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Posted by Bergie on Thursday, March 20, 2008 3:08 PM

Maintenance time...

I'm looking this thread.... please feel free to start a "part II" if you wish.

Again, this is simply maintenance... the forum is dragging around a thread with 109 pages and over 2100 posts. Probably not the best thing for performace.

Thanks,
Bergie

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Posted by colvinbackshop on Thursday, March 20, 2008 2:49 PM

JB,  How is this project coming?

Actually Sue...Very little! Remember the part about me jumping from project to project? I did get some done here, but I have been on the other side of the peninsula for a while.

As for the SL Backshop: I cut the "plastic foundation" from in-between the big doors so that the trackage would fit better and I would be able to remove the structure if and when needed. I also got the cork (interior floor) painted a flat black, now ready for some detail and a partition and a light installed for the office area.

The thought here is to lay wood planking, some interior and mostly exterior, to depict the major maintenance work area. I also have a Brownhoist Pillar Crane and numerous details for the planked area directly it front of the shop. Sadly....That all may be well off in the future! But I am plugging away!

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Posted by gear-jammer on Thursday, March 20, 2008 10:04 AM

Joe, I think that I will have a waffle and just coffee.  It is a little early to start spicing it up even if it is 5:00 somewhere.

 colvinbackshop wrote:

JB,  How is this project coming?

Mike,  Hobby shops can be dangerous to your pocket book.  Sounds like you controlled yourself.

MrB,  Did you get around to painting that CMX cleaning car? Or did you  leave it brass colored?

George,  We haven't heard from you lately.  Are you still dropping by to keep a eye on us?  With a project as large as yours, it could be easy to forget everything else. 

Sue

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Posted by mikesmowers on Thursday, March 20, 2008 9:20 AM

   Morning all. Joe I'll have a few flap-jacks this morning with my morning coffee, Thanks.

   I spent last weekend in Okla. City, Had a DR. appt. Monday morning. I went up Sat. afternoon and came home Tuesday afternoon. I had a good visit with my brother and nieces and nephew. My nephew drove me around while I was there, he knows the City much better than me. After the DR. appt. we went to Whistle Stop, My first time in a Hobby Shop. I was like a kid in a candy store, although I had very little $$$. I did pick some Kadee couplers for a couple of locos that I have had some trouble getting them to stay coupled. We also drove to several Hobby Lobby stores with a pocket full of 40% coupons I got enough N scale track to finish the main line for the N scale. I will more than likely be laying track today.

   I played with the HO scale last night, Had 48 cars, 2 GP38-2's, and a caboose. Looked pretty good and ran without any problems at all. I am trying to run the trains for a while on the track to make sure I like what I am doing so I will not have to change it around after I do the ballasting.       Be good to each other.       Mike

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Posted by gear-jammer on Wednesday, March 19, 2008 11:21 PM

I will have a Strumpet.  It sounds like just the ticket after a strenuous evening at the rock gym.

 Rock_climber  Chugger 

MrB,  I love the sign on the fence.  Did you do the decals on the barrels, too?  My Walthers order came.  Larry wanted the water tank from the sale catalog.  I didn't read well.  Was I shocked when it was a built-up.  He was tickled.  Just leave the hard stuff for me.Laugh [(-D]

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Posted by MisterBeasley on Wednesday, March 19, 2008 5:31 PM

Ah, hump day.  I'll have a Strumpet IPA, and a round for those that can stomach the stuff.  JB, sorry, stay away from it 'till your lungs clear up. 

Terry, could we get a tighter shot of the fence?  How did you make it?  We've both been "on the fence" this week.  I made mine with coffee stirrers.  I had to slice them in two lengthwise to get the right size, but overall the project didn't take much time.  I'm saving the wider view for Photo Phun this week, but I like this one better because it shows the Moxie sign:

End to end, the fence is only about 6 inches long, but it was fun and I think it really adds to the gas station.

Nasty and cold here.  Windy, about 35 degrees and raining.  The good news is that a few miles to the north it's snow, and yes, we will be taking The Whale (our white Toyota van) up to Sunday River again this week and the next, so the rain/snow line is right where we want it.

I plan to go to my LHS tomorrow, though, and pick up the booty from my latest raid on Walthers.  I'm also going to bring in the trolley and see if we can program the sound decoder with trolley sounds, so we can get it to stop sounding like a steam engine.  He's got a Digitrax programmer, but he hasn't done one of these, yet.  Should be an interesting experience.

