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Posted by aloco on Tuesday, March 13, 2007 2:13 AM

I prefer rolling stock that was built in the 1930s, 1940s, and 1950s.  The only 'modern' freight cars I like are the round-ended tank cars, especially the whale bodies.

I don't like container cars, especially unit trains of container cars.  

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Tuesday, March 13, 2007 1:33 AM
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For my dining car turned trackside diner I simply removed the trucks, blocked it up like you would a mobile home and put in steps and a wheelchair ramp.
You are talking about a shorty passenger car here, right?   I can visualize a 34', or even a 50 footer in this service, but it seems a full sized 80' car might look silly set up on blocks.
Mostly it depends on how it's set up. If it's viewed broadside on it looks pretty long, but if it's set at an angle, it doesn't look to be so long. One way to set it up could be to leave the trucks on it and have it sitting on it's own piece of track. I saw this approach used on a real diner in New Mexico or Arizona years ago. The wheels were welded to the rails so there was no possibility of it rolling.

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Posted by SOU Fan on Monday, March 12, 2007 10:58 PM

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I dislike passenger cars, period. There are passenger cars on my layout. One is a baggage car set up as a storage building, the second is a dining car set up as a trackside diner and the third is an office car on a MoW train.

Sign - Ditto [#ditto] on the passenger cars.  I have never liked them never will. 

I do like 86' boxcars and flats though.

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Posted by Metro Red Line on Monday, March 12, 2007 10:35 PM

I don't like coil cars. I don't know why. Other gondolas are cool.

I also have no interest in anything with a roofwalk. Nothing against them, I just don't model that stuff. Is my modern era bias showing? :) I do like steam locos (the bigger the better) and wouldn't mind modeling a classic steam-era passenger train (i,e, the Daylight, UP City of ____, etc) just because. but steam/transition era freights don't interest me at all.

 

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Posted by Texas Zepher on Monday, March 12, 2007 10:21 PM
 jeffrey-wimberly wrote:
For my dining car turned trackside diner I simply removed the trucks, blocked it up like you would a mobile home and put in steps and a wheelchair ramp.
You are talking about a shorty passenger car here, right?   I can visualize a 34', or even a 50 footer in this service, but it seems a full sized 80' car might look silly set up on blocks.
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Posted by twhite on Monday, March 12, 2007 4:57 PM

In the era that I model (WWII) I like 'em all.  Even those silly-looking Heinz pickle cars!

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Monday, March 12, 2007 4:30 PM
 AltoonaRailroader wrote:

I'm not too hip on passenger cars either at this point, but your ability to turn them into trackside buildings is interesting to me. I have an old Chinese HO scale metro car that won't run, hehe, even though the track is made in China. LOL

Anyhow, could you throw me some pointers or point me in the right direction about how to do this. My wife is an artist so I'm going to approach her about it tonight. Maybe we'll make a trackside Chinese resturant out of it. LOL

 

Thanks for the inspiration.

For my dining car turned trackside diner I simply removed the trucks, blocked it up like you would a mobile home and put in steps and a wheelchair ramp. The actual kitchen is in a small building attached to the diner. A little parking area out in front and an appropriate sign on the top and a couple of little signs in front complete the scene.

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Posted by PFS on Monday, March 12, 2007 3:42 PM

Seems a lot of folks dont like dirty/usefull rolling stock.

I cant get enought of gons/coil cars.

But I do agree that 200 bathtub gons make a boring train, in any scale.

I cant say I hate any rolling stock, but personally I have no use for passenger cars of any type.

 

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Posted by SunsetLimited on Monday, March 12, 2007 3:39 PM
I hate any rolling stock with a roof walk, most of that old equiptment is boring, small, usually some ugly shade of brown with some cheesy slogan on the side. Much prefer the 60ft auto parts cars and the modern passenger stuff.
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Posted by AltoonaRailroader on Monday, March 12, 2007 3:20 PM

I'm not too hip on passenger cars either at this point, but your ability to turn them into trackside buildings is interesting to me. I have an old Chinese HO scale metro car that won't run, hehe, even though the track is made in China. LOL

Anyhow, could you throw me some pointers or point me in the right direction about how to do this. My wife is an artist so I'm going to approach her about it tonight. Maybe we'll make a trackside Chinese resturant out of it. LOL

 

Thanks for the inspiration.

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, March 11, 2007 8:33 PM

86' Autoparts boxcars.

Watching one of these swing around a 18" or less radius curve at the LHS years ago pretty much pernamently programmed me NOT to buy these cars EVER. The Overhang on both ends and the middle was something out of this world.

