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Posted by der5997 on Monday, July 23, 2007 9:28 PM

Good evening Diners:

I’ve heard again from krump in B.C. about Phil Baker. Here’s his news.

Hi John, Sad news. Phil passed away this morning. The family will continue to need prayer support as they adjust to these changes. His wife's name is Jocelyn.
Thanks for all who were praying for him, I guess now it’s his family who need to be in our thoughts. Angel [angel]

Jeff: Thanks for the home made decal tutorial. Just what I need to do the Maritime Trunk locos when the time comes.Bow [bow] finding that thin airmail paper may be a challenge, I’ll try Staples first, I guess. So, the colour that appears on the monitor is irrelevant, it’s the colour value of the scanned image in MSPaint that does the trick. Good to know.

Ryan:

Der John Thanks for the Krump update! Oh, and I see you still got that email bug!
…but not for long with my little friend here

JR: Did you get a bead on the N metal wheels?

Tx07: ]…or is it welcome back?....seems like we may have met before?

All this talk about Mallets has stirred in me a long standing wish. I wish that the loco and rolling-stock advertisers in MR and other mrr magazines would put the build dates, or at least some indication of the decades “in service” of their prototypes. I’m trying to model reasonably modern times. I’m woefully ignorant of what ran when, and have a good percentage of my cars that I suspect are way too outdated to fit into my ideal time period. I’m OK if it’s a box car with roof walks, I know I can’t use that, but covered hoppers, gondolas, tank cars…I haven’t many clues as to what’s “unsuitable”. (OK, on the tank cars I know I’ve got several that are single dome older 10,000 gallon ones. Any thoughts?

Must get to bed. Goodnight all, and God Bless. Prayers for all in need of healing, comfort and peace.Angel [angel]

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Posted by Paul W. Beverung on Monday, July 23, 2007 8:11 PM

Evening Gang: Not much going on except it's raining. We've had an inch and a half so far and it's still coming down. The creek wasn't running high when we came home but that was a couple of hours ago. If it keeps up I'll probably get to clean out the creek crossing again. Oh joy.

Sue the Mallet is a compound articulated as such as the Y-3. It was a powerfull but slow locomotive. The simple articulated like the Challenger and Big Boy were much faster. This was due in large part to the large size of the low pressure cylinders. There was so much mass moving in the low pressure cylinders that ballancing at high speed was impossible.

I guess we just can't leave Fergie alone for a second. The next time we want to start a war we'll send him.

well we have an early breakfast date with our neighbors. It's at 8 am, early for us. so I'll hit the sack.

Good Night All

 

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Monday, July 23, 2007 7:44 PM
Howdy, howdy, how do you do?

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Posted by Txrailnut07 on Monday, July 23, 2007 7:37 PM
Howdy strangers!!!!!
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Posted by grayfox1119 on Monday, July 23, 2007 6:28 PM

Good evening......cloudy, showers, and now heavy fog, a chilly NE wind at 6 mph, and 62F. Transfered all the photos from the railfan trip to Webshots site, now I have a few from the Diamond in Palmer, Ma in the process of xfer while I am in the Diner. We had a single engine plane land on I495 this afternoon at rush hour, the pilot did a great job, no one injured at rush hour traffic levels.

JEFF: That is a great way to make decals, it really looks great, I'll have to make note of this method!!!

COLBY: That was quite an experience for you, and it sounds like the RR did quite well with all those riders!

FERGIE: Now what did you do ???  Did you get into a scuffle in the Diner trying to take the last piece of pie?? 

DUKE: You are supposed to keep an eye on Fergie!

PC: I am glad to hear that your son is taking an interest in MRR, it's great when family members share the action and fun together.

TIFN

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Posted by Cederstrand on Monday, July 23, 2007 6:23 PM

Oh, looks like I'm buying this evening. Looks like there is a special on ice cream sundays!

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Posted by Cederstrand on Monday, July 23, 2007 6:22 PM

 Please & Thank You!

How do you know your wife (or girl friend) loves you? It's the little things, like today at the grocery store when she placed a Model Railroader Mag. into the cart. Looking forward to reading through it later. Yep, I'm a lucky man!

Jeffrey, I am definitely going to try out your method for lettering. Thanks for the process details.