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Posted by saronaterry on Wednesday, March 19, 2008 4:22 PM

Hey all! I'll have a tall tap, joe. Thanks.

Here's a second attempt at chain link fences.Whadaya think

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Posted by colvinbackshop on Wednesday, March 19, 2008 3:52 PM

Must be time for a Hot Toddy!!! I'm nursing a repertory flu...I and I don't like it.

I have spent some time in the Trainroom bashing a barn for the east peninsula scene, but with a fever I'm having a bit of trouble concentrating! ((Oh look, a chicken!))

Chuck, you say "I wish my panels were as simple as cab control". I've got to put a WOW in there as I always felt that wiring for the districts, rotary switches and all, with that type of control was a pain. That is why I went with DCC on the CCRY!

My mind sees hundreds of thousands of miles of wire with what you described! I hope you can make it all work as planned.

And as for MR articles in 1974: That was my period of absence from MRRing with my other life, with my other wife! So I didn't have opportunity to read up on this control system. I do have to say it sounds VERY interesting.

I'm thinking that I should get after a few chores (at least bring in some fire-wood) and then either take a nap or see how much damage I can do to that barn!

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Posted by gear-jammer on Tuesday, March 18, 2008 8:13 AM

Good morning.  A mexican omelette sounds tasty.

Just a short note before I head out for work.  I am crossing my fingers that the structures will arrive today while I am at work.  The trouble with Walthers is their use of snail mail instead of UPS.  Who knows when it will arrive.  My last order came when I was a home, and the mail carrier asked enough questions that I showed him the layout.  I delayed everyone elses mail that day, but it was great fun.Laugh [(-D]

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Posted by MisterBeasley on Tuesday, March 18, 2008 7:03 AM

Good morning, all.  I'll have some coffee and a Mexican omelette this morning, with an English muffin for crunchiness.  Thanks.

Still skiing up here in the frozen North.  Even though it's almost spring, we haven't seen much in the way of spring skiing.  It's been cold, and we even had a dusting-to-2-inches each night up at Sunday River.  Piles and piles of snow up there, despite the generally brown appearance of the landscape in Massachusetts.  We're hoping for a long season this year.

I keeping with my winter philosophy of doing small, completeable projects, I've been building a fence behind the gas station.  Once I put in the detail stuff, I realized that it was getting "lost" next to the tracks.  So, I decided a wood fence would border it nicely, and provide a background against which the details would show up better.  I liberated a few wood coffee stirrers from work, and then sliced them in 2 lengthwise to get thinner boards.  Then I used wood stain with India Ink to color them.  Since I've got an air hose for pumping tires at the Star Garage, I made up a decal that says "AIR" for the fence, and while I was at it, I found a Moxie ad online and made some of those, too.  (I used to read MAD Magazine a lot, you see.)  The decals are printed now, but I'm letting them dry completely before putting on the sealer coat.  I painted white rectangles on the fence last night, so that the colors will come out right when I apply the decals.

My Walthers stuff should be in to my LHS the end of the week.  I noticed that they had those Proto 2K Mather box cars on sale, RTR for $13.98.  I bought kits for $16.98 last year, and the RTR's were around $25.  These are really nice models, with old-style brake wheels mounted horizontally on the top of the car, metal grabs and metal wheels.  I'll have to swap out the plastic couplers, but other than that I think these cars are a steal.

How about some pictures?  I hope to get the fence up by the end of the week, and that will be my next scene.  Chuck, how about an under-table shot of Mission Control?  Sue, how are the new structures coming along?  Mike, how's the Honey-I-Shrunk-The-Trains layout coming?

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Posted by tomikawaTT on Monday, March 17, 2008 10:37 PM
 gear-jammer wrote:

Am I too late to join you for that Irish Coffee, Chuck? Laughing 

Not at all, Sue.  Two Irish Coffees, Joe, and keep the change.Smile [:)]

 I keep thinking that I will get back to my photos, but that would mean cleaning the junk off the layout.  It makes such a great work bench.

