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Posted by selector on Monday, July 23, 2007 11:17 AM

Sue, unless I am mistaken, the term "mallet" applies to those articulated locomotives, of which the simple steam Challenger and Big Boy are parts, to those locomotives that use steam in succession between two banks of cylinders.

The "simple" steamers, Big Boys among them, have the two banks of cylinders as do the Mallets, but in the simple steam, each bank gets high pressure steam from the boiler.  In the case of the Mallets, only the rear cylinders enjoy the highest pressure steam.  When the cylinder evacuates itself on the exhuast strokes, it forces the now cooler and less dense steam to move forward along conduits toward the much larger front cylinders for their use.  If you look closely at the cylinders on each type of articulated locomotive, the front ones on the Mallets are larger than those on the rear.  This is to provide a larger piston cross-section for the less powerful second-hand steam to apply the maximum force to contribute towards the locomotive's effort.

I believe the N&W Y6b could operate in both simple and compound modes, with the latter providing the greatest tractive effort upwards of 150K lbs.  I believe that it was the highest of all the big steamers.

I want one. Tongue [:P]

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Monday, July 23, 2007 3:57 PM

Found this on page two.

I'll have a cheeseburger.

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Posted by bjdukert on Monday, July 23, 2007 4:20 PM

Ryan

Garry I would love to go to Detroit and cook for you guys, but does that mean your paying my way too?
I know where there is a room that you could use for your stay at no cost if there is cooking involved. Approve [^]Smile [:)]Yeah!! [yeah]Dinner [dinner]Dinner [dinner]

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Posted by Cederstrand on Monday, July 23, 2007 6:22 PM

 Please & Thank You!

How do you know your wife (or girl friend) loves you? It's the little things, like today at the grocery store when she placed a Model Railroader Mag. into the cart. Looking forward to reading through it later. Yep, I'm a lucky man!

Jeffrey, I am definitely going to try out your method for lettering. Thanks for the process details.

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Posted by Cederstrand on Monday, July 23, 2007 6:23 PM

Oh, looks like I'm buying this evening. Looks like there is a special on ice cream sundays!

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Posted by grayfox1119 on Monday, July 23, 2007 6:28 PM

Good evening......cloudy, showers, and now heavy fog, a chilly NE wind at 6 mph, and 62F. Transfered all the photos from the railfan trip to Webshots site, now I have a few from the Diamond in Palmer, Ma in the process of xfer while I am in the Diner. We had a single engine plane land on I495 this afternoon at rush hour, the pilot did a great job, no one injured at rush hour traffic levels.

JEFF: That is a great way to make decals, it really looks great, I'll have to make note of this method!!!

COLBY: That was quite an experience for you, and it sounds like the RR did quite well with all those riders!

FERGIE: Now what did you do ???  Did you get into a scuffle in the Diner trying to take the last piece of pie?? 

DUKE: You are supposed to keep an eye on Fergie!

PC: I am glad to hear that your son is taking an interest in MRR, it's great when family members share the action and fun together.

TIFN

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Posted by Txrailnut07 on Monday, July 23, 2007 7:37 PM
Howdy strangers!!!!!
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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Monday, July 23, 2007 7:44 PM
Howdy, howdy, how do you do?

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Posted by Paul W. Beverung on Monday, July 23, 2007 8:11 PM

Evening Gang: Not much going on except it's raining. We've had an inch and a half so far and it's still coming down. The creek wasn't running high when we came home but that was a couple of hours ago. If it keeps up I'll probably get to clean out the creek crossing again. Oh joy.

Sue the Mallet is a compound articulated as such as the Y-3. It was a powerfull but slow locomotive. The simple articulated like the Challenger and Big Boy were much faster. This was due in large part to the large size of the low pressure cylinders. There was so much mass moving in the low pressure cylinders that ballancing at high speed was impossible.

I guess we just can't leave Fergie alone for a second. The next time we want to start a war we'll send him.

well we have an early breakfast date with our neighbors. It's at 8 am, early for us. so I'll hit the sack.

