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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, November 29, 2003 10:24 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by ACL Fan


Now this is funny.

"Devoted to beginners" now?

Not according to people posting on the "Best Magazine" thread; they're complaining that it's ALL "wow" factor and no basic how-to.

Amazing how perceptions can differ, ain't it?


Hmm... maybe I should explain my perspective.

I've read about 98% of the MR's ever published, so my views arn't based on the last ten years worth of magazines or anything. Given that, I like to look for articles that push people towards realism in their modeling.

Take a recent article by Tony Thompson about moving the trucks on a CB&Q caboose farther inward in order to run the car on tighter curves. How much inspiration is there when the head editor is taking a nice prototypical Walther's caboose, and making it unprototypical by moving the trucks inward and cutting corresponding details off the side sill of the caboose?

MR used to be about converting 3-rail toys into 2-rail models, about adding details and bashing readily available models into better representations of real life, about creating real life in miniature. Now they are including articles about moving backwards when the market supplys better models to start with? What's the deal?
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Posted by Hawks05 on Saturday, November 29, 2003 10:19 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by ACL Fan

QUOTE: Originally posted by skibbs4

Why bring back Student Fare when the whole magazine is devoted to beginners now?

If MR went back to publishing the best of the best and stopped dumbing down their content in an attempt to gain readership, then there would be more of a need for Student Fare type content. Right now, all the articles are shorter, less detail is given, articles are of a more basic nature, and in an attempt to make all articles as widespread as possible, everything feels washed out.

I think MR needs to rekindle some WOW factor, and show everyone some amazing modeling so that we can dream about being better modelers and then work to become better modelers. Give us something to strive for.

Mike Skibbe
www.cgwrr.com




Now this is funny.

"Devoted to beginners" now?

Not according to people posting on the "Best Magazine" thread; they're complaining that it's ALL "wow" factor and no basic how-to.

Amazing how perceptions can differ, ain't it?


i have 2 MR magazines and so far from the 2 i've learned 1 thing. well i haven't read it but i know i will later. its about weathering. other wise the rest i don't need. its all wow factor to me since i'm beginning. i'd like to see a student section for sure. that would be nice. get to see what people my age are doing instead of people twice my age who are more experienced and have been in the hobby for 20-30+ years.
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, November 29, 2003 10:03 PM
Originally posted by seacoast
[ How about a monthly picture of a student, Elementary, Middle or High School aged in the side bar columns instead of another obiturary ( soon the train hobby will be going that way)

OOOOOOOHhhhhhhhh soooooo true!!!
I dont think I would have put it quite that way, because we do owe homage to those that have shaped the hobby so far, but I do agree with the thought! My sons are fledgling hobbiests, and I try to point out stuff in MR that might interest them, but they view MR as an "old man's" magazine. Nothing really reaches out to them past the layout photos. Then I think back to when I was thier ages (@1973). I remember student fare fondly. It's one thing for a 14 year old to look at something that an adult did, and say wow, but it's quite another to look at something one of thier peers did and say WOW!
While were at it, how about bringing Paint Shop back!
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, November 29, 2003 10:02 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by skibbs4

Why bring back Student Fare when the whole magazine is devoted to beginners now?

If MR went back to publishing the best of the best and stopped dumbing down their content in an attempt to gain readership, then there would be more of a need for Student Fare type content. Right now, all the articles are shorter, less detail is given, articles are of a more basic nature, and in an attempt to make all articles as widespread as possible, everything feels washed out.

I think MR needs to rekindle some WOW factor, and show everyone some amazing modeling so that we can dream about being better modelers and then work to become better modelers. Give us something to strive for.

Mike Skibbe
www.cgwrr.com




Now this is funny.

"Devoted to beginners" now?

Not according to people posting on the "Best Magazine" thread; they're complaining that it's ALL "wow" factor and no basic how-to.

Amazing how perceptions can differ, ain't it?
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, November 29, 2003 10:00 PM
Why bring back Student Fare when the whole magazine is devoted to beginners now?

If MR went back to publishing the best of the best and stopped dumbing down their content in an attempt to gain readership, then there would be more of a need for Student Fare type content. Right now, all the articles are shorter, less detail is given, articles are of a more basic nature, and in an attempt to make all articles as widespread as possible, everything feels washed out.

I think MR needs to rekindle some WOW factor, and show everyone some amazing modeling so that we can dream about being better modelers and then work to become better modelers. Give us something to strive for.

Mike Skibbe
www.cgwrr.com

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Posted by seacoast on Saturday, November 29, 2003 9:19 PM
Yes,
As a long time reader of MR in the 1970's ( as a kid) I would go right to
student fare. You could change the name to something more "hip", but the
model train industry needs new people and our youngsters are the ones
who would benefit from this and so would we ! What is the average age of the MR reader ( 40 something or older) ?I wonder what the average age of Classic Toy Train readers are, 50, 55 or older? or OGR Magazine probally the same,time to get the kids back into the magazine. How about a monthly picture of a student, Elementary, Middle or High School aged in the side bar columns instead of another obiturary ( soon the train hobby will be going that way) WGH does an ok job but a more consistent monthly focus is needed.
George
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Posted by AggroJones on Saturday, November 29, 2003 9:00 PM
I vote yes. They need to work on bringing more youths into model railroading. I don't know why they stopped Student Fare anyway.

"Being misunderstood is the fate of all true geniuses"

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, November 29, 2003 8:57 PM
Because the "Worlds Greatest Hobby" needs to attract some fresh blood...
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, November 29, 2003 8:43 PM
I vote YES.

But I liked the 70s-80s version which included real articles more than the Andy Anderson-type with snippets of letters.
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Student Fare!
Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, November 29, 2003 8:41 PM
Please vote as to whether or not you would like Student Fare to return to Model Railroader.

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