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Posted by SqueakyWheels on Wednesday, March 28, 2007 5:44 AM

Mister Beasley,

What you are doing there is very interesting. It brings another aspect to the hobby, regarding the beeswax, that I bet most people don't even think of.

And when it comes to being accurate in size, I don't think there really is a "one size fits all" in the stone industry. Pre-cast brick and blocks come in all shapes and forms in real life, so I don't thnk being prototypical here would really matter.

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Posted by MisterBeasley on Tuesday, March 27, 2007 11:16 PM

 Ibeamlicker wrote:
Just a bottle of Hamden ale,please and get everyone else what they want.Mister b is that a full size can of primer your octagons look kinda big no? 

Yes, they are larger than what I would consider the ideal prototype cobblestones.  But, this is the size that the bees like, and I don't see any reason that cobbles couldn't look like this.  It is a full-sized can of primer.  The honeycombs are about 3/16 of an inch across.

I think this will "represent" cobbles pretty well, even though they are definitely bigger than I would expect to see in the steam or transition eras.  They are actually not far from the "patio block" size I've seen at home improvement places.

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Posted by Ibeamlicker on Tuesday, March 27, 2007 4:51 PM
Just a bottle of Hamden ale,please and get everyone else what they want.Mister b is that a full size can of primer your octagons look kinda big no? 
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Posted by MisterBeasley on Tuesday, March 27, 2007 6:55 AM

Good morning, ladies and gents.  Coffee, eggs and hash, with an English muffin, please.  Yum.

I got up early this morning to have a few extra minutes to take my latest hydrocal casting from the mold.  This is the first pour in my hexagonal cobblestone mold, the one I made from a section of plastic honeycomb used by beekeepers.  I started with modelling clay and rolled it on the honeycomb (using the first "roller" I could get my hands on)

Here's the result, after I trimmed the edges a bit:

I used that clay "positive" to make a latex mold, using Woodland Scenics liquid latex:

That's it for the action photos.  The casting came out great.  This will probably be a test casting that I'll use to get the painting right.  Meanwhile, I'll make up a couple of these a day (they're 2 1/2 by 6 inches) and fit them into place so I can do the whole paint job at once and have a uniform appearance.

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Posted by colvinbackshop on Monday, March 26, 2007 11:43 PM

Howdy...I'll take a tall, old, tap please...And set the house Joe!

Wow, Mike...How lucky to have a quarry near by that you can get "rock" at. Here, where I'm at on the "Range" the rock /sand is very magnetic (iron ore country) and we have NO quarries....Just Iron ore and taconite mines! 

I do feel as though ballasting is my most "least fun" duty...But I'm thinking that with the real thing, it will go better!

Regarding "native" sand / dirt, I do have a number of grades of sifted sand, from VERY fine to Medium, that I use either on dirt roads, yards, hillsides and even on some spurs as ballast...But I really do have to rely on commercial ballast for the remaining roadbeds. Just a matter of where you live and what is locally available.

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Posted by colvinbackshop on Monday, March 26, 2007 11:39 PM

Howdy all...I'll take a tall, old, tap please...And set the house up too Joe!

Wow, Mike...How lucky to have a quarry near by that you can get "rock" at. Here, where I'm at on the "Range" the rock /sand is very magnetic (iron ore country) and we have NO quarries....Just Iron ore and taconite mines! 

I do feel as though ballasting is my most "least fun" duty...But I'm thinking that with the real thing, it will go better!

Regarding "native" sand / dirt, I do have a number of grades of sifted sand, from VERY fine to Medium, that I use either on dirt roads, yards, hillsides and even on some spurs as ballast...But I really do have to rely on commercial ballast for the remaining roadbeds. Just a matter of where you live and what is locally available....I guess.

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Posted by mikesmowers on Saturday, March 24, 2007 9:07 AM

  Morning all,  Joe, I'll  have a cup of coffee and a stack of pancakes with peanut butter.