Good Night All

 

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Posted by der5997 on Monday, July 23, 2007 9:28 PM

Good evening Diners:

I’ve heard again from krump in B.C. about Phil Baker. Here’s his news.

Hi John, Sad news. Phil passed away this morning. The family will continue to need prayer support as they adjust to these changes. His wife's name is Jocelyn.
Thanks for all who were praying for him, I guess now it’s his family who need to be in our thoughts. Angel [angel]

Jeff: Thanks for the home made decal tutorial. Just what I need to do the Maritime Trunk locos when the time comes.Bow [bow] finding that thin airmail paper may be a challenge, I’ll try Staples first, I guess. So, the colour that appears on the monitor is irrelevant, it’s the colour value of the scanned image in MSPaint that does the trick. Good to know.

Ryan:

Der John Thanks for the Krump update! Oh, and I see you still got that email bug!
…but not for long with my little friend here

JR: Did you get a bead on the N metal wheels?

Tx07: ]…or is it welcome back?....seems like we may have met before?

All this talk about Mallets has stirred in me a long standing wish. I wish that the loco and rolling-stock advertisers in MR and other mrr magazines would put the build dates, or at least some indication of the decades “in service” of their prototypes. I’m trying to model reasonably modern times. I’m woefully ignorant of what ran when, and have a good percentage of my cars that I suspect are way too outdated to fit into my ideal time period. I’m OK if it’s a box car with roof walks, I know I can’t use that, but covered hoppers, gondolas, tank cars…I haven’t many clues as to what’s “unsuitable”. (OK, on the tank cars I know I’ve got several that are single dome older 10,000 gallon ones. Any thoughts?

Must get to bed. Goodnight all, and God Bless. Prayers for all in need of healing, comfort and peace.Angel [angel]

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Posted by Fergmiester on Monday, July 23, 2007 10:05 PM

Good Evening All

Well here's the latest...

Yes I may have gone for the last piece of pie but I wasn't the one who "took the cake". Ya don't pick on a youngster on an open forum with sarcasm. Unless he's being saucy.

Anyway Dad is out of the hospital (YeaBig Smile [:D]) and is recovering very well (Touch Wood Banged Head [banghead]) Thanks for the Prayers guys.

And the latest garden demolition/improvement is almost completed. Well phase 1 anyway.

One of the things I did for Dad when he was in was to take in a few photos of the garden and hung them up. Well one thing led to another and before you know it I get a visit from a women asking if I would like to display my garden during next years Glorious Gardens Tour. It's a fund raiser for Colitis and Iliatus research. So if I'm around I'm a go!

Was suppose to go to the Doctor today to have the stitches hauled out of my arm but I was too busy and Dad has an appointment later this week so I... Took the stitches out my self Whistling [:-^]

 Der: John can you do a small favour if possible... The bar and grillin Sheet Harbour  that was made from an Oil Tank, any chance of getting a photo or two of it? I got the Oil Tank I just have to cut out the holes for the door and windows. If it's a problem don't worry about it I'm sure I can figure something out.

Later All

Fergie 

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Posted by JimRCGMO on Monday, July 23, 2007 10:11 PM

Chloe, did I hear someone say free sundaes? Sure, I'll have one - hot fudge over vanilla ice cream, please, with a cup of coffee. Dinner [dinner]


Thanks, Rob - sounds your CFO is a keeper, if she slips a MR into the shopping cart. Yeah!! [yeah] Now, how good is she at tracklaying and scenery? Wink [;)]

Jerry, I hope while the granddaughters are with you, that you introduce them to some train stuff, right? 

 grayfox1119 wrote:

DUKE: You are supposed to keep an eye on Fergie!