Sue

Mine resembles that!  Not so much the area that will eventually be the Tomikawa Tani Tetsudo, but the other peninsula that's intended to become Haruyama and the site of the Harukawa Rintetsu.  I'm going to have to build some rollaway cabinets to go under the benchwork to give all that 'stuff' a home.Cool [8D]

JB, I wish my panels were as simple as cab control.  It took articles in four different months of MR back in 1974 to describe the original version.  Mine is similar, but not quite the same.  It is VERY flexible:

  • A single operator at the Master Panel can operate the entire railroad in classic, "Run everything from a central point," mode.Captain [4:-)]
  • A single operator can walk along from station to station, operating one train from the Zone panels, lining up track circuits.  Switching is possible, since siding turnouts and uncoupling ramps can be controlled from the Zone panel, but not the Master panel.Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]
  • A group of folks can be assigned as tower operators to the Zone panels, passing trains from one panel to the ones on either side.  Additional operators could act as train crews, needing only to control locomotive direction and speed.Tongue [:P]
  • A single operator at the Master panel can handle all track power assignments and throw key switches, acting as a CTC operator.  Train crews simply run their own trains by orders and signal indications, pretty much like DCC but without the electronics.Approve [^]
  • The system incorporates, "Fire and forget," semi-automatic train operation.  A yardmaster can launch a train toward staging, then put it on disregard and go on about the job.  The train will run into staging and stop itself without further attention.  The same thing can be done with a train traveling between a station with an operator and another one with no operator present.  The train will run to the end of its timetable authority, then stop.Blindfold [X-)]

Effectively, there are TWO sets of cab selectors, plus panel-to-panel signal circuits and paralleled controls for key turnouts.  Hence the complication!  OTOH, once installed, it's really simple to use.Dunce [D)]

I see that somebody cleaned up a bunch of troll-prints.  Thanks, to whoever did it.Thumbs Up [tup]

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Posted by gear-jammer on Monday, March 17, 2008 9:22 PM

Am I too late to join you for that Irish Coffee, Chuck? Laughing 

I know that JB & Terry have been in. 

 I was hoping that my order from Walthers would greet tonight.  Maybe tomorrow. 

 I keep thinking that I will get back to my photos, but that would mean cleaning the junk off the layout.  It makes such a great work bench.

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Posted by saronaterry on Monday, March 17, 2008 4:00 PM

Aye'd rather a bottle in front a me thien a frontal lobotomy, on me Friend JB,too!

Terry(O'Brien)

 

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Posted by colvinbackshop on Monday, March 17, 2008 3:47 PM

And a Happy St. Patrick's Day to you all and let me buy a round...And then...

Even though you have to really use your imagination, I just sang "Here's a Health to the Company" (old traditional folk) and now have a pt. or two in front of me to put down. Also a good old tradition...Sing a song for a pt. of ale!!

Chuck, it sounds like you have a major project going. Is this wiring for cab control?

I've been overwhelmed with other work of late and haven't gotten out to the Trainroom. I do, however, hope to get there for a bit this afternoon...Looking to bash a barn to add to a homestead scene on the E. side of the upper peninsula.

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Posted by tomikawaTT on Monday, March 17, 2008 10:07 AM
 gear-jammer wrote:
 

 St. Patty's Day Kick 

Happy St. Patricks Day.

Sue

And the top o' the marnin' to ye, Sue.  Would ye care ta jine me in an Irish Coffee?  (My two Irish grandmothers are probably talking to God about now.  Something about aiming a thunderbolt...Evil [}:)])

Found something in one of those bits of medical junk mail that seem to shower down on folks old enough to qualify for Medicare.  Seems that Irish Coffee might be useful in immediate first aid for stroke.  Something about the alcohol relaxing the blood vessels and the caffiene(sp?) speeding up blood flow...Confused [%-)]

Lately, my time has been spent connecting short pieces of wire from solder lugs on electrical switches to stud terminals on the Nonomura panel terminal block.  When I mentioned that the MZL system is user-friendly, I was referring to the operator's view.  The installation is rather like wiring an analog computer.  Not complaining, I knew what I was letting myself in for - but I've been proving the second half of Cheop's Law (Everything ... takes longer.)Banged Head [banghead]

The fact that I've totally disrupted my sleep cycle, napping during what would ordinarily be prime building time so I can watch the Osaka Basho (Grand Sumo Tournament) between midnight and 0200, hasn't sped up the process.  The good part is that several rishiki my wife and I like have already secured their places by winning eight matches - and there are still six days to go...Big Smile [:D]

Looking at a couple of threads has me suspecting that everyone's favorite troll has reincarnated himself as "softball fanatic."  I haven't checked to see if Bergie has driven a stake through his heart yet.Pirate [oX)]

Well, I'm off to the races - the turtle races, that being my speed lately.Laugh [(-D]

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Posted by gear-jammer on Monday, March 17, 2008 8:24 AM

Not much activity here.  I hope that means that everyone has been busy with their layouts.