  Not mugh going on the RR this week, but a lot of going to the Dr. So far all good news, I haven't got the report on the stress test I took yesterday, I hope everything will be good.  

    colvin,  good luck on the time consuming task of balasting.  When I ballasted my tracks I went to the quarry and got 3 five gallon buckets of screenings, Got it home and had to wash it. After it was washed and dried, I then sifted it through various sizes of screen wire to get about 5 different grades and used it everywhere, from ballast to the  different size rock on the mountains.  Was defintally cheaper than buying it at Hobby Lobby since the kind people at the quarry did not charge me anything.

   I see my breakfast is here.   I will check in later.          Mike
 

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Posted by colvinbackshop on Friday, March 23, 2007 10:23 PM

Wow! Just you and me Joe! And I haven't been in for a while either.

Poor Squeaky is loosing money this week! I'm thinking I had better have a pitcher of something dark and a pizza too...Make it the house special..

Well....It's a done deal. I ordered about 35 lbs. (I think that was the final total) of ballast from AZ Rock & Mineral today!  Amazing how much is needed when you start adding it all up. As it stands now, I'm going to have to deal with using the Woodland Scenics ballast for the remaining Sawyer Lumber trackage (about 35') as I have that already mixed in a coffee can and ready to go! I'll have to try to do some "discharging" while working that trackage! I'm thinking that maybe a heavy copper wire "plugged" into the foam at one end (grounding myself too) and plugged into the ground receptacle at the other end might do something!

On the other hand, I now have (on the way, at least) all of the ballast needed for the DM&IR and the CCRY mains. I had to estimate a substantial part (over half) of this trackage, as I don't have any of the lower level in place yet, but I'm thinking that this amount of ballast should pretty much take care of the entire trackplan.

Phil was in true form while ordering..."Well, if you don't have enough you can always get more....I'm thinking I'll be in businesses for a little while yet. And if you have too much...Hey, I've seen my stuff for sale at swaps, shows and auctions too." Gotta' love that kind of life outlook! 

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Posted by colvinbackshop on Wednesday, March 21, 2007 10:02 AM

Thanks Mike! I'll have a big breakfast (hash and eggs) Joe.

And....Good to hear from you and know that all went well yesterday! Sounds like they are really doing a major inspection on you! The tread-mill / stress test, I can understand with your chest pain symptoms.....Maybe they just figure you're due for the rest too.

Talked to Phil (AZ Rock & Mineral) again this morning and have decided I'm going with the real thing for ballast. I need to "add up" the trackage that still needs ballast, along with all the proposed trackage and place an order today. I'm thinking that I will get most, if not all, I need now (Birthday money readily available and earmarked for the Trainroom) and have it on hand when ever I need it.

Thanks again for breakfast Mike! Think I'll take a cup of coffee to go and head for the Trainroom, calculator in hand.

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Posted by mikesmowers on Wednesday, March 21, 2007 8:32 AM

    Morning all Joe, I'll have a cup of you best coffee and a cople of scrambled eggs.

  I made it through everything allright, I don't think they found anything. I was in recovery when the Dr. came in and talked to me so I really don't remember it. I plan on calling his office when they open this morning. I don't know why he wouldn't let me work tody, I feel allright.  Oh well, maybe some traintime is in store for today. They are going to check my gall bladder next week with ultrasound and a stress test on the treadmill tommarrow.  Man, are they trying to kill me or save me?  LOL

    So much of my blabbering, Joe set up my friends with a cup of coffee or what ever they are having.        Mike

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Posted by MisterBeasley on Wednesday, March 21, 2007 7:28 AM

 jeffrey-wimberly wrote:
Oh how I remember that commercial! My father and I laughed so hard at that our sides hurt. That guy in the commercial uses Tobasco the same way I do, on everything.

Found it!  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBEL1X0PCmk for those who want to watch this great 30-second spot.

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Wednesday, March 21, 2007 4:00 AM
There should be some way to grtound the foam layout base to a metal pipe or metal electrical conduit to drain off the static electricity. You might want to check into that.

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Posted by colvinbackshop on Wednesday, March 21, 2007 1:33 AM

I'll have a tap Joe...Looks like just you and me tonight.

