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Posted by Casey Feedwater on Friday, September 8, 2006 5:23 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE><table class="quoteOuterTable"><tr><td class="txt4"><img src="/trccs/Themes/default/images/icon-quote.gif">&nbsp;<strong>Bergie wrote:</strong></td></tr><tr><td class="quoteTable"><table width="100%"><tr><td width="100%" valign="top" class="txt4"><P>OK, you just had the same problem I had. I typed in the link and ended it after .jpg, yet Photo Bucket added border="0" /> once it's posted.</P>
<P>Are there any other photo bucket users here that have had success? I believe it's Photo Bucket's issue (adding that extra border tag) not the issue from our software.</P>
<P>Bergie  <img src="/trccs/emoticons/icon_smile_blackeye.gif" alt="Black Eye [B)]" /></P></td></tr></table></td></tr></table></BLOCKQUOTE>

Bergie, I don't use Photo Bucket and the photos I've attempted to upload have had the extra border tag attached upon posting. I've tried linking to photos that are on my personal website (and which post perfectly on other forums) using the standard img tags as well as photos which reside on other forum servers. The results are always the same border="0"/> when I use Safari. However, as I've said a couple of times already, when I downloaded Firefox and installed it 2 days ago, the photo posting problem went away. (As Joe Fugate posted earlier, the problem is seemingly a conflict between the forum software and Safari.

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Posted by Railphotog on Friday, September 8, 2006 6:06 PM

Photobucket has been working for me all along in the new forum:

No extra border stuff in the address, copied here with asterisks to illustrate:

[IMG*]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v409/railfan/EnginehouseMoon-1.jpg[/IMG*]

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Posted by jfugate on Friday, September 8, 2006 6:33 PM
 Railphotog wrote:

Photobucket has been working for me all along in the new forum:

No extra border stuff in the address, copied here with asterisks to illustrate:

[IMG*]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v409/railfan/EnginehouseMoon-1.jpg[/IMG*]

Bob Boudreau



Bob:

The crucial piece of data everyone who can successfully post images needs to list is what computer OS and browser are you using?  If it works for you then you must be using either IE 6 on a PC or Firefox on a Mac or Firefox Linux. Those are the only combinations that the CommunityServer developers bless.

We know those work, and from reading the CS bug forum, we also know that posting images with  IE7 and Mac Safari does not work, period.

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, September 8, 2006 6:56 PM

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This new format ain't doing it for me. Difficult to figure out. Not as user friendly either. Banged Head [banghead]

Ditto here, tried it at first, then turned my attentions back to modeling. Just finished a 12 foot long city module, installed sound in 3 locos, painted and detailed a set of f-units and custom decorated a 65 ft gon for Maryland Midland.

Maybe this has been a good thing?Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

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Posted by james saunders on Friday, September 8, 2006 7:05 PM
I use Photobucket and I use Firefox on a PC and i'm all good Smile [:)]

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Posted by Railphotog on Friday, September 8, 2006 7:19 PM

Guilty as charged, I use a PC and I.E. 6.

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Posted by grayfox1119 on Friday, September 8, 2006 7:39 PM
There is NO DOUBT at all that IE 7.0 will not work with this new forum software. Two changes in software programs made at the relative same time, = potentially bad problems for users....born true once again!!
MS in their attempt to make IE much, much stronger for security issues, as swung the pendulum far to the right on this upgrade to 7.0. Now, we have a host of problems, not just this forum. I am Beta testing Vista, version 2, and I have run into several issues opening investment sites, etc, that have made no changes to their site software, so we obviously know WHERE the problem lies there.
But, when MS gets 7.0 behaving better, will it still play with this forum's new software? I sure hope so, but, changes might need to be made at BOTH ends to ensure this problem is put to bed. I am hearing that those who have received RC1 already from MS, are still having problems with this forums new software program.
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Posted by 3155944 on Friday, September 8, 2006 8:35 PM

Yes I do miss the old forum. I used to spend a lot of time reading the old forum and I learned a pile of info. being new to the hobby it was a great source of info. I find now that many regulars do not post anymore which is a great loss to the hobby. Like myu Dad always said " why fix what aint broke"

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Posted by marknewton on Saturday, September 9, 2006 9:45 AM
jfugate wrote:

<" Long story short, it appears that no matter what you do with IE 7 or Mac Safari, the image posting on this version of the CommunityServer forum software is hosed....If you're on a Mac, you will need to move to Firefox to have a good experience with this forum software.">

Really? How helpful.

