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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Friday, November 3, 2006 6:48 PM
 MisterBeasley wrote:

Not only is he a smart guy, he's also apparantly a wise guy.  But smarts and wisdom aside, he did end up at the top of the page.  A Harpoon for me, Joe, and put it on Jeff's tab.

And what am I doing?  Sitting in front of the computer, while once again teenage girls have occupied the family room with my layout in it.  There is a price to pay for heat, air conditioning and carpet.  I did manage to get out my tools and a few old horn-hooked cars, so I'll head down to the workroom to put #5's on a few oldies but goodies.  I was thinking of starting my scratch-build of Burns Fuel, but the brewskis are already getting the better of me.  As I sincerly hope Mr. Bruschi will get the better of Mr. Manning on Sunday night.

Maybe that's one of the reasons I'm so happy that I'm single.

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Posted by MisterBeasley on Friday, November 3, 2006 6:36 PM

Not only is he a smart guy, he's also apparantly a wise guy.  But smarts and wisdom aside, he did end up at the top of the page.  A Harpoon for me, Joe, and put it on Jeff's tab.

And what am I doing?  Sitting in front of the computer, while once again teenage girls have occupied the family room with my layout in it.  There is a price to pay for heat, air conditioning and carpet.  I did manage to get out my tools and a few old horn-hooked cars, so I'll head down to the workroom to put #5's on a few oldies but goodies.  I was thinking of starting my scratch-build of Burns Fuel, but the brewskis are already getting the better of me.  As I sincerly hope Mr. Bruschi will get the better of Mr. Manning on Sunday night.

It takes an iron man to play with a toy iron horse. 

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Friday, November 3, 2006 6:07 PM

David: I can take care of my own horn tooting, thank you.

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Posted by Train Master on Friday, November 3, 2006 4:03 PM
told you hes a smart guy

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Friday, November 3, 2006 3:07 PM
JB: I figured it was a leaky gasket causing your headaches. Good work getting it running. You got lucky there. If that's a Tecumseh it probably has a Weber carburator. They're great when they work, but when they don't they're a major PITA. Happy splitting.

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Posted by colvinbackshop on Friday, November 3, 2006 1:31 PM

Good afternoon.

Well, the splitter is running again! Seems that I was suffering from a leaky gasket...But mostly from "crap" in the tank! Yes, I flushed it out and refilled with fresh "go juice" more than once...But maybe not well enough. So after removing the tank, doing a VERY good cleaning, a little form-a-gasket up on re-insatalling the carb, all is again right in "Firewood Land"!

With that, and hey, it's after noon....Set up a round for the house, Joe! As a matter of fact, keep them "wet" all afternoon (at least until I have to go to work!)

Gotta' run. 

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Posted by Train Master on Friday, November 3, 2006 6:41 AM

JB: i would lay odds on the gaskets and the ignition being the problem. that what jeff had to fix on my dads old yard tractor. hes one smart cookie. my dad thought the problem was the carb, turned out to be a split gasket and a dirty magneto

gettin ready to head for the school and do more learning, yeah, right! get a headache more likely. later

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Friday, November 3, 2006 6:25 AM

Dave, Ed, JB: It was very good news on the Dr's. report and you're right, it's  a tremendous load off my mind. Maybe I'll have time to get this layout done.

Just getting ready to head out for work, best get at it.

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Posted by colvinbackshop on Thursday, November 2, 2006 11:57 PM

Joe, I'll take a Summit Extra Pale Ale with a twist of lime tonight! Oh, and set up the house for these fine folk too!

Thanks guys for the suggestions, I will take them ALL under advisement. I too, was thinking that an air leak of some sort could be the trouble. NO, I haven't changed out the gasket between the carb. and intake, nor looked at the intake to the cylinder either...Hadn't thought about timeing / ignition! All very good points! For now...At least it is in a heated garage with a floor....No worries about droping small screws, nuts, bolts & parts into the gravel.

For whatever it may be worth to you guys (regarding your knoweledge base of internal combustion engines) the engine on the splitter is a Tecumseh 8HP (it may be a 10, but I'm pretty sure it's an 8) Chore King.