Dick, I'm not sure the human eye is quick enough to keep up with Fergie when he's going after a pie. Whistling [:-^]Whistling [:-^]Whistling [:-^]

Sign - Welcome [#welcome] (back?) Txrailnut07 - have a cup on me, and I understand that Rob is buying sundaes, so just let Chloe know what flavor you'd like. Thumbs Up [tup] Tell us a little about your layout and MRR'ing (modeling a particular RR, period, and what scale?). We're nosy curious here, but friendly. Smile [:)]

Has anyone heard from RT on how the move's coming along? We were cutting our club's layouts into sections tonight, so that got me thinking about RT's move (which hopefully involves less fuss than ours has been.

Speaking of missing Diners, where's Inch been? Jerry, did you reach him by land line? 

As I mentioned, tonight we got a lot of the cutting the club layout done, and almost all of the loose stuff boxed up. We still have to get the cabinets down from the walls (and the floor cabinets unfastened, too). So another meeting or two to go before we can get serious about moving a lot of stuff to the new location.

Well, I have a hot fudge sundae to finish, so I'll be getting back to that now. (Yum!)

 

Blessings and a good evening to all,

Jim in Cape Girardeau 

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Posted by gear-jammer on Monday, July 23, 2007 10:31 PM

JR, We are fans of Peco's too. Thumbs Up [tup] If they had #8's when we were laying track, we would have all Pecos.  They did come out with #8's by the time we got to our yard.

Jim,  Look what we started.  I knew that we would get lots of help.

Philip,  You like the Mallet, but just think in N scale you can get the Athearn Clinchfield Challenger.  Drool.  We all want something that is beyond our reach.

Ryan,  Thanks, glad you liked it.

Crandell,  You have a way of explaining things that is easy for me to visualize.  After reading your post, I looked up the history sheet that came with the loco, and found that it was easier to read.  I appreciate your time and help.  Oh, have I seen you in the diner before.  You are always welcome here.

Thanks, Sue  

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Posted by Cederstrand on Tuesday, July 24, 2007 3:32 AM

Any thoughts of this idea for a paint scheme? It's for the major industry on the future layout, Soylent Green Corporation. Dinner [dinner] Rob 

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Posted by wetidlerjr on Tuesday, July 24, 2007 3:51 AM

Good morning ! from Indiana. Big Smile [:D]

07-24-07

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Posted by james saunders on Tuesday, July 24, 2007 4:40 AM
 GMTRacing wrote:

James - glad you got through the game. If you now have a couple of weeks off, it's time enough to see the physical therapist and get some rehab. Do you have access to any whirlpool or similar (having heard the typical Aussie vernacular I'd hesitate to think of what nickname it might have)?

 CUL, J.R.

It's much better now, I went to a Physio yesterday and he thinks just resting for the week it will be okay, he thinks it's only a strain and not a full blown injury.  A whirlpool? thats a fridge brand Tongue [:P] We have an 8 jet Spa bath at home... I think thats what you mean? Question [?]

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Tuesday, July 24, 2007 5:51 AM

Good morning.

More hot, dry and humid weather on tap for tap today. I have a doctors appointment at 10:30 to find out what last weeks cat scan turned up. I'm hoping for the best.

Today's Weather for:  
Sundown, LA  71446-6114      7/24/2007 
 
Wind Chill:  68°F
Humidity:  90%
Dew Point:  65°F
 
So Far Today
High:  71°F
Low:  68°F
Rain:  0.00"
Rain Rate:  0.00"/h
Gust:  0mph NNE
 
Today  High: 92    Mostly sunny. Highs in the lower 90s. Light and variable winds.  

Tonight  Low: 68    Decreasing clouds. Lows in the upper 60s. Light and variable winds

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Posted by pcarrell on Tuesday, July 24, 2007 7:42 AM

Morning All!  How goes it?

It's another beautiful day in Indiana!

Hey don't forget to thank God today for all the little things He provides for you!  We tend to thank Him for the big stuff, but when was the last time you thanked Him for air, or sunlight, or gravity?  Think where you'd be without them!  Thanks for all of those things, and so many others God!

Hey Jeff, that breakfast looks pretty good!  Any left?