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Posted by bjdukert on Monday, July 23, 2007 4:20 PM

Ryan

Garry I would love to go to Detroit and cook for you guys, but does that mean your paying my way too?
I know where there is a room that you could use for your stay at no cost if there is cooking involved. Approve [^]Smile [:)]Yeah!! [yeah]Dinner [dinner]Dinner [dinner]

Talk to you later

Duke

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Monday, July 23, 2007 3:57 PM

Found this on page two.

I'll have a cheeseburger.

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Posted by selector on Monday, July 23, 2007 11:17 AM

Sue, unless I am mistaken, the term "mallet" applies to those articulated locomotives, of which the simple steam Challenger and Big Boy are parts, to those locomotives that use steam in succession between two banks of cylinders.

The "simple" steamers, Big Boys among them, have the two banks of cylinders as do the Mallets, but in the simple steam, each bank gets high pressure steam from the boiler.  In the case of the Mallets, only the rear cylinders enjoy the highest pressure steam.  When the cylinder evacuates itself on the exhuast strokes, it forces the now cooler and less dense steam to move forward along conduits toward the much larger front cylinders for their use.  If you look closely at the cylinders on each type of articulated locomotive, the front ones on the Mallets are larger than those on the rear.  This is to provide a larger piston cross-section for the less powerful second-hand steam to apply the maximum force to contribute towards the locomotive's effort.

I believe the N&W Y6b could operate in both simple and compound modes, with the latter providing the greatest tractive effort upwards of 150K lbs.  I believe that it was the highest of all the big steamers.

I want one. Tongue [:P]

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Posted by SilverSpike on Monday, July 23, 2007 11:13 AM

Cool [8D]Good afternoon folks!

So what's on the lunch menu for today? Chef [C=:-)]

I'll have some Shrimp Marinara with Angel Hair pasta please Chloe! Thanks. Dinner [dinner]

Updated my website again this weekend, added some of the reference books that I have in my library on the Modeling Techniques page.

R.T.  There is nothing to it, just a strap and two wheels. Sorry you can't pick it up, I know you are busy. Good luck with the move and it looks like the agenda is set!

Garry I would love to go to Detroit and cook for you guys, but does that mean your paying my way too?

Bob K.  Hope all is well with you these days.

Der John Thanks for the Krump update! Oh, and I see you still got that email bug!

Sue Nice video you have there, thanks for sharing! Thumbs Up [tup]

Colby Now that fireman's job looks like you had some great time there! Thanks for the pics!

PC Backdrop project looking like you make quick work there and a helper too!

Jeff Good looking loco shell and the decal tutorial is quite a gem!

Cheers,

Ryan

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Monday, July 23, 2007 10:56 AM
 Cox 47 wrote:
Jeff...Your decal making sounds like something I might try to make some hard to find Decals for N scale...Whats the smallest you have made
Number boards with numbers smaller than this: 12321. That's 8 point. I make them in 7 point and sometimes 6 point.

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Posted by Cox 47 on Monday, July 23, 2007 10:27 AM
Good Morning All.....Its a sunny day here and a little warmer after a great week end....I'll have a glass of Ed's OJ and one of Bill's dougnuts please...Thank you...We still have 2 of the Grand Daughters with us so not much train time...Jeff...Your decal making sounds like something I might try to make some hard to find Decals for N scale...Whats the smallest you have made?....Inch hasn't checked in for a few days I need to call him on the land line and see if he is OK....Girls are eating thier breakfast so I'd better check on them ...You all have a good day....Jerry
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Posted by pcarrell on Monday, July 23, 2007 9:16 AM
 GMTRacing wrote:

PC - that's some nice progress again. You have with just a couple of backdrop pieces achieved a totally different look. Very nice.

I know!  I was kind of shocked myself!  I didn't think it would make that kind of difference, but it really does.  I can't wait to get it sanded and painted now!

 gear-jammer wrote:

Philip,  You are really going to town on your layout.  Now your photos can keep the rest of us motivated.

I don't know about all that, but thanks.  I'm still drooling over that mallet of yours though.

Philip
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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Monday, July 23, 2007 8:10 AM

So far it's held up pretty well. I have decals I printed years ago that still look good today and haven't faded at all.

Gotta go. I have to pick up parts for my father's tractor and then install them.

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Posted by GMTRacing on Monday, July 23, 2007 8:08 AM
Jeff - that's a pretty perfect match all right. What I was wondering about was how the match holds up over time. Does the print fade or does it stay as perfect as new? Just being nosey. J.R.
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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Monday, July 23, 2007 7:39 AM
 GMTRacing wrote:

Jeff - that loco is looking goood. Thanks for the tip on the decals - do the backrounds blend in well over time or do you trim them to suit?