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Posted by soumodeler on Sunday, March 11, 2007 6:24 PM
Ah. Thanks.
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Posted by selector on Sunday, March 11, 2007 5:43 PM

 There she be.  The woman in the foreground is She. Smile [:)] 

 

 

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Posted by soumodeler on Sunday, March 11, 2007 5:42 PM

We went to Victoria last summer and I saw it in the distance, but didn't get a good look at it. I appreciate it.

 

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Posted by selector on Sunday, March 11, 2007 5:27 PM
Ill have to find them and upload to railimages, but I will do that and get back to you later today.
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Posted by soumodeler on Sunday, March 11, 2007 4:41 PM
 selector wrote:

Last summer, I got to ride on the E&N Ry Dayliner that runs daily, 7/52, between Victoria and Courtenay.  I must say, and perhaps it was due to the exposure and to learning a bit about its history, and maybe because I had walked many km of an abandoned right of way the previous summer to cross and photograph some trestles, that I warmed up to them.  Also, when I am out in my garden, even though  they are about 10 km away, when they sound their horns entering and leaving Courtenay, at the many crossings, it reminds me of the trip.

So, since Trainworld and other places are blowing them out, and that they seem to have good reviews....hmmmm.  Dang, I wish you hadn't posted that.

Selector, you wouldn't happen to have any pictures of that would you? 

 

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Sunday, March 11, 2007 4:32 PM

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As far as model railroading equipment goes I really hate the Athearn BB tank cars because the coupler pockets don't hold up well.  The couplers always end up drooping and eventually catching a glad hand and poping out.   I hate all Roundhouse freight cars with the pot-metal frames because they don't hold the body on well, and the coupler pocket screws always strip out and have to be re-tapped for a real 2-56 screw.
BRAVO! BRAVO!

I don't use those Athearn tank cars for that very reason and after some nightmares with the cheap MDC/Roundhouse cars, I avoid them like the plague.

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Posted by R. T. POTEET on Sunday, March 11, 2007 4:29 PM
 Tracklayer wrote:

Hi gang. I was just looking through one of my model train catalogs, and came across a sales ad and photo of a covered gondola. No offense to those that like them, but that's one type of car I can live without. To me, they look like a box car that's been crushed down...

So is there any type of rolling stock that you don't like ?.

Tracklayer  



I don't like cars which don't stay on the track.

Seriously, however, covered gons would probably not be my favorite either but I could live with them; the same thing holds true with coil cars.  I have absolutely no use for milk cars particularly those which look like bathtub steamliners which didn't quite make it. My era of modelling puts ice-hatch reefers out but that is just an anachronistic technicality; the same thing holds true for stock-cars - they just don't fit my era and theme.

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Posted by Texas Zepher on Sunday, March 11, 2007 4:13 PM

 Tracklayer wrote:
So is there any type of rolling stock that you don't like?
Lets see.

1. I've never liked the looks of the high-cube box cars whether they are 40' or 86'. They just look stupid.
2. There is one kind of air slide covered hopper that has pairs of hoppers oriented lengthwise.
3. A six bay covered hopper, that has some sort of injection air cylinders along the bottom.
4. The new 60' box cars are just - ummm boring, but I can't say I don't LIKE them.
5. I agree with the others on the railrunners.  Once again they just look - wrong.
6. I also agree about the Dooglebugs and RDCs.
7.

As far as model railroading equipment goes I really hate the Athearn BB tank cars because the coupler pockets don't hold up well.  The couplers always end up drooping and eventually catching a glad hand and poping out.   I hate all Roundhouse freight cars with the pot-metal frames because they don't hold the body on well, and the coupler pocket screws always strip out and have to be re-tapped for a real 2-56 screw.

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Posted by tomikawaTT on Sunday, March 11, 2007 2:24 PM
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It's not that I don't like them, it's that the question, "Why don't you have a Bullet Train?" has gotten REALLY old!
The JNR Shinkansen (the only route where Bullet trains could be found in 1964) was (and is) a couple of mountain ranges south of my prototype area of interest. 
Chuck (modeling Central Japan in September, 1964 - sans Bullet Trains)

Well, how about adding a big billboard (with colorful 60s style Japanese supergraphics) telling everyone to take the 'Bullet train' to the Tokyo Summer Olympics (which was in October of 1964...those wacky Japanese and their Autumn Summer Olympics), perhaps with a route map which you can use to show those trouble-makers that the line does NOT run near the area you model.

If there was a practical way to get to a Shinkansen station closer to Tokyo than Nagoya (which is 125km down the line - in the wrong direction) that would be possible.  Unfortunately, the only Shinkansen station in the direction of Tokyo with easy access is - you guessed it - Tokyo!  Also, we are talking about a REALLY rural area with a rather meager population base.  Such a billboard would have been deemed non-cost-effective.

OTOH, a billboard advertising the Olympic Games (which took place in October) WOULD be appropriate.  Thanks for a good idea!

