Need some computer help from Coumpter folks.

[cudaken]

Two days ago I let the XP Pro up date it self, installed the newest Explorer, think it was 7.0. Said it would make my computer safer. Seem it has made me safer from my self!

Main thing is my HP Photo and imaging program verison 1.1 will not work! I used the reapir mode, unistalled and reinstalled 4 times, still will not work. Camera is a HP 720, last up dated driver I could find is from 2004.

Second, on this site the message section I am seeing only 4" X 2.5" on a 20" screen and there are no happy faces? Is that because of the new Explorer or did the site change again?

Links to a driver that will let the HP Photo and imaging work would be great. Other wise there will be HUGE and not to the point PIC to follow.

If the new Explorer is the problem, how to I go back to the older one?

When it comes to the Keyboard Thingie, well I know more about trains? That is a sad statement.

Hope for help again, Cuda Ken

[CSX_road_slug]

Two days ago I let the XP Pro up date it self, installed the newest Explorer, think it was 7.0. ...

Several people here have noted issues with IE7 - especially the part about posting pictures. 

I've re-installed my Windows operating system a few times from the "recovery media" (CD's) that came with the computer.  Of course, after that I had to reinstall my other software packages as well.

If you decide to go that route, make sure to get a backup of all your data files, images, etc. before you start - since reinstalling an operating system sometimes involves formatting the hard drive.  BTW - you did save all your original software CD's and their license codes in safe place, right?

[SteamFreak]

 If the new Explorer is the problem, how to I go back to the older one?

Ken,

Yes, IE7 is the problem, at least as ar as this forum is concerned. It doesn't display right. It's also quite likely that it's causing your camera problems as well, and uninstalling is simple. Go to Control Panel, open Add or Remove Programs and select IE7. I already did that because of those issues and because it has an annoying interface. If that doesn't resolve everything you can roll the computer back with System Restore, but first things first. Give IE7 the boot!

Nelson

[Anonymous]

Cuda - What version of windows are you upgrading from?

Here is a link directly to HP's website and the download for version 2 of HP photo & imaging software (it is the first on the list). Perhaps version 2 will solve the problem.  Actually, all the links on this page are specific for your camera.

Your problem with the small message window could be display resolution.  Does everything look smaller than before?  If so, right click your mouse on your wallpaper, choose properties, then settings, and use the slide bar to lower the screen resolution.

I must admit I am not familiar with Exporer v. 7.0.  In my long experience with computers and software, I have learned the addage that "pioneers are usually the ones with arrows in their backs".

[NeO6874]

at this point... IE7 is junk.  True, it is a "required" update for windows... but as you (and others) have pointed out, it causes a lot of problems.  I don't know of any websites (other than M/soft) that actually support the browser..

[Anonymous]

Definely time for an exorcism or a stick of dunamite.  I'm not verycomputer savy at all.  When they changed the forum a while back I had to change my screenname and rejoin to be able to post replies again.  I had been a member sinc like around 1998.Knowing more abput trains tan computers is not a sad statement , but to me a real compliment my friend,  Tweet.

[gn goat]

IE7 is a new animal. Its user interface is entirely different from previous versions of Explorer. In addition MS no longer includes Javascript in their software downloads so you must go to Sun Microsystems and download it from there. I know I had a heck of a time locating some of the controls like "favorites" because now there is no menu bar.

the goat

[river_eagle]

I have been using ie7 for almost nine months now, my hp camera(even older model 215) and software work fine with ie7, downloaded latest drivers from hp after upgrade.
in fact the only issues i have had with ie7 revolve around this forum and other sites hosted by "community server", and only since this forum was changed over the summer.

[soumodeler]

We all know Microsoft is crap with most things that come out until they can repair everything they screwed up.

I am eagerly awaiting yet dreading Vista.

[Medina1128]

If you open your Control Panel, you can restore your system to an earlier date. THIS is exactly why a lot of people turn Microsoft's Auto-update OFF. And we know that some of the 'fixes' from Microsoft, don't. If you need more help in restoring your system, email me directly.

[jeffrey-wimberly]

And people wonder why I still use Windows98 SE w/sp1? Could it be because IE7 is such a screwed up piece of * that I won't give it the time of day? Quite possibly! I will continue to use W98 until I can no longer find drivers for it. At the rate things are going, a lot of people are coming back to W98.

[SilverSpike]

If you open your Control Panel, you can restore your system to an earlier date. THIS is exactly why a lot of people turn Microsoft's Auto-update OFF. And we know that some of the 'fixes' from Microsoft, don't. If you need more help in restoring your system, email me directly.

Totally right! Run a System Restore to a point a day or two, or even a week before your computer updated. This should resolve the issue. If Microsoft has some kind of other "system hook" that will not restore to the older version of IE, then you can try the Add and Remove Programs procedure, see the link below:

http://itinfo.mit.edu/article.php?id=8234

Hope this helps!