Do they blend in? You tell me. I'm colorblind when it comes to grays and blues.

 

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Posted by JimRCGMO on Monday, July 23, 2007 7:23 AM

Good morning, Zoe - did I miss the announcement that the Literary Circle was meeting in the Diner today? Evil [}:)]Wink [;)] Think that I'll have some of Ed's fine oj, cup of coffee and a couple of waffles,

but I'd better eat quickly, in case there's a test. Haven't been talking much about literature in a long while, not since I was an English major (but as you can guess, I switched to something else later)."Tale of Two Kitties" - was that the book? Wink [;)] 

 gear-jammer wrote:

Jim,  I believe that Mallet is a generic term for articulated locos, so the 2-8-8-2 fits in that class. If I am wrong, I am sure someone will help us on that.

Nope, you're correct on that, Sue. When I read your post, I was curious, and went and checked it in Wikipedia (they have a page on the Whyte loco classifications/terminology). It was just like you said - Mallet is the group name. There are some specific names for some of the Mallet locos, but the 2-6-6-2 I have usually seen labelled as Mallet doesn't have a specific name. So I suppose that's how I got confused. (Do I need much to get that way? Confused [%-)]Wink [;)]

OzJim, good to hear the muscles aren't as sore/aching now. Prayers will continue for you, as well as for Fergie's Dad and others in need of healing or comfort or strengthening.

Currently, it's 58 F here in Cape G., with 93 percent humidity. Sure hoping a lot of that fades away during the day, but hey, it is almost August in Missouri...Cool [8D]

Well, better get to my waffles. 

 

Blessings on your Monday, 

Jim in Cape Girardeau 

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Posted by GMTRacing on Monday, July 23, 2007 7:00 AM

Good Morning All,

    A regular and a boston cream donut please Zoe. Ran some trains last night so not much progress to report on construction. On the philosophical side, I'm close to removing several of the Atlas turnouts I have as they don't work reliably enough to suit me any more. 75% is not good enough affter I spend time working on detailed rolling stock so it's probably better to cut them out now and replace with the Peco I prefer. I'm also on the verge of reworking my swing bridge as I've not run my dehumidifier this summer and have some minor swelling problems for the first time. Once I get the dehumidifier back up and running I'll reevaluate the situation.

   Yesterday I did get the new oil coolers and brackets for the museum ex New Haven 44 tonner finished. I used an old surplus ex Richard Childress Racing radiator as it was the only core I had that would hold 100psi reliably. After mods they look good if not exactly prototypical and should work fine.

Colby - those events are a lot of work but very satisfying aren't they? 4,000 is a very respectablle turnout for any rail event. Was that the first time or have you run it before?

James - glad you got through the game. If you now have a couple of weeks off, it's time enough to see the physical therapist and get some rehab. Do you have access to any whirlpool or similar (having heard the typical Aussie vernacular I'd hesitate to think of what nickname it might have)?

PC - that's some nice progress again. You have with just a couple of backdrop pieces achieved a totally different look. Very nice.

Jeff - that loco is looking goood. Thanks for the tip on the decals - do the backrounds blend in well over time or do you trim them to suit?

 Time to get to it and pick up tools - hope the rest of you have a goodun' CUL, J.R.

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Monday, July 23, 2007 6:58 AM

Good morning.

It is a far, far better thing that I do, than I have ever done.

From 'A tale of two cities' if I'm not mistaken.

Today's Weather for:  
Sundown, LA  71446-6114      7/23/2007 
 
Wind Chill:  66°F
Humidity:  86%
Dew Point:  62°F
 
So Far Today
High:  73°F
Low:  66°F
Rain:  0.00"
Rain Rate:  0.00"/h
Gust:  7mph NNE
 
Today  High: 92    Mostly sunny. Highs in the lower 90s. Light and variable winds.  

Tonight  Low: 65    Partly cloudy. Lows in the mid 60s. Light and variable winds.

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Posted by james saunders on Monday, July 23, 2007 5:18 AM
 JimRCGMO wrote:

Ouch, OzJames - can you sleep on the couch until your muscles feel well enough to negotiate the stairs? At least your team won the (cricket) match. Will keep you in my prayers for healing.