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Posted by grayfox1119 on Tuesday, July 24, 2007 8:00 AM

Good morning to all, just a bowl of Cheerios and plenty of blueberries for me, skim milk.......HEY, how do you guys think I stay at 180# and no Diabetes yet after every generation on the male side of the family has had it since the 1800's??? Watch what you eat !!!! Just look at these meals in the Diner......

What's on tap for everyone today? I see that PAUL may be cleaning out the creek again, JEFF is sweating bullets in the Bayou, PHIL ( FEC PHIL ) is out hunting the Anacondas that are causing all the trouble in Florida. PC is directing traffic on the interstate to make room for aircraft landing on the highways, SUE is down at the library trying to see if she is now 52nd on the list to read White Cascade.........lets see now, ohh yes, there is DUKE on his bike on the way to w**k, DER JOHN is taking pictures of the old tank for FERGIE, and speaking of FERGIE, who was that who just ran out the Diner back door with a gallon of ice cream and a whole pie? GARRY is yelling at the weatherman to stop the rain, and MIKE is out in his garden picking weeds, RYAN ......he is at his desk looking at some IT manuals, COLBY.......looks like he is still in bed, late night I guess.

Ohh oh, comapny just came to the front door, we will see you guys at lunch...

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Posted by gear-jammer on Tuesday, July 24, 2007 8:47 AM
 grayfox1119 wrote:

 SUE is down at the library trying to see if she is now 52nd on the list to read White Cascade........

How did you know that I was going to the library after work?

Sue

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Tuesday, July 24, 2007 9:57 AM
It's almost 10am in this time zone so I'm shoving off to my medical appointment. I shall return.

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Posted by grayfox1119 on Tuesday, July 24, 2007 11:10 AM

SUE:  The "SHADOW" knows....hahahaahhahahahha , remember that radio program?? You might be too young to remember though, but I'll bet DUKE, GARRY and MIKE remember.....his stage name was Lamont Cranston.

Hey Ryan, what's for lunch?  Ahhhhh, Cajon style French Meat Pie  ...OHHHH NOOOO, I mentioned pie and here comes FERGIE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Time to head to the garden, see you guys later, I'll take my pie on the run before Fergie gets it.

Dick If you do what you always did, you'll get what you always got!! Learn from the mistakes of others, trust me........you can't live long enough to make all the mistakes yourself, I tried !! Picture album at :http://www.railimages.com/gallery/dickjubinville Picture album at:http://community.webshots.com/user/dickj19 local weather www.weatherlink.com/user/grayfox1119
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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Tuesday, July 24, 2007 12:30 PM
I have returned from my visit at the doctors office. It turns out that I have gall stones and diverticulitis. The gall stones aren't causing me any problem, so naturally they aren't going to do anything about that at this time. The diverticulitis on the other hand is a more serious matter. He put me on antibiotics for it. We'll see if that works. If not, more drastic steps may be needed.

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Posted by railroadboy on Tuesday, July 24, 2007 2:02 PM
Ah yes ill have just a bowl of cereal
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Posted by bjdukert on Tuesday, July 24, 2007 2:22 PM

Dick I am still too young to remember the OLD radio programs but I am at the start of the TV generation.Big Smile [:D] And it's hard to watch Fergie when there are times that I think he and I think a lot alike. Sign - Oops [#oops]

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Posted by Heartland Division CB&Q on Tuesday, July 24, 2007 3:10 PM

Howdy everyone.

So far, I'm watching by diet.  But later I'll have one of Detroit's famous Saunders Hot Fudge Cream Puffs.

Been in Detroit area since Sunday night. As I said before, trip timing was planned for NMRA convention, but I'm spending most of the time with relatives. I decided NMRA is too grandious with its convention prices.  I think, they could do better promoting the hobby keeping the hobby affordable. In my case, I did have enough money set aside, but finally decided I could not justify spending it on the convention.  The train show here is to be an exception. Now, if Shelley will keep shopping at the malls under control, there will be room in the vehicle.