If that's the case, then I won't bother participating in this forum again. And I won't bother purchasing any Kalmbach books, periodicals or other merchandise in future. Great way to foster customer loyalty, boys...
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Posted by Pruitt on Saturday, September 9, 2006 12:00 PM

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Really? How helpful. If that's the case, then I won't bother participating in this forum again. And I won't bother purchasing any Kalmbach books, periodicals or other merchandise in future. Great way to foster customer loyalty, boys...

Boycott a company because they offer a free product which works on most mainstream computers but won't work on yours without you having to load a specific software program to use said free product to its fullest? Great! Thumbs Down [tdn]

It isn't Kalmbach's problem that YOUR system / browser of choice doesn't function properly with their FREE product. And you're going to stomp away in a snit because YOU would have use a different browser that WILL work properly. GADS!

Someone is trying to help solve YOUR problem for YOU, and the best you can do is a snide, churlish reply. Well aren't you just the salt of the earth?

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Posted by tstage on Saturday, September 9, 2006 12:13 PM
Mark N,

Your using a FREE forum...and all you need to do is download a FREE 4MB browser to rectify the issues...I guess I just don't understand your beef. Confused [%-)]

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Posted by simon1966 on Saturday, September 9, 2006 1:43 PM

Yes it is FREE.  The reason why Kalmbach hosts this Free service is to drive people to their web site.  The more "eyes" they can get on the site for more time, the greater the opportunity to get advertising revenue and sales from Kalmbach products.  This is purely a commercial venture and taken from Internet Marketing 101.  So yes it is free to us, but it is not free to Atlas, Trainland and any of the many companies that are paying to get their message in front of our eyes.  Merketing on the web is all about getting eyeballs on the site and then holding them for as long as possible.

There is a substantial drop in traffic on this web forum.  Some folks never re-registered, some have drifted quietly, some have been quite vocal in their complaints.  I don't like the new format all that much, and the drop in posting has made it far less interesting to visit the forum.  For the first time I have actually looked around the web for somewhere else to spend my MRR screen time.

So you folks can say "It's free, live with it!"  all you like, but I assure you that if traffic is down substantially and the advertisers don't see the same response from their adverts placed here, then this forum "upgrade" will be considered a commercial faliure.

I do not see any advantages of the new format.  It strikes me as offering fewer features and has obviously introduced technical barriers that were not present before.

If dropping the polls and stars has had the impact of making visitors lose interest and drift away, then it has had the exact opposite result to that intended.

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Posted by Eric Stuart on Saturday, September 9, 2006 1:50 PM

Well, blow me down, folks; I'm glad to find I'm not the only one who feels he's lost the plot.  OK, perhaps it's because I'm technologically challenged ------ !  But I understood the old Fora!

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Posted by selector on Saturday, September 9, 2006 2:29 PM
Is it just me, or have load times begun to creep back up to the stratosphere, too?  I have had some unsettling waits lately.  Cuts into my train time!
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Posted by simon1966 on Saturday, September 9, 2006 2:46 PM

 selector wrote:
Is it just me, or have load times begun to creep back up to the stratosphere, too?  I have had some unsettling waits lately.  Cuts into my train time!

Sometimes it seems to hang forever.  I have found that if a page does not come right up, that re-clicking can get it moving.  It just took 45 seconds to accept this message by the way!

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Posted by selector on Saturday, September 9, 2006 4:36 PM
That's right, Simon, I have found that it takes forever to accept my posts.  I was led to believe that this would be one of the great promised benefits over the past system.  I am increasingly inclined to side with the hordes of detractors here between my picture posting condundrum and the same-old-same-old on load times. Confused [%-)]
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Posted by pbjwilson on Saturday, September 9, 2006 6:15 PM

I dont get it. Copy and Paste photo posting is a big improvement. Everything else seems to be the same. I never really noticed much of a change other than the background color. Anyway, lets talk trains!

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Posted by pcarrell on Saturday, September 9, 2006 9:36 PM

Man, isn't this thread getting ugly?  Everybody is all worked up, tempers are flairing, everything! 

Guys, anger isn't going to solve anything.

Identifying the problem and then working through it objectively will go a long ways towards fixing some of the "issues" that we are seeing.