As far as the remaining morning, after my last post, I did spend time in the Trainroom! And now have it cleaned up enough to do some work / play in there. Also did a little work on the library project, getting some of the paneling up, this afternoon before heading for town. Other than having the troubles with the "Internal Combustion Gods", life is good.

BTW, GUB, I got your note and address regarding the Dinning Car idea and I now have you added to the group. Anybody else interested in sharing recipes fit to be served in the Dinning Car...Just send me an email with your email address and I'll be happy to include you in the group!

Joe, one more for me and the house!

Latter guys.......

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Thursday, November 2, 2006 10:03 PM
Spray a thick soap solution on the places where the carb meets the engines and see if that improves the performance, if it does, you need a new gasket. At the same time, watch to see where any solution gets sucked in. That will tell you where the leak is.

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Posted by TheK4Kid on Thursday, November 2, 2006 6:33 PM

Could also have a vacuum leak, because when you close the choke, it increases in RPM.
If it set since last year, a gasket could have dried up, and leaking air.
And that can be a hard rascal to find!
When you changed carbs, did you use the old gasket or a new one?
Does this thing have a vacuum advance?
Not knowing what kind of a motor it is, it's hard to say where it might be defective.
If it has a magneto, that could be a problem, and does it have points?
If so Jeffrey could be correct.
It dies under load?
But at almost full choke under no load it runs fine?
Sounds like it's drawing air in somewhere, and not thru the carb.

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Thursday, November 2, 2006 5:16 PM
JB: You must have made old Mr. Murphy mad. Sounds to me like you need a new carb for that wood splitter. Maybe some magneto and point work as well. Hope you get it going, otherwise you'll have to break out the sledg hammer and wedges and split that wood the old fashioned way. You'll have to work! That's a dirty word round here where I live.

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Posted by colvinbackshop on Thursday, November 2, 2006 10:42 AM

Good morning! I'll have a coffee and a brandy again this morning Joe. Need to take the chill off again!

Just came in for the great outdoors (it's 22 F this morning) still trying to get the wood splitter running right....But, I have now officially given up! Not to mention, I'm as mad as a wet hen!!

When I bought it three years ago (used, home made, but nicely built and maintained) it ran good. Then that fall, it started to "hunt" for RPM, not a lot but some and I thought "no big deal" and it's run this way since. Then this spring, while still "hunting" it would run for a while, then stop. After re-starting, it would again run for a while, then stop.

Sooo...I took the carb. off (BTW, it's one of those new jobs that doesn't have any adjustments on it), disassembled the bowl, cleaned it out along with the tank, refilled with fresh gas and away we go. It still hunted for RMP, but continued to run! Yes! All was right in "Firewood Land"....Until this fall, when the darn thing wouldn't run at all.

Round two, again cleaning everything and a new spark plug...Still nothing. Next step; remove the "new" carb. and replace it with the "old" one (it was in the box of stuff that came with the splitter) that actually has a choke and adjustments. REJOICE! It starts right up and runs great...until the choke is taken off. Even after a long warm up period it won't run without the choke being almost closed.....No problem, I'll just make some adjustments and all will be right!

Right...But now every time the engine is under any load...It dies! I give up! Maybe I'll forego the coffee the next go-round Joe...Make it just a brandy, straight up.

OK, I know this ranting / venting isn't MRR related...directly, but the sooner I can get those outdoor chores done, the sooner I can get into the Trainroom. Huuuuummmm...Perhaps I'll do that for the remainder of the morning and then continue to address the internal combustion problem....Tomorrow!

Have a good one guys!

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Posted by TheK4Kid on Thursday, November 2, 2006 9:49 AM

Thanks Colvin!
 Everyone have a good day!
Just browsing the forums looking for anything of interest.
Good luck with the job Jeffrey.
I got a call this morning about a new job myself, looks like I got it!
Have to go take a physical eaxam for them, see you all later.
Home everyday, off weekends, maybe a 10 to 12 hour day, but hey it will keep my layout funded!

