I'd like to see something a bit more retro and a bit more organic on the CNW, but that's just my two cents.

Cheers!
~METRO

[UPTRAIN]

Here ya go: http://trainiax.net/drawings/cd/cd-zpcnw9008.gif .

[CNW 6000]

QUOTE: Originally posted by UPTRAIN

Here ya go: http://trainiax.net/drawings/cd/cd-zpcnw9008.gif .

Beautiful! Can you do a smaller one w/white background?

[Anonymous]

CHICAGO AND NORTH WESTERN could be spelled out in a contrasting color on the long hood.

Andrew

[Anonymous]

I'll bet it'll look something like this:

1. It will most definantly have the ball and bar on it, most likely in it's usual spot on the cab.

2. It will either have the safety stripes on the nose (like the early paint scheme) or the "Chrysler" type logo, used on the F and E units in passenger service (and the executive Fs).

3. There will most likely be an incorporation of the lightning stripe somewhere on the engine.

4. I'll toss my hat in for it saying "Route Of The 400" on the longhood.

But who knows, UP could suprise us all and paint it BN cascade green and black with white stripes and a ball and bar on the cab like their ex BN SD45s!!!![:p] JK

[Glen Ellyn]

Alright, picture this. The grey from the DRGW herritage unit on the cab/nose. A yellow body with the traditional green on the top. The traditional CNW symbol, and under that it will say U.P. Then the number on the body. And if they want to make it really fance, they will add a blue wave down the body.
OR!, the UP will supperise us and show off the two remaining Dash 9's. [:D]