I'm sure Kalambach want's to appeal to the largest audience possible and so they won't want to leave anybody out.  It wouldn't be in their best interests to do that.  But the problems they need to address first are those affecting the greatest number of people, so if you're using something that is not exactly mainstream, I would expect that it might take them a bit longer to get to those issues, but they will get there.

Tell ya what, since most of the main problems have been identified (a lot of that happened because of this thread by the sounds of it), what say we all go work on our trains and let them work on it a bit.  Then, after they've had some time to goof with it, we can see what they've done.

As for me, I'm off to the train room! Thumbs Up [tup]

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Posted by twhite on Saturday, September 9, 2006 10:57 PM

Okay, guys, let me try and explain my situation in the calmest terms possible.  I was born in 1939, so unlike a lot of later generations, I wasn't born with inbred Computer Genes, LOL!  I am a casual computer user.  I do not use any kind of Internet Explorer that I know about--I use AOL to get on line and then Google up this site, like I Google up all of the sites that I am on.  Before the change in the Forum, I was able to post pictures with no problem (well, I needed a little help, but I got it, and it worked). 

Now, I like posting pictures.  I understand from quite a few of you that you like seeing my pictures, because you think my model railroad is kind of neat.  I like sharing my model railroad with you guys and I like having you guys share your model railroads with me, because in turn, I think YOUR model railroads are neat.  It's a kind of nice co-operation we have, realizing that we share the same hobby and--yes--occasional frustrations with the hobby, and letting each other know that when we've done something well, we're ALL proud of it. 

I have tried every hint that everyone has given me about posting pictures (even Bergie) and they STILL won't show up on the site.  Which makes me wonder about the new MR software (or hardware, or whatever it's called) being 'user-friendly'.  I'm on another site for model railroaders, and I have no problem at all.  Now I don't know diddly about Firewalls or Notepads (isn't that something you use to take notes on?), or IE 6, 7 or 1066, and I really don't think that my 66--soon to be 67--year old brain is ready to go back to Computer Kindergarten and start all over again---even up to replacing a computer just to be on a site that I like. 

Bergie's message to me was that I wasn't being specific about what I don't like about the new forum, and that change was necessary, and that we all have to even learn where the turn signal switch is on the newer model cars. 

Hey, Bergie--I DON'T DRIVE!!  I haven't driven for thirty years, ever since I found out about Public Transportation.  I wouldn't even know where the turn-signals were on a 1978 Mustang, for cryin' out loud.  And I AM being specific--I CAN'T POST ANYTHING BUT RANTS LIKE THIS ON THE NEW FORUM.  Okay? 

Sorry, I meant to start out calm about this.     

But from this old fart, it seems like the current Technology runs by the motto: "It ain't broke, but let's fix it, anyway!" 

Stupid motto.

Tom  

 

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Posted by dave9999 on Saturday, September 9, 2006 11:33 PM
Tom,
You haven't driven since you were 37 years old... wow!

Anyway, other than slow response times (which I experienced on the old forum), I don't see the problems with the new forum that a lot of you are dealing with.


I posted this pic with a simple paste command... sorry, I just don't see the problem. Good luck, Dave

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Posted by Bill H. on Sunday, September 10, 2006 2:48 AM
Well, Simon 1966 has said it well. 

Bergie was kind enough to send an e-mail explaining how to post pics. I've tried it, and it doesn't work. Apparently the problem is recognition. Hmmmmm. This is a problem to repair?

As stated, my right click button shows no option for pasting anything within this box. I can paste it into the "create link" pop-up box, but no further. Adding tags, whether here or there matters not.

There are others, within this very thread, who are also having problems. There appears to be a certain commonality? Who knows...
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Posted by pcarrell on Sunday, September 10, 2006 7:07 AM
If you want to paste something and you right click and aren't given that option, you can still do it using the key commands built into windows.  Just hold down the control button on your keyboard and while doing that hit the "V" key and it will paste whatever you've got copied.  To copy like that just hold down the control key and hit "C" and whatever you've got highlighted will be copied.  That's a basic windows function that goes back many generations of the program.  I don't know if IE7 kept that, but it works going back to at least windows 95, and maybe further.
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Posted by GUB on Sunday, September 10, 2006 9:10 AM
 tigerstripe wrote:

Me too,  I'm glad to see all the polls and trolls are gone. but it just ain't the same.

A lot fewer posts and new topics. Also before you could see the threads that are new and new replys

since your last visit that were a different color.  I dont know if I'm just stupid or what but I can't

figure out alot of the new features.