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Posted by MisterBeasley on Thursday, November 2, 2006 8:00 AM

The cat's away, so the mice will play.  My wife's gone to Florida to visit her parents for a week, so I've got a lot of layout time planned.  Last night, I glued down the track up to the coal dumping facility, and glued down the roadbed for the caboose track in the yard.  I also got some green paint on the dirt-brown gypsolite hills, and test-sprinkled on a bit of turf just to see what it would look like.  Finally, I assembled the Kadee #307 electromagnet uncoupler that will go on the main line.

Today, I'm going to rip up some bad track so I can put it down again right this time.  Hopefully, I can recycle that rail on to the caboose siding.  (It was glued but not ballasted yet.)  Then some gypsolite and plaster cloth work.  Hopefully, I can get a significant amount of ballasting done over the weekend.

I'm gonna be thirsty.  I'd better start with a Harpoon right now and get ahead of the game...

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Thursday, November 2, 2006 7:34 AM

You all have a good one. Work calls. Gotta go! I'll be back later today.

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Posted by Train Master on Thursday, November 2, 2006 7:18 AM
very great news on the dr report, i will be able to bug him longer about playing with his layout, that is, until he gets mine built.

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Posted by colvinbackshop on Thursday, November 2, 2006 12:45 AM

Hi guys!! Joe, I'll have a cold one and how about throwing a pizza in the oven...I'm starving, not having taken time to eat since 1400 this afternoon.

And speaking of eating, I guess I'm blessed. I love to cook and eat, and I can eat pretty big too. At 6' I've been between 185 and 195 for the past 25 years. Actually I weighed 195 forty years ago as a 9th. grader. Drove my mother nuts trying to alter pants, as I had a 30" waist back then, and to make my legs fit, the waist and butt always needed to have a lot of altering done. Thinking back, I was a little  obsessed with not having a baggy butt dragging along behind...Now a days, I would fit right in with the bangers and their pants that have the butt down to the knees..Ha!

Great news on the Dr. reports Jeff and GUB! looking forward to seeing you guys here at the "Barn" for many years to come! My Dr. always gives me the 50 / 50 guarantee: Another 50 years, or 50 feet out the front door of the clinic, which ever the case may be...That's a bit of a hoot.

As for exercising...Have any of you thought about swimming or water aerobics? I swim at least twice a week and really should do so more often. I used to swim 5 times a week, before schedules got SO TIGHT! I have also lead a water aerobics class! That was a lot of fun, doing the exercising to some really great music! Anyway...Just some food for thought, as doing a workout in the water, really is a "low impact" activity.

BTW, Ed...Good for you! Keep up the good work! There really never is any guarantee, but keeping fit must certainly help in the long run. 

How's that pizza coming along Joe? And another cold one too, Please.

GUB, I do strongly advocate the code 100 track, mostly because of the cost and availability...But also, because I can run ANYTHING on it. I have some older rolling stock and locos (from the 1st. 4x8 empire in 1959) that may or may not have RP-25 wheel sets / flanges, and I don't have to worry at all....anything will run and track well.

I also personally think you are making the right choice with Digitrax. Although I can't compare any of the systems, I am very pleased with mine. Sorry I can't make a recommendation on which system (my Big Boy hasn't been made for some years now) but I would mostly consider what you want from the system, along with how many locos / addresses you will be running and go from there with a comparison of the systems. Also check with others as to the successes and short falls of the new systems.

Well...Enough rambling...Set up a round for the house Joe. And keep the change. Then I've got to go!

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Posted by TheK4Kid on Wednesday, November 1, 2006 8:53 PM

Jeffrey,
Sorry to hear that.
I guess all you can do is enjoy yor hobbies, and make the best of it.
Proabbly should consider myself very fortunate to be as healthy as I am at my age.
Just seen to many of my fellow drivers at work slowly drop out.
Especially when they were younger than myself.
It is a high stress job, and long hours, don't know how I made it this far.
But I was having some problems when my friend Greta finally made me wake up to
where I might be headed when a buddy of mine passed away.,cardiac arrest took his life at 42.
Worked with him one day, the next he was gone.
Since then , I've  changed the way I eat, get more excercise, and got back into my hobbies more,
taking a lot of the stress off of me.
There's more to life than working as much as I had been for almost the last 28 years.
I guess all we can do is take what life deals us, and make the best of it.
Anyway, I do wish you the best Jeffrey!