 St. Patty's Day Kick 

Happy St. Patricks Day.

Sue

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Posted by colvinbackshop on Monday, March 17, 2008 12:05 AM

I'll buy a round...And get by pretty cheap by the looks of it.

What's everybody up to?

I've been WAY busy with union stuff...We may even have a contract soon.

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Posted by gear-jammer on Thursday, March 13, 2008 8:27 PM

Thanks, JB.  I know that it is 5:00 somewhere.

We did some switching last night.  It is always fun watching the long train stretch out. 

I have an appointment with our tax lady on Saturday.  That should take some of the stress off.

Oh, yeah.  I placed an order with Walthers on Monday.  They had some of our yard structures on sale.  The wood coal tower for one.  I can't wait to replace the paper footprints with actual structures.

Later,  Sue

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Posted by colvinbackshop on Thursday, March 13, 2008 1:13 AM

Just got in from work...I'll buy you one Sue!

Been too busy with other stuff to get out to the Trainroom...But I'm hoping to get there this week yet!

Terry, I hope that I answered your questions on the "turnout thread". I have some questions too, and asked but haven't gotten a responce yet...Maybe!

I've got another long day tomorrow with union stuff, and it's getting late, so I'd better hit the hay!

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Posted by gear-jammer on Wednesday, March 12, 2008 9:31 PM

Yes,  a bloody Mary sounds great.

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Posted by saronaterry on Monday, March 10, 2008 11:39 AM

I'll have a Bloody Mary, thru the garden again,Joe.

 Saw the thread,JB, that was GREAT! I  ,and another guy, do have a ? Where did you get the piping and other stuff? Napa or the like?

Terry

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Posted by mikesmowers on Monday, March 10, 2008 10:52 AM

  Morning all. Joe, I'll have the ham and eggs breakfast this morning.

   colvin, The layout in the out building is mostly history as of last Wednesday. Not much out there but the tables, some track and mountains with trees which will be removed as I need them.  I did get to run the trolly and it runs but not good, the lights don't flicker but it doesn't run smooth and makes a lot of noise, like maybe a gear problem. I think I am going to take it apart and have a look at the gears and do a good cleaning, luberication on and see what happens from there. Any advice?      Mike 

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Posted by colvinbackshop on Monday, March 10, 2008 10:30 AM

Good morning: A big breakfast and an Irish coffee this morning if you please.

We're back in the freezer again last night and this morning! After a warm day yesterday...It's only up to 8 above so far today!! Don't know that I want to move to Nevada just yet, but Carson City is a pretty nice area!

Sue, I did give A LOT of thought to the names and locations on the CCRY. Even though freelanced, it is a "What If" scenario and is based on an actual location (Minnesota's Arrowhead), actual trackage (mostly long gone) and a purpose. Doing that research was fun too! I should post a trackplan someday, as reference to the sites talked about.

I did finish up my "Turnout Tutorial" and posted it this morning. Terry, I hope that it addresses any questions that you may have. Actually, with it being my first attempt at writing a "how to" to post here, I hope it turned out helpful and easy enough to understand.

Gotta' get after the chores and projects...So latter all.

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Posted by gear-jammer on Monday, March 10, 2008 9:49 AM

Happy Birthday, MrB.  Has it been a whole year?  I forgot that we share March as a birthday month.

 Beer Frau   Cookies 

Beer and chocolate chip cookies go well together.

Larry does the electronics work for our layout.  He had some serious issues with decoders with our MDC's.  Once he discovered that they were wired backwards, he was able to straighten them out.  We did give up on sound with them.  $$$$

Mike,  If I had layouts in different rooms, I would not focus well.

JB,  I love when you guys reference different locations on your layouts.  We need to name our different towns.  Thanks for the motivation.

Chuck,  Our rain is back after a couple of weeks of occasional sprinkles.  When we get taxed out of Washington, we will probably move to Nevada.  We have considered the Carsen City area. 

Let's party all day with MrB.

 Happy Birthday 

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Posted by colvinbackshop on Sunday, March 9, 2008 11:46 PM

Happy B-Day Mr. B!!!! I sure hope you had a great one! And thanks for the cold one.

We're warm and sunny today, after a pretty cold week. I too, was skiing today with the last session of the MYSL lessons. What a great way to finish up the ski lessons, with temps. in the 20's, a mild breeze, strong and warm sun, and a hot coco break around a bon-fire about 1/3 of the way down "THE WALL" (a vertical drop of about 400') on skinny skis! It was just a wonderful day to be out on the boards!

