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Is there any type of rolling stock you don't like ?...
Posted by Tracklayer on Sunday, March 11, 2007 1:53 AM

Hi gang. I was just looking through one of my model train catalogs, and came across a sales ad and photo of a covered gondola. No offense to those that like them, but that's one type of car I can live without. To me, they look like a box car that's been crushed down...

So is there any type of rolling stock that you don't like ?.

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Posted by selector on Sunday, March 11, 2007 2:22 AM

The Canadian style grain hoppers.  They do nothing for me.

Flat cars and tankers are my favourites, although I like the N&W style coal hoppers.  Boxcars are okay, too.

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Posted by bb4884 on Sunday, March 11, 2007 2:41 AM
I have no idea why, but I hate tankers. Rolling Molotov cocktails if you ask meGrumpy [|(]
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Posted by Tracklayer on Sunday, March 11, 2007 3:41 AM
 selector wrote:

The Canadian style grain hoppers.  They do nothing for me.

Flat cars and tankers are my favourites, although I like the N&W style coal hoppers.  Boxcars are okay, too.

Hi selector. Are you talking about the cylinderical hoppers ?.

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Posted by Tracklayer on Sunday, March 11, 2007 3:43 AM

 bb4884 wrote:
I have no idea why, but I hate tankers. Rolling Molotov cocktails if you ask meGrumpy [|(]

Awww bb4884. Come on man... Tankers are among my favorites.

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Sunday, March 11, 2007 4:02 AM
I dislike passenger cars, period. There are passenger cars on my layout. One is a baggage car set up as a storage building, the second is a dining car set up as a trackside diner and the third is an office car on a MoW train.

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Posted by selector on Sunday, March 11, 2007 4:06 AM
 Tracklayer wrote:
 selector wrote:

The Canadian style grain hoppers.  They do nothing for me.

Flat cars and tankers are my favourites, although I like the N&W style coal hoppers.  Boxcars are okay, too.

Hi selector. Are you talking about the cylinderical hoppers ?.

Tracklayer

Yes, Tracklayer, I don't like their looks.  The don't have any "character".

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Posted by jasperofzeal on Sunday, March 11, 2007 5:09 AM

I like all freight cars, they are all unique and serve a purpose.  However, that doesn't mean I don't quesition the purpose of some of them.  For example, ore cars, with their small size, I don't see the purpose if a larger car can have more capacity than the smaller car.  I guess it has something to do with weight limitation along the lines they serve on, but still, not that I don't like them, they're just my least favorite.

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Posted by Tracklayer on Sunday, March 11, 2007 5:22 AM

 jeffrey-wimberly wrote:
I dislike passenger cars, period. There are passenger cars on my layout. One is a baggage car set up as a storage building, the second is a dining car set up as a trackside diner and the third is an office car on a MoW train.

Jeffrey, you ain't right man, but I'll pray for you (ha, ha)...

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Posted by IRONROOSTER on Sunday, March 11, 2007 6:54 AM

Nope, I like them all.   Some more than others, but if it fits my time period then it can go on my layout.  And if anyone ever makes a Stilwell oyster car in S I'll get it, even though it really is too early for my time period.

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Posted by BRAKIE on Sunday, March 11, 2007 8:04 AM
Flat cars..I hated them as a brakeman and I hate 'em as a model.

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Posted by jecorbett on Sunday, March 11, 2007 8:10 AM
Just about anything modern. An exception for Amtrak Superliners. Of course, they're not that modern since I rode them when they first came out in the 1970s which is why I like them. I like 40 boxcars with roof walks, short tankers, and flat cars that are truly flat. You can have the 86 foot hi-cube boxcars and the container flats. I do like modern day cabooses. Oh wait, you don't have modern day cabooses. My bad.
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Posted by jasperofzeal on Sunday, March 11, 2007 8:29 AM

 jecorbett wrote:

Oh wait, you don't have modern day cabooses. My bad.

I believe his name is FRED. Smile [:)]

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Posted by MOJAX on Sunday, March 11, 2007 9:01 AM
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Posted by Kurt_Laughlin on Sunday, March 11, 2007 9:33 AM
 jasperofzeal wrote:

However, that doesn't mean I don't quesition the purpose of some of them.  For example, ore cars, with their small size, I don't see the purpose if a larger car can have more capacity than the smaller car.  I guess it has something to do with weight limitation along the lines they serve on, but still, not that I don't like them, they're just my least favorite.

The problem is really with the people, not the cars or track.  Ore is usually much denser than the lading larger hoppers are designed around: coal.  If coal hoppers were used for ore (and this has been tried) in short order the operators start filling the hoppers to the maximum volume rather than the rated load capacity, resulting in damage to the cars and track.

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Posted by RedGrey62 on Sunday, March 11, 2007 9:44 AM

I'd have to go with modern bathtub gons.  Since I model the 60's, no problem on the layout.  I just really dislike being overjoyed at getting stopped for a train and then disappointed when I see a hundred or so coal cars with no character and the only thing differenciating them is the car number.

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Posted by soumodeler on Sunday, March 11, 2007 10:02 AM

Anything without "Southern" painted on it.Bow [bow]

But seriously, I don't like Front Runners. They look funny. I like intermodal, but not them.

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Posted by Don Z on Sunday, March 11, 2007 10:03 AM

Sign - Ditto [#ditto] on the Front Runners....never liked 'em, never will.