I also miss my daily Spacemouse fix.

Just hit the refresh button and the post you just read will turn to grey. I did not use the previous version for very long and really don't remember how good or bad it was compared to this version. But this current version is not bad. As with everything else there is a bit of a learning curve. Perhaps as time goes on additional features will be added to help us along. But, it really is not all that bad.

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Posted by dave9999 on Sunday, September 10, 2006 9:56 AM
 pcarrell wrote:
If you want to paste something and you right click and aren't given that option, you can still do it using the key commands built into windows.  Just hold down the control button on your keyboard and while doing that hit the "V" key and it will paste whatever you've got copied.  To copy like that just hold down the control key and hit "C" and whatever you've got highlighted will be copied.  That's a basic windows function that goes back many generations of the program.  I don't know if IE7 kept that, but it works going back to at least windows 95, and maybe further.


Correct Phillip. I use Netscape and I don't have the paste command in my right click menu either. And
if these folks don't want to go to the trouble of taking their hand off of the mouse(which I know is a
huge problem. *sarcasm*), you can simply click the "edit" menu at the top of the window and then click "paste". These are very minor issues that are being blown WAY up. Good luck, Dave
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, September 10, 2006 10:00 AM

Ok does anyone else experience this issue I have.?

When I get the reply window and start typing the damn screen goes up and down so it keeps moving and I always think I hit a wrong key.  It does it constantly and every single time.  In fact it is doing it right now as I type.  It is the weirdest thing and this has happened since the new forum.    When and if I make a mistake I have to hit the backspace button to delete it, it may take me hitting it 5 times for three letters because of the way it jumps up and down.  It is aprobably hard for you to understand iunless you are having the same issue?

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Posted by pcarrell on Sunday, September 10, 2006 10:01 AM

Dave9999,

 

That's another way to do it.  I'm from the dawn of DOS days, so key commands are natural for me.

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Posted by pcarrell on Sunday, September 10, 2006 10:04 AM
That's a new one Goldmine.  What operating system are you using?
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Posted by Bill H. on Sunday, September 10, 2006 11:33 AM



Control V ? Hmmmm... Welcome to DOS 1985. (At least it seems to work) Thanks for the clue.

BTW: Taking my hand off the mouse is cetainly "no problem", not as much as reading posts where the differences between asterisks and quotation marks seems unknown, but then, I was never one to claim to know everything, either...
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Posted by dave9999 on Sunday, September 10, 2006 12:10 PM
 Bill H. wrote:

 
BTW: Taking my hand off the mouse is cetainly "no problem", not as much as reading posts where the differences between asterisks and quotation marks seems unknown, but then, I was never one to claim to know everything, either...


Laugh [(-D]

Bill,
Good thing that you don't claim to know everything, neither do I. But, in this new fangled forum ease, the use of asterisks is used to denote a tone or emotion. You see, I was trying to express that what I was saying was to be taken as sarcasm. I was not quoting the word sarcasm... if I were I would have used the quotation marks. Example: This is five minutes of my life that I will never get back. *sarcasm*
Good luck. Dave

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Posted by Bill H. on Sunday, September 10, 2006 1:30 PM
 dave9999 wrote:
In this new fangled forum ease, the use of asterisks is used to denote a tone or emotion. You see, I was trying to express that what I was saying was to be taken as sarcasm. I was not quoting the word sarcasm... if I were I would have used the quotation marks. Example: This is five minutes of my life that I will never get back. *sarcasm*
Good luck. Dave



I see, now I'm having explanations which in reality are thinly disguised lessons in grammar, as believed to be status quo by the poster. Interesting... Let's look at this, shall we?

First, the tone of your post:

con·de·scen·sion (knd-snshn) 
n.
  1. The act of condescending or an instance of it.
  2. Patronizingly superior behavior or attitude.
Now, in the matter of your use of the asterisk:

Not much reinforces your contention.

Free On-line Dictionary of Computing -

asterisk

<character> "*" ASCII code 42. Common names include: star;
INTERCAL: splat; ITU-T: asterisk. Rare: wild card;
gear; dingle; mult; spider; aster; times; twinkle; glob;
Nathan Hale. Commonly used as the multiplication operator
and as the Kleene star.

Lastly,

If one wants to impart sarcasm, in an intelligent manner, one should first be somewhat fluent in the language being used. The use of random punctuation characters, at the writer's whim, does exactly the opposite.


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