That guy you said "Well maybe just one".
If he's who I think he is, he's hiding in a cave in the middle east.
Too bad he turned out the way he did. With his money or his families, he could have had a really nice train layout.
Has to beat hiding and living in a cave.


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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Wednesday, November 1, 2006 8:30 PM
Ed: Big problem! I can't walk, except for short distances, less than 400 feet. I suffer from Charcot foot, a nasty complication of diabetes. The foot bones become infused with sugar, causing them to fracture and break like chalk. At the same time, neuropathy caused by the diabetes keeps me from feeling the damage so I just keep right on going until it's too late. And that's exactly what happened. My right foot is so messed up that I know have a reversed arch and the bones are pressing hard against the bottom of my foot. The condition is doing it's darndest to move over to my left foot now and it doesn't stop at the feet. It advances up the legs eating away at the bones. As I said, a very nasty condition. I wouldn't wish it own my worst enemy. Well, maybe just one.

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Posted by TheK4Kid on Wednesday, November 1, 2006 8:07 PM
Hi Jeffrey,
Gladto hear the good news.
If you're able to, just walk as much as you can, drink lots of water,it will help you lose weight.
A year ago I was 265 pounds, 6 feet tall, so to much weight.
A very good friend of mine  I went to school with as a kid and high school together got me involved with her company and got me excercising again.I really owe her for taking such an interest.
We've been friends forever it seems like.

Fairly hard to do for guy who was a local semi-truck driver working 14 hours , 5 days a week.
Anyway, today I weigh 226, still have a ways to go.I do feel better!
My goal is about 190 to 200.
I really try and walk everyday between 3 to 5 miles and drink almost a gallon of water a day, but it helps!
There are days when it's hard to get motivated!
I had to get off the program for awhile, but got back on when the company I drove for went bankrupt recently, and put me out of work. I have worked off and on part time trying to nail down another local job, hate to go back out on the road and be gone all week, only home on weekends, as that has been all that was available until now.
Most all the union outfits have been laying off up here.
I was fortunate to  have saved for a rainy day.
Going back to work next week, so things looking up here too . If anyone is interested, my friends company she founded 13 years ago is called  Fit Camp and is open to people from all walks of life.

www.fitcamp.com/

Basically she got me started in the right direction to contnue to lose weight, now it's just a matter of staying motivated.
While off work, I got up every morning, pulled on my walking shoes, and my headset radio, and strted walking.
Lost 20 pounds since I was off work. Not easy to do.
But I probably won't end up with a heart attack like so many of my buddies at work did.
I'm 55, and when you see guys 38 to 48 dropping over dead, it scares you!

But it's REALLY GOOD to hear you'll probably live to be an OLD GEEZER!!!!
Must be a HUGE WEIGHT off your shoulders and STRESS RELIEF to get the Doc's report!

Okay, it's time to get started on your next 17 layouts!!! LOL!

Ed up north in Indiana.
Getting down to 27 degrees tonight! BRRRRRRR!!!!!
Good night to go downstairs and work on the Pennsy!


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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Wednesday, November 1, 2006 8:00 PM
That sounds about the same as me. When I got out of high school I weighed 115 pounds and could hide behind a flagpole, literally!

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Posted by GUB on Wednesday, November 1, 2006 7:42 PM

At present I am 261 Lbs. and 6'-3" In high school grade nine was 110 Lbs. in grade 9. Everthing changes, especially after 40.

Have fun at work tomorrow.

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Wednesday, November 1, 2006 7:38 PM

 GUB wrote:
The good news is the Dr. thinks i have a very good chance of living a long life. But no guarantees. I do however, have to change my diet, loose 61 pounds, stop snaking, cut out drinking, well maybe cut down and some how reduce the stress in my life.