Mike, I'm thinking I may be confused. Are you giving up your HO, or keeping that out in the barn with a new "N" pike up-stairs? And thanks for the pics to both you and Sue.

Sounds like we have all been pretty busy with our RR empires lately! I love hearing of all the progress. Chuck, we really would love to "SEE" your progress. It really sounds interesting....Maybe we all need to chip in and get you a camera!

Other than the normal chores around the place and some skiing over the weekend I have been working on the "Turnout Tutorial" a little, but mostly I've been finishing up the fueling facility project for Cascade Jct. I really like the way it has turned out! Yes, I kit-bashed and painted a little, but it's mostly out of the box and fits well.

Right now I have it sitting along a line with the tower behind the cross-over with pumps between the two mains heading for the helix, an oil column (for the steamers) and a pump (for the diesels) on the Sawbill Subdivision and an unloading rack on a siding at the front of the scene off that Sub. Guess, I should have done an overall view, but hope you get the jest. What do you think? Should the tanks be at the back of the scene?

Latter.

 

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Posted by tomikawaTT on Sunday, March 9, 2008 7:19 PM

Happy B-Day [bday] Mister Beasley, and thanks for the brew.  (just think - only 9 1/2 years more to get to where I already am.  Race you to 100?Laugh [(-D])

I couldn't get to sleep after the excitement last night (First day of the Osaka Basho.  The two Yokozuna won their matches against the Komusubi, but it was a bad night for the four Ozeki - all of whom are now 0-1.)  So I was laying in the dark with my eyes open when my cable box flipped from 1:59 to 3:00.  I guess that convinced my subconscious that it was time to ZZZZ out, because the next thing I knew, the sun was up.

Sue, the high temperatures in Sunny Southern Nevada have been in the 70's.  There are two mountain ranges between us and California's rain - darn it!  We need more precipitation to refill Lake Mead.

My layout project for the next ??? is the Nonomura zone panel.  It has to control fourteen powered turnouts, keep frog polarity straight on that spring switch and handle simultaneous operation of three trains, two through and one switching.  The MZL control system is user friendly, at the expense of being somewhat wiring-intensive.

Incidentally, N scale is 1:160, unless you model Japanese prototype.  In that case, it's 1:150!

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Posted by mikesmowers on Sunday, March 9, 2008 5:17 PM

Happy B'day Mr.B, I'll take you up on the cold brew and some nachos.

  Did everyone remember to change there clocks?       Mike
 

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Posted by MisterBeasley on Sunday, March 9, 2008 4:59 PM

Happy Birthday to me!  I turned 61.  I got a Happy Birthday e-mail from Trainboard/Railimages, where I host my photos.  A round on the birthday boy.  Nachos, too, because, well, cake just doesn't go with Strumpet IPA.

We were up skiing, but bagged it early because of howling winds.  The trails were all icy, and only the bunny lifts were turning.  So, I went down to the workroom and got the trolley assembled.  First, it wouldn't run at all, but I found a broken wire (poor quality control on a solder joint) and that got it up again.  With a bit of mechanical re-arrangement, I got all the parts stuffed inside, without too many obvious immense electronic devices in the passenger cabin.

This trolley is a Bachmann Peter Witt, a really nice model.  It comes with its own decoder, which may yet be a problem, but that's only a basic motion-and-lights unit.  I added on a Digitrax SFX0416, which provides sound plus some other functions.  The 0416 comes with selectable diesel or steam, but it can be programmed with other sound files.  I found a trolley "sound project," as Digitrax calls these things, on the Digitrax site, and downloaded the software and the data files.  My LHS has the required PR-2 unit to do the programming, although it's not hooked up yet.  I think that's going to be a learning experience for both of us.

If this works well, I'll probably get a PR-2 of my own.  I'd love to put sound in the other trolley, and in the Proto subway cars as well.  After that, it's on to the GP-9's and F7's to complete the sounding of the fleet.

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Posted by mikesmowers on Sunday, March 9, 2008 12:31 PM
   Sue, these pics are all in HO scale. The N scale is a whole different ball game, in another room from the HO. I am working upstairs in the N scale room this morning, I changed my mind again and am adding more N scale bench work. Maybe someday I will get it done and get my checks started again and can start on the track laying. I tried using the Model Power flex track and I think I like it better than the Atlas.       Mike
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