 I slept there last night wih a few heat pads on the muscle which relieves the swelling and damage to the muscle and eases the pain of it, the couch was too uncomfortable tonight, But the pain has eased enough for me to climb the stairs and i'm now able to lightly jog on it. So it might be less severe than first thought.  Thanks for the prayers.

 Oz

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Posted by wetidlerjr on Monday, July 23, 2007 4:56 AM

Good morning ! from Indiana. Big Smile [:D]

07-23-07

Clown [:o)]

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Posted by Fergmiester on Sunday, July 22, 2007 10:54 PM

Good Evening All

I fear my time is limited as I, against my better judgement, just flame "our" evermost Illustrious David Bedard. 

Anyway let's see if I'm here tomorrow?

Later All

And remember

"It is a far better thing i do for all" 

 

Fergie 

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Sunday, July 22, 2007 9:53 PM

Thanks Paul. Töten Sie die Kreditkarte, Jungen! I'll have the steak and potato.

 

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Posted by gear-jammer on Sunday, July 22, 2007 9:49 PM

I will have one last coffee before bed.

Rob,  The UP cars are the gray ones so they will only need slight modifications  to change.

Jim,  I believe that mallet is a generic term for articulated locos, so the 2-8-8-2 fits in that class. If I am wrong, I am sure someone will help us on that.

Jeff,  Thanks for the tutorial on the decals.  Things are looking great.Thumbs Up [tup]

Philip,  You are really going to town on your layout.  Now your photos can keep the rest of us motivated.

Paul,  Cool guns. We haven't been shooting in a while.  The rain has been keeping us inside.  Looks like you are still getting plenty of rain.

Good night all, Sue

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Posted by Paul W. Beverung on Sunday, July 22, 2007 9:26 PM

Evening Gang: Not much got done today. I took 3 of my firearms out to the barn and got 2 cleaned. I'd rather clear 3 1903 Springfields then an AR-15. I do like that little rifle but it is a bit much to clean right. Actually mine is a M-4 carbine. I also got my Colt 45 Commander cleaned up. Now of course I'll want to go out and shoot them.

I didn't get down to the UP today. I did get set up so Mary Ann can start working on her shelves. I'll help her of course. The sooner we get things into the container the sooner I get the room in the basement.

The pump house has a roof now. The boys will finish the trim tomorrow. Mary Ann and I will have to make a trip to town to pick up the trim lumber in the morning.

Well I guess I'll head for bed.

Cheeese top of the page again. Enjoy, it's on me.

Good Night All

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Sunday, July 22, 2007 9:10 PM
 Cederstrand wrote:

How do you print the lettering onto the paper, in a printer or??? Also, how do you then transfer the lettering onto your model? Is the paper clear? I am most intrigued, more info Please and Thank you!

Cowboy [C):-)] Rob

The paper is white. I paint a piece of paper the same exact shade as the model and scan it into my computer. I then use the color sample as the basis for the decal background. I go into MS-Paint and pull up the sample color, add the color to my custom list and fill the palette with that color, in this case equipment primer gray. I then use the text tool to print letters onto the gray background in the chosen color (in this case red). For the GWWR letters I used the Book Antique font with a font size of 48. The cab numbers were made in the same manner at font size 18 and the number board numbers were made in font size 7. Once everything was ready I saved it to my hard drive then printed it out on white Air Mail paper with an ordinary HP DeskJet ink-jet printer at the BEST setting. All that remains is to cut out the decal blocks and secure them to the model with a THIN layer of white glue. That's all there is to it. I make almost all my own decals.

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Posted by Cederstrand on Sunday, July 22, 2007 8:53 PM

How do you print the lettering onto the paper, in a printer or??? Also, how do you then transfer the lettering onto your model? Is the paper clear? I am most intrigued, more info Please and Thank you!

Cowboy [C):-)] Rob

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Sunday, July 22, 2007 8:38 PM

Yep, that's more of my handi-work. I make them on Air Mail paper now. I can't get onion skin anymore. The Air Mail paper costs five cents a sheet. I bought five bucks worth. You wouldn't believe how thin this stuff is. Regular paper is 20#. Air Mail paper is 5# and it's extremely light.

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Posted by pcarrell on Sunday, July 22, 2007 7:46 PM
Is that more of those onion skin decals there Jeff?

Looks great BTW!
Philip

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