Man, you're gonna waste away to nothing! You must be bigger than I am. I'm 5' 11" and 238 pounds.

BTW, looks like I'm going back to work tomorrow. The workshop called today and said they have some work for me to do. I have to be there at 8:00am.

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Posted by GUB on Wednesday, November 1, 2006 6:11 PM

Okay, I am back.

JB - You should have a email from me by now. I do look forward to your recipes.

For all those that responded to my question about which DCC system to buy, thankyou. Decidedly I beleive it will be Digitrax. Now the only thing I have to decide is which one. I will be going up into the very cold and dark attic to get some dimensions a little later or not.

However I was somewhat disappointed has to the response or I should say to the lack of respones to the other question. Code 100 or 83. I could surmise that perhaps it doesn't really matter what code track most of you use and that code 100 is acceptable. BTW I am just gidding as to my disappointment. I am hurt, but nothing another Scotch won't fix. I'm gidding!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I am also quite bored. There is no one here tonight. Oh well.....

GUB

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Posted by GUB on Wednesday, November 1, 2006 5:49 PM
 jeffrey-wimberly wrote:

Just got the report from the doctors office. My tests came back clean. No evidence of cancer in my system. They said just continue taking the medicine they have me on. So what I have is just a moderately enlarged prostate gland. It's a relief to know that.

Jeffrey - glad to hear the good news. I came back from the doctors as well yesterday. Unfortunately she could not tell wether or no my prostrate was enlarged. ThePSA text and the blood work all came back clean, but she wants to be sure so I have to be checked out by a Urologist just to be sure.  Refer to my first post today and you will see what else I have to do. But I am glad that your tests came back clean.

GUB

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Posted by GUB on Wednesday, November 1, 2006 5:42 PM
 colvinbackshop wrote:

BTW, GUB and Mr. B...I sent out an email regarding the "Dinning Car" thing regarding recipes. Haven't heard from you two yet...Just wondering?

JB Haven't forgot. I have been out of town for the past few days checking out some jobs were doing, well actually one huge project. I will find your email and send you mine. I like the idea. I just have to find it. I know it's here somewhere. Now... where did I put it.... No it's not there.... I know it is here somewhere. Oh well ... as soon as I find it I will get back to you.

GUB

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Posted by GUB on Wednesday, November 1, 2006 5:36 PM

Gawd... back on page 2? I don't think so. I'll have a scotch and maybe you can leave the bottle just this once. The good news is the Dr. thinks i have a very good chance of living a long life. But no guarantees. I do however, have to change my diet, loose 61 pounds, stop snaking, cut out drinking, well maybe cut down and some how reduce the stress in my life. But other than that things are good.

Haven't been here in a while so maybe I should do some back reading and continue this later. So pardon me while I get caught up.

Will chack back later.

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Posted by MisterBeasley on Wednesday, November 1, 2006 11:17 AM

I'll drink to that.  You will too, by the way.  What's your pleasure?  Harpoon IPA for me.

Sorry, I'm on the forums most every day, but I don't check my home e-mail all that often.

And yeah, teenage girls are fun but trying.  Your daughter sounds exactly like mine.  Field hockey and evening Driver Ed classes just ended abruptly, and now we have a brief reprieve before Ski Team starts up, and then shortly after that we'll have many weekends tied up on the slopes.  (Not that I'm complaining - the family sport is great fun for all of us, even though we all ski at different levels, and I'm no longer the Alpha skier of the bunch.)  Still, it's better to have them doing something like this than hanging out with the wrong crowd and getting into trouble.

It takes an iron man to play with a toy iron horse. 

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Wednesday, November 1, 2006 11:06 AM

Just got the report from the doctors office. My tests came back clean. No evidence of cancer in my system. They said just continue taking the medicine they have me on. So what I have is just a moderately enlarged prostate gland. It's a relief to know that.

It's raining here now, a sprinkle really. We're supposed to be having a 40% chance  of thunderstorms today.

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