Cheers,

Ryan

[Stevert]

  Interesting thread. 

  The PC I'm using to type this reply has XP Home w/SP2, all fixes, and IE7.  But IE7 isn't a problem for this forum or anything else because I use Firefox. 

  IE is only used for those Web sites who's authors choose to write them to IE's "non-standards", to the extent that they won't work on a proper browser. 

  While I haven't kept any actual stats on how many Web sites that is, it's very few.  In other words, Firefox works perfectly (or I should say the Web sites work perfectly) probably 99% of the time.

Steve

PS.  This PC started out as a PII with W98 first edition.  Since then, the original OS has been upgraded to XP Home (not a clean install, but an upgrade) and all the hardware has been upgraded as well, and I do mean all:  Motherboard, processor, memory, video card, hard drives, optical drives, power supply, and even the case.   Some of them have even been swapped out more than once (memory, video card, hard and optical drives, PS, case), yet I have NEVER had to do a re-install.  My train PC is also XP Home SP2 w/all upgrades and fixes (and IE7) and recently had it's hardware completely upgraded as well.  Again, never had to reinstall XP.  IMHO, anyone who says XP is unstable/unusable simply isn't maintaining their machine properly.

[Anonymous]

Now say it with me.... WE LOVE YOU BILL.... MICROSOFT IS THE BEST IN THE WORLD....

Now in all reality I really dont like microsoft. But I have a lot of respect for the college drop out that runs the company, because it really does show that being a cold callus business person you really can make a lot of money on Screwing people that dont know any better, ah yes thats america at its best.... And for those that dont know Micro soft is also the controling intrest in mac as of about 5 years ago.

 Any way back on topic get rid of IE7 it is just a beta version that they used as a manditory update  to see where the problems are. Wait a year to get the new version of IE. Just keep in mind it will be a decent program once all the bugs get fixed. Untill then try fire fox it is just as good as Ie 6 but has beter security features. Just my 2 cents,

Curt

[rrebell]

And people wonder why I still use Windows98 SE w/sp1? Could it be because IE7 is such a screwed up piece of * that I won't give it the time of day? Quite possibly! I will continue to use W98 until I can no longer find drivers for it. At the rate things are going, a lot of people are coming back to W98.

Windows 98 not likly to die as it is a gamers platform now, some gamers use duel boots so they have xp and 98!!!!!!!!!!!

[TheK4Kid]

And people wonder why I still use Windows98 SE w/sp1? Could it be because IE7 is such a screwed up piece of * that I won't give it the time of day? Quite possibly! I will continue to use W98 until I can no longer find drivers for it. At the rate things are going, a lot of people are coming back to W98.

Jeffrey is right.
I am using an edition of W98 called  W98 Lite Pro.
A freind of mine who does all my PC work and is also a PC and IT specialist says stay away from IE 7 and I was going to get a new Dell PC, and he also said don't even think about Windows Vista, it will be at least a year before they get the bugs out of it.
This edition of W98 I have gets rid of most of the junk Microsft loads into a machine.
It's an old 400 Mhz machine with an AMD K63 processor, and runs at about  800Mhz performance wise.
Basically my PC is just over 8 years old, still running fine.
Why mess it up?

Ed

[Virginian]

Interesting how people crucify Microsoft because other people's software won't work with the newer MS releases.  That is why they do Beta releases, so the other software firms can upgrade their interfaces.  Kinda like being mad at Chevy because Goodyear's 14" tires don't fit anymore.  But, if one checks low and behold, Goodyear has 15", 16" , 17" ...ad infinitum size tires.

If your support software doesn't work, check their site for upgrades and then call them.

MS is not perfect.  But, they are 99.99% responsible for all of us being able to be here, and the web even being here, too.

[rrebell]

Now say it with me.... WE LOVE YOU BILL.... MICROSOFT IS THE BEST IN THE WORLD....

Now in all reality I really dont like microsoft. But I have a lot of respect for the college drop out that runs the company, because it really does show that being a cold callus business person you really can make a lot of money on Screwing people that dont know any better, ah yes thats america at its best.... And for those that dont know Micro soft is also the controling intrest in mac as of about 5 years ago.

 Any way back on topic get rid of IE7 it is just a beta version that they used as a manditory update  to see where the problems are. Wait a year to get the new version of IE. Just keep in mind it will be a decent program once all the bugs get fixed. Untill then try fire fox it is just as good as Ie 6 but has beter security features. Just my 2 cents,

Curt

That goes for the whole batch, they all stole or tricked their way to the top and at companys like oracle backstabbing is the way the company runs (they even fear the janitors thinking they are after their jobs).