DUKE ...  I'm still planning to attend train show Saturday morning and save time for lunch. I'll touch base with dealer, Classic Trains and Ferraris from Paducah, KY. If you go to that dealer ask for Bill. I'll hopefully check back to forum again before Saturday.

 Jeff......GP38 is great looking. Take care of yourself. Sorry about the health issues.

Sue .. enjoyed the youtube of the 2-8-8-2. Did you see my NP equipment posted several days ago in the diner? 

Bobk ...  I'm sure your experiences did take a big toll. Same with your kids. Perhaps it would be good to take a break and get away with the kids. Maybe you could take a trip around to see some diners.  Feel free to head for KY's Land Between the Lakes area if you like.

RT .....  best wishes in your new home and with employment. You'll be in a beautiful area.

Der ..... You should have seen me here swatting the bug that was in the computer screen. Annoying, pesky little critter!

Dick ... saving any blueberries for the diner?  Hey, I've had some really good Michigan Cherries here.  Duke's been holding out!!!!

Ryan .... I thought you cook just out of the goodness of your heart.

Fergie .... If the train show here has any 2-10-2's, you'll miss out.  Glad your Dad is home from hospital ..... and your stitches are out...

Rob....well, that's a creative paint scheme.  Jeff can explain how to paint.

Jim cape G....  Sounds like the club is moving right along.

Philip.... good layout progess there and glad your son is interested. 

Oz Jim ...... take care of those hurts.

Paul....  keep the UP under control there at your property!

Everyone......speaking of going off diet.  Detroit has Tim Hortons donut shops! I'm in trouble.

  

GARRY

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Posted by SilverSpike on Tuesday, July 24, 2007 3:46 PM

Good day folks!

What say you all there? Sign - Welcome [#welcome]

Duke said: "I know where there is a room that you could use for your stay at no cost if there is cooking involved." Approve [^]Smile [:)]Yeah!! [yeah]Dinner [dinner]Dinner [dinner]

 

Duke a room huh! Is that the one with the train layout running through it? I'll keep that thought in my back pocket.... Oh and ....only the shadow knows..... Blindfold [X-)]

Der John I see the bull frog has remedied your situation. Give Krump our thoughts and prayers for Phil Baker and family and friends.

Phillip I do my thanking every night before I go to sleep and pray for another glorious day tomorrow!

Dick you are so right! I just put down my GUI for Windows book a few minutes ago....I'm up to page 10,321 and still I don't know Jack! Oh and sorry I missed the Cajon style French Meat Pie.... Dinner [dinner]

Garry said: "Ryan .... I thought you cook just out of the goodness of your heart."

Gerry goodness of my heart? LOL, how about out of the pocket book of my wallet..... LOL Actually, I have been known to barter! Whistling [:-^]

Cheers,

Ryan

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Posted by bjdukert on Tuesday, July 24, 2007 3:54 PM

Afternoon all

The 1225 Berkshire ran this last Sat and Sun in conjunction with the NMRA convention with Sat being a fan run and Sun was for those attending the convention. Ray,his wife,Ruth (Louie's wife,the friend that passed away, she still rides with us) and I went and did some chasing on Sun and here is the start of what I got. I will only do about 4 a day because of those with dial-up so I hope you like them. I should let you know that it was running in reverse from Owosso to Alma and when they got to Alma they ran it around the train for the return trip.

Here it comes

Garry Look for an Email

Best to all on sick call and those recoveringAngel [angel]Angel [angel]Angel [angel]

That's about it

Talk to you later

Duke

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Tuesday, July 24, 2007 3:54 PM
I was nearly in very serious trouble! My vision was starting to dim and I was feeling dizzy. A quick check showed that my blood sugar level was 51. It was time to get something to eat, fast.

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Posted by SilverSpike on Tuesday, July 24, 2007 3:59 PM

Great shots Duke! Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup]

And looking forward to the next installment!

Keep em coming.

BTW, is that your red pick em up truck?

Cheers,

Ryan

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