Jeffrey. Yup, I know it's the foam that's "generating" all the static electricity, but it's to late to abandoned that ship with most all of my upper level in place. And, I have to say I like working with it real well. It gives me a lot of flexibility regarding the types of landforms I'm doing, and it certainly is strong and light weight.

I'm just wondering if there is a way to ground / discharge the static when ballasting, using the Woodland Scenics type of stuff. I haven't had any problem with real stone ballast, but using the ground walnut shell...or what ever it is...Is a real adventure in frustration!

Speaking of foam: I got most all of the landforms (some large hills and two cuts) in place on the North wall benchwork today! I also worked on Charlie Walberg's Broadway Street Tavern (maybe it will end up as Louie's Saloon) for Sawbill Jct. It's a Down Town Deco structure and my first plaster kit. So far it's coming along pretty good, but I've only got the four walls glued together and the seams filled with spackle. Got a long way yet to go! We'll see how well I'll be able to paint and weather it, as I hear there are a few new tricks to learn to do it right.

I realize it's too late to say "Good Luck" Mike...So, I'll just say "Hope everything went well for you today"

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Posted by MisterBeasley on Tuesday, March 20, 2007 8:30 AM

If you had an old version, it may simply have run out.  AVG up-revved their free version, and discontinued support for the older one.  That was a couple of months ago, as I recall.  I downloaded the new one, which cleanly replaced the old one as far as I could see.  You'll need the newer one anyway to catch the latest threats.  And the price is still right.

I've found that XP with Service Pack 2 is sufficient to block the generic pop-ups with IE-whatever.  If you're getting a lot of pop-ups from random sites, you may have some spyware/adware issues.  Spybot may help with that.

As for that test, well, I had one a few months back, just routine for my age.  The stuff they gave me was a mild amnesiac, so I don't remember a thing.  But you've reminded me that I've got to take a look at the train-cam in front of my subway train - it's been acting up lately.

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Posted by mikesmowers on Tuesday, March 20, 2007 7:10 AM

    Thanks for the info, I also have had the free AGV for a couple of years, and the other day after I discovered the virius, the AGV was no longer active. I then downloaded the nwer one and ran a scan of the computer, and found like 122 viriuses.  I was on line this morning and again the AGV was no longer active. I am thinking that there is a virius that is killing my protection. Also I do  have a pop up  blocker installed and it doesn't seem to be working.  Maybe it is time to tke the computer to the hospital

    Joe, set ups for the house, got to go.           Mike 

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Posted by MisterBeasley on Tuesday, March 20, 2007 6:45 AM

I've got AVG Free Edition on my home systems.  I've been using them for years, and they've kept the machines clean, even my daughter's with teen chats and online gaming.

www.grisoft.com if you're interested.  Look around for the free edition - they also have "business class" products but you have to pay for those.

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Tuesday, March 20, 2007 6:16 AM
Mike: My fix for that was to get a spyware and pop-up blocker as well as an anti-virus program. I bought one that's all those in one, Defender Pro 5 in 1, available at Wal-mart for about $20. Also, delete your cookies.

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Posted by mikesmowers on Tuesday, March 20, 2007 5:39 AM

   Morning all, Joe I guess just set up the house this morning and nothing for me. I am going to the hospital in a while for some more test. Today they are going to run a scope down my throat and have a look around, then they will run one up my a** and look around. I sure hope I am totally out for that!! any one want to take my place? I am more than willing to share.

   Jeffrey, How is the best way to get the vireses and pop-ups out of this computer? Is there an easy fix? I wasn't giving any trouble until the other day and now I cannot hardley even get on the thing without pop-ups going crazy.

    Not much going on heree, a little train time and a lot of working time. Sound familuar to anyone? Got to run    Mike

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Tuesday, March 20, 2007 3:47 AM
I tried foam as a layout base once. Never again! Colvin, I think that's the root of your static problem. Plastic builds up static electricity like crazy and what is foam? It's a type of plastic. I had static problems out the wazoo with that stuff and finally scrapped the whole layout and started over with plywood.