[G Paine]

I had similar problems when I downloaded IE7 last Friday. I fussed with it a couple of days, and finally did a system restore that got me back to IE 6 OK. THEN I had a problem with McAfee Viruscan not working. Viruscan is very protective of itself, and it appears that some of the automatic downloads while I was fussing caused a conflict when I backdated my computer to Friday. System Restore puts back ALL changes. Since McAfee was bundeled with my Dell when I bought it, I called Dell support. They told me that IE 7 is still BETA, which Microsoft should have disclosed when they set it as a Priority Download. Dell refered me to a McAfee support for Dell products, they had me download a tool that removed Viruscan, then I went to my McAfee account and was able to download and install McAfee again. That's a lot of work and frustration just because Micreosoft was not up front on the status of IE 7.

[TheK4Kid]

Interesting how people crucify Microsoft because other people's software won't work with the newer MS releases.  That is why they do Beta releases, so the other software firms can upgrade their interfaces.  Kinda like being mad at Chevy because Goodyear's 14" tires don't fit anymore.  But, if one checks low and behold, Goodyear has 15", 16" , 17" ...ad infinitum size tires.

If your support software doesn't work, check their site for upgrades and then call them.

MS is not perfect.  But, they are 99.99% responsible for all of us being able to be here, and the web even being here, too.

I'm not trying to crucify Microsoft, but I'll point out an example.
I have MS Flight Sim 2004 on this PC.
When it was first loaded in ( before I had W98 Lite Pro) it took FS2004 almost 4 minutes to load!
 After letting my friennd clean up my PC and load W98 Lite Pro in it, MS 2004 loaded in 16 seconds!

Microsoft loads so much "fat" into a new PC, it's unreal!
They put in software that will supposedly make other software they hope to sell you in the future more compatible with the machine whether you ever buy it or not.
If you don't buy it and use it, the "fat" is still there SLOWING your PC down.

I can also simply click on an icon on my screen and totally switch between W98 or IE, they  are TOTALLY SEPARATED on this machine.

When I asked my friend if I should update to IE 7, he said don't even think about it!
It's a ball of twine that is so tangled right now, it will take awhile to untangle it.

Jeffrey is right, and probably has a machine that runs good, even if it's not the latest and greatest technology.
Since he builds PC's he proabbly understands the W98 version I have on here, and how I can swich bewteen IE and W98 Lite Pro.
By the way my W98 Lite Pro works along with Firefox as my browser, which is what I use.
I have IE6 loaded on here, but never use it.

 Just my 2cents worth

Ed

[Anonymous]

Interesting how people crucify Microsoft because other people's software won't work with the newer MS releases.  That is why they do Beta releases, so the other software firms can upgrade their interfaces.  Kinda like being mad at Chevy because Goodyear's 14" tires don't fit anymore.  But, if one checks low and behold, Goodyear has 15", 16" , 17" ...ad infinitum size tires.

If your support software doesn't work, check their site for upgrades and then call them.

MS is not perfect.  But, they are 99.99% responsible for all of us being able to be here, and the web even being here, too.

I am not crucifying microsoft either, Just displaying my dislike of a more complicated time thanks to them. Bill gates is a marketing genious and knows who to hire to get the job done. Unfortunitly it was not microsoft who is responsible for the internet conturary to popular belief.

We have the government to thank for that. They were using the phone lines as early as the 50's to send information back and forth between base's and other instaltaions. But It wasnt until the mid to late 80's when the technology was declassified that a lovly company called Prodigy, which was devoloped by gamers, Brought full use of what we now know as the internet in to existiance. The internet was originaly a way to share files and play games, not unlike today. But the big difference came to be when Microsoft bought Prodigy in around 94 that microsoft became the leader in internet service. It is true that bill has made the computer and its programs available to the world at affordiable prices.

But I for one mis the simpler times when the computer as well as the phone were used as a tool and were not as big of an impact that they are today.

Curt

[pro_crip]

MS is not perfect.  But, they are 99.99% responsible for all of us being able to be here, and the web even being here, too.

no, they aren't. The web started out as a darpa project to keep all the labs in the country linked up in case mutually assured destruction didn't hold any more water and so on and so forth. They have come up with nothing original of their own. Ms-dos was ripped off from digital research, windows is a very very pale imitation of mac os and so on and so forth. The only thing bill gates needs to be congratulated for is having a mother who worked at ibm.

[jfugate]

Windows 98? Well, it depends on what you're using your computer for.

In my case I do a lot of graphic intensive DVD video stuff, and the vendors of this software *require* you have XP SP2 and at least a 2.8GHz processor with 1GB of memory.