Chuck (modeling Central Japan in September, 1964) 

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Posted by jecorbett on Sunday, March 11, 2007 2:01 PM

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I don't know what they're called, but I've never been a fan of those "self-propelled" passenger cars - half Pullman, half subway engine. Yuck!Dead [xx(]

Are you referring to doodlebugs or RDCs. I would agree with you on RDCs. They don't have a lot of character. But doodlebugs are another matter. They will be serving my branchline if and when I ever get it built. RMC even has a story about converting the Bachmann doodlebug to two way operation. Doodlebugs can serve as single car passenger trains on lightly traveled branclines and can even haul a coach or two and or freight cars. Typically they had a combine configuration with passenger seats in the rear, the baggage section up front. The would handle mail and express shipments as well. I think they are one of the most interesting pieces of equipment we can run and a great choice for small layouts.

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Posted by loathar on Sunday, March 11, 2007 1:16 PM

 TA462 wrote:
I don't really like the big 86' box cars. 

Sign - Ditto [#ditto] I saw some HO versions of those at an LHS and I thought they where S gauge. They look WAY too big in model form compared to the prototypes.

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Posted by Bill H. on Sunday, March 11, 2007 12:34 PM
 Don Z wrote:
 Bill H. wrote:

BTW: For the FRONTRUNNER "fans." 

 http://www.rideuta.com/calendarAndNews/commuterRail/

Bill H., this is the Front Runner I was referring to....

http://www.walthers.com/exec/productinfo/932-39813

Don Z.

 

Hmmm... OK, I always thought of those as TOFC (trailer on flat car) Oh well, my bad. I'll go to my room now.

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Posted by Hoople on Sunday, March 11, 2007 12:15 PM
The new "Piggy Back Loader".
That takes some talent.
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Posted by selector on Sunday, March 11, 2007 12:11 PM

 stokesda wrote:
I don't know what they're called, but I've never been a fan of those "self-propelled" passenger cars - half Pullman, half subway engine. Yuck!Dead [xx(]

You know, I was never much of a keener for them either.  They looked like part of a passenger consist that got cut out and a couple of kids somehow got it loose and were taking it for a ride with a slight grade accommodating them.

Last summer, I got to ride on the E&N Ry Dayliner that runs daily, 7/52, between Victoria and Courtenay.  I must say, and perhaps it was due to the exposure and to learning a bit about its history, and maybe because I had walked many km of an abandoned right of way the previous summer to cross and photograph some trestles, that I warmed up to them.  Also, when I am out in my garden, even though  they are about 10 km away, when they sound their horns entering and leaving Courtenay, at the many crossings, it reminds me of the trip.

So, since Trainworld and other places are blowing them out, and that they seem to have good reviews....hmmmm.  Dang, I wish you hadn't posted that.

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Posted by on30francisco on Sunday, March 11, 2007 11:42 AM
I'm not too crazy about most contempory pieces of rolling stock. Although the prototypes are very efficient and functional, I find them boring compared to older equipment. Modern passenger cars are also blah although the prototypes are comfortable to ride in (exception being Caltrain).
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Posted by stokesda on Sunday, March 11, 2007 11:25 AM
I don't know what they're called, but I've never been a fan of those "self-propelled" passenger cars - half Pullman, half subway engine. Yuck!Dead [xx(]

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Posted by chutton01 on Sunday, March 11, 2007 10:46 AM

 tomikawaTT wrote:
It's not that I don't like them, it's that the question, "Why don't you have a Bullet Train?" has gotten REALLY old!
The JNR Shinkansen (the only route where Bullet trains could be found in 1964) was (and is) a couple of mountain ranges south of my prototype area of interest. 
Chuck (modeling Central Japan in September, 1964 - sans Bullet Trains)

Well, how about adding a big billboard (with colorful 60s style Japanese supergraphics) telling everyone to take the 'Bullet train' to the Tokyo Summer Olympics (which was in October of 1964...those wacky Japanese and their Autumn Summer Olympics), perhaps with a route map which you can use to show those trouble-makers that the line does NOT run near the area you model.

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Posted by Don Z on Sunday, March 11, 2007 10:23 AM
 Bill H. wrote:

BTW: For the FRONTRUNNER "fans." 

 http://www.rideuta.com/calendarAndNews/commuterRail/

Bill H., this is the Front Runner I was referring to....

http://www.walthers.com/exec/productinfo/932-39813

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Posted by WCfan on Sunday, March 11, 2007 10:22 AM

I've seen WC use some old BN coal hoppers for ore. I also kinda like the CN grain hoppers.  I Hate the really early caboses. I also hate the Electro Motives BL Locomotives. Those are rare locos. I've see them at Green Bay WI. 

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