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Posted by Bill H. on Sunday, March 11, 2007 10:03 AM

Any frieght car longer than 50'

 Also-- Circus cars in ANY form.

 

BTW: For the FRONTRUNNER "fans." 

 http://www.rideuta.com/calendarAndNews/commuterRail/

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Posted by tomikawaTT on Sunday, March 11, 2007 10:05 AM

It's not that I don't like them, it's that the question, "Why don't you have a Bullet Train?" has gotten REALLY old!

The JNR Shinkansen (the only route where Bullet trains could be found in 1964) was (and is) a couple of mountain ranges south of my prototype area of interest.  Even if it ran through the Kiso Valley I wouldn't model it.  Different track gauge, dedicated (ugly) right-of-way, plus no valid reason to have a station - just a blur rocketing through every 30 (scale) minutes.  BOORRING!!!

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Posted by WCfan on Sunday, March 11, 2007 10:22 AM

I've seen WC use some old BN coal hoppers for ore. I also kinda like the CN grain hoppers.  I Hate the really early caboses. I also hate the Electro Motives BL Locomotives. Those are rare locos. I've see them at Green Bay WI. 

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Posted by Don Z on Sunday, March 11, 2007 10:23 AM
 Bill H. wrote:

BTW: For the FRONTRUNNER "fans." 

 http://www.rideuta.com/calendarAndNews/commuterRail/

Bill H., this is the Front Runner I was referring to....

http://www.walthers.com/exec/productinfo/932-39813

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Posted by chutton01 on Sunday, March 11, 2007 10:46 AM

 tomikawaTT wrote:
It's not that I don't like them, it's that the question, "Why don't you have a Bullet Train?" has gotten REALLY old!
The JNR Shinkansen (the only route where Bullet trains could be found in 1964) was (and is) a couple of mountain ranges south of my prototype area of interest. 
Chuck (modeling Central Japan in September, 1964 - sans Bullet Trains)

Well, how about adding a big billboard (with colorful 60s style Japanese supergraphics) telling everyone to take the 'Bullet train' to the Tokyo Summer Olympics (which was in October of 1964...those wacky Japanese and their Autumn Summer Olympics), perhaps with a route map which you can use to show those trouble-makers that the line does NOT run near the area you model.

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Posted by stokesda on Sunday, March 11, 2007 11:25 AM
I don't know what they're called, but I've never been a fan of those "self-propelled" passenger cars - half Pullman, half subway engine. Yuck!Dead [xx(]

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Posted by on30francisco on Sunday, March 11, 2007 11:42 AM
I'm not too crazy about most contempory pieces of rolling stock. Although the prototypes are very efficient and functional, I find them boring compared to older equipment. Modern passenger cars are also blah although the prototypes are comfortable to ride in (exception being Caltrain).
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Posted by selector on Sunday, March 11, 2007 12:11 PM

 stokesda wrote:
I don't know what they're called, but I've never been a fan of those "self-propelled" passenger cars - half Pullman, half subway engine. Yuck!Dead [xx(]

You know, I was never much of a keener for them either.  They looked like part of a passenger consist that got cut out and a couple of kids somehow got it loose and were taking it for a ride with a slight grade accommodating them.

Last summer, I got to ride on the E&N Ry Dayliner that runs daily, 7/52, between Victoria and Courtenay.  I must say, and perhaps it was due to the exposure and to learning a bit about its history, and maybe because I had walked many km of an abandoned right of way the previous summer to cross and photograph some trestles, that I warmed up to them.  Also, when I am out in my garden, even though  they are about 10 km away, when they sound their horns entering and leaving Courtenay, at the many crossings, it reminds me of the trip.

So, since Trainworld and other places are blowing them out, and that they seem to have good reviews....hmmmm.  Dang, I wish you hadn't posted that.

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Posted by Hoople on Sunday, March 11, 2007 12:15 PM
The new "Piggy Back Loader".
That takes some talent.
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Posted by Bill H. on Sunday, March 11, 2007 12:34 PM
 Don Z wrote:
 Bill H. wrote:

BTW: For the FRONTRUNNER "fans." 

 http://www.rideuta.com/calendarAndNews/commuterRail/

Bill H., this is the Front Runner I was referring to....

http://www.walthers.com/exec/productinfo/932-39813

Don Z.

 

Hmmm... OK, I always thought of those as TOFC (trailer on flat car) Oh well, my bad. I'll go to my room now.

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Posted by loathar on Sunday, March 11, 2007 1:16 PM

 TA462 wrote:
I don't really like the big 86' box cars. 

Sign - Ditto [#ditto] I saw some HO versions of those at an LHS and I thought they where S gauge. They look WAY too big in model form compared to the prototypes.

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Posted by jecorbett on Sunday, March 11, 2007 2:01 PM

 stokesda wrote:
I don't know what they're called, but I've never been a fan of those "self-propelled" passenger cars - half Pullman, half subway engine. Yuck!Dead [xx(]

Are you referring to doodlebugs or RDCs. I would agree with you on RDCs. They don't have a lot of character. But doodlebugs are another matter. They will be serving my branchline if and when I ever get it built. RMC even has a story about converting the Bachmann doodlebug to two way operation. Doodlebugs can serve as single car passenger trains on lightly traveled branclines and can even haul a coach or two and or freight cars. Typically they had a combine configuration with passenger seats in the rear, the baggage section up front. The would handle mail and express shipments as well. I think they are one of the most interesting pieces of equipment we can run and a great choice for small layouts.

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