Windows 98 would just fall over in a heap if I tried to use it for this kind of work. If all you're doing is email and word processing documents, then yes, you can get by with Windows 98. But as time goes on, you will find your internet browsing experience is going to suffer, especially as web 2.0 and AJAX gains in popularity (for you web techies out there who know what this means -- for non-techies it means you will need the latest browsers and OS, sorry but progress waits on no one as they say).

[jeffshultz]

I've got three systems at home... my server and main workstation runs Linux (currently SuSE 10.). The system I set up for my wife (who uses my Linux box more often anyway) is Windows2k. 
My laptop is also Win2k (basically because I can't get Java + serial ports figured out under Linux for Decoder Pro).

There is very little I need to do that I can't get done with that combination... but yeah, I've found some stuff that requires WinXP. Oh well. Guess those people don't get my money.

Oh - I run Firefox on all of them.

[NeO6874]

Windows 98? Well, it depends on what you're using your computer for.

In my case I do a lot of graphic intensive DVD video stuff, and the vendors of this software *require* you have XP SP2 and at least a 2.8MHz processor with 1GB of memory.

windows XP will run on 2.8 MHz Joe!? LOL!

i'm pretty sure you meant GHz

[jeffrey-wimberly]

And people wonder why I still use Windows98 SE w/sp1? Could it be because IE7 is such a screwed up piece of * that I won't give it the time of day? Quite possibly! I will continue to use W98 until I can no longer find drivers for it. At the rate things are going, a lot of people are coming back to W98.

Jeffrey is right.
I am using an edition of W98 called  W98 Lite Pro.
A freind of mine who does all my PC work and is also a PC and IT specialist says stay away from IE 7 and I was going to get a new Dell PC, and he also said don't even think about Windows Vista, it will be at least a year before they get the bugs out of it.
This edition of W98 I have gets rid of most of the junk Microsft loads into a machine.
It's an old 400 Mhz machine with an AMD K63 processor, and runs at about  800Mhz performance wise.
Basically my PC is just over 8 years old, still running fine.
Why mess it up?

Ed

Ed: The system I'm using is one I built myself. It has a Gigabyte gold board with an AMD 2.2Gig Dual core processor and 8 gigs of RAM. I use 2 WD 80Gig hard drives, 1 for the OS and the other for data storage and backup. I'm using a Marvell Yukon 10/100/1000 Network adapter through a cable modem. I think about a web site, I'm there!

[dinwitty]

just use WinXP with Sp2. nothing more, no updates,  If  you need to update, do security updates only., dont autoupdate.

be sure you use a firewall on the net. You don't have to use MS's version, nab some good freebie firewall that updates  occasionally.

[cudaken]

Well, I am typing in the small box again. :-( First let me say thanks for all the answers, I am happy to know I did not mess anything up on the keyboard thingie.

I will be dumping IE 7.0 very soon. I wounder if I can post PIC? I was trying to help someone to post pic and sent my photo bucket address. He still could not post from my bucket. I saw IE listed from people that where trying to help but being Keybaod Dumb did not know what it stood for.

I all so trired to post some links to some great train videos but did not show up as a link? Guess that is it.

As far as XP Pro, it has the SP 1 and 2's. But I never wanted it. Computer friend installed a Teck version he burned (MS cannot tell it was not bought from them) because he said Windows 98 was making my computer run slow?

My computer was a computer show mistake at first. Only thing left in it that came with it is a wester 40 gig hard drive, floppy port and the case.

It now has Pentium IV 2.40 GHz and 533-MHz front side bus, Intel D850EMV2 mother board, Samsung 522 RD Ram, not SDDR (spell check ) G-Force 440 video card.

Funny thing was 4 years ago when I bought the other stuff I listed clerk was impressed with what I bought. I think the mother board was $200.00 or so and IV 2.40 GHz was around the same. Each stick was $125.00, but it still around the same cost the last time I checked Egg Head . Com.

Thanks again, Cuda Ken

[jfugate]

Windows 98? Well, it depends on what you're using your computer for.

In my case I do a lot of graphic intensive DVD video stuff, and the vendors of this software *require* you have XP SP2 and at least a 2.8MHz processor with 1GB of memory.

windows XP will run on 2.8 MHz Joe!? LOL!

i'm pretty sure you meant GHz

Well you know how it goes, the glitch in the system is located between the monitor and the keyboard ...

Yes, GHz.

[SteamFreak]

Windows 98? Well, it depends on what you're using your computer for.

In my case I do a lot of graphic intensive DVD video stuff, and the vendors of this software *require* you have XP SP2 and at least a 2.8MHz processor with 1GB of memory.

windows XP will run on 2.8 MHz Joe!? LOL!

i'm pretty sure you meant GHz

Well you know how it goes, the glitch in the system is located between the monitor and the keyboard ...

Yes, GHz.

Joe,

Always be grateful for that edit feature!

(Unless, of course, someone else notices it first.)

Nelson