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Posted by colvinbackshop on Tuesday, March 20, 2007 1:07 AM

A cold Pale Ale Joe...And set up the place too...If you please.

Chuck: Yup!! I'm with you all the way! Running a train forwards and back again is 100% better than nothing! That's what I had been doing for some time! Now with a turntable...I can at least turn the steamers! But, it's still just a short out and back with only about 1/4 of my proposed track down. Some day!!

I got a little more done in the Trainroom today, but very minimal, as I had to move a couple of cords of fire wood...And then run off to the pool to teach and be the CPO. All of that was seemingly too much and I'm feeling pretty wasted at the moment. Guess I'm not as recovered as I thought! 

Tomorrow I've got to figure out my needs for ballast material and get some ordered...I've run out! I have used Woodland Scenic, High Ball and AZ Rock & Mineral and really like the "real" stone the best, even if it is a bit more costly. I'm now thinking of going with the AZ stuff....Just cause I've had some good conversations with the fellow and somehow identify with his outlook on life.

Anyway....I find that with my cork on foam, I have a major amount of trouble with the WS stuff getting all charged up with static electricity, sticking to everything it isn't supposed to (ties and rails) and having a dickens of a time getting it to settle down. Anybody have a tip here in regard to this problem? Other wise I'll be ordering about 40lbs. of rock from AZ one day REAL soon.

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Posted by tomikawaTT on Monday, March 19, 2007 1:58 PM

Howdy, folks.  Joe, I'll have coffee, and the lunch special.

Don't know how the conversation got around to 4WD, but it is interesting.  While I was living in South Dakota a few years back I came up with an observation that might be of interest.  a vehicle with 4WD has twice as much GO as a 2WD - but not twice as much STOP!  IMHO, failure to recognize that basic fact is what puts so many 4WDs into ditches.

I'm rapidly approaching the time when I'll be able to do away with the last of my temporary trackage.  One more curve, on an easy grade, and I'll have enough first main in to continue running as construction proceeds.  Granted, the running will be early Canandaigua Southern style - reverse to the end of the completed track, then forward to the other end.  Way better than just a work train track, and worlds better than nothing at all!

Time to get going.  Hope everyone has an outstanding day.

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Posted by MisterBeasley on Monday, March 19, 2007 7:07 AM

Preee-cisely, JB!  We're in complete agreement.  There are an awful lot of these things on the road, and given the newness of the vehicles and the scarcity of snow this season, it wouldn't surprise me if this was the first time these Escaladians have done more than muscle up their driveways.  I had a friend who said he never used the 4WD until he got himself stuck in 2WD, and then it was only to get out of the mess he'd gotten himself into.

As for this weekend of skiing, if I had it to do over again, I wouldn't.  Freezing rain one day, and then moderate horizontal snow the next.  For some reason, the lifts were having mechanical problems both days.  I think I spent a total of only 4 or 5 hours on the slopes.  Daughter Annie probably wasn't out for more than two hours the whole weekend.  (But she was inside doing her homework, so I can't say she was goofing off.)

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Posted by colvinbackshop on Sunday, March 18, 2007 11:57 PM

Evening guys...Joe, I'll take a tap (I'm  feeling WAY MUCH better) and a round for the house on me too!

The Showboat Showcase of Talent went real well this afternoon...Thank God I was feeling better and was even able to pull of the singing part!

Mr. Beasley, I just have to chime in regarding being invincible with a 4WD....There is a very fine line here!

There are those that "feel invincible" and don't know how to drive one and those that are (almost) "invincible" that do know how to drive one! With that said: I've lived all my life here in MN and have driven 4WD vehicles since the late 60's, ranging from a 1947 Willy's pickup to a 1998 Subaru and most everything in-between! I will be the first to tell anybody that wants to listen, that there a learning curve regarding this type of vehicle...And, each one is a bit different, mostly dependent upon the wheel-base, with the "snakiest" of anything I've driven being the old Willys CJ-2-A (although it's top speed was only, at best, 40 to 45 MPH and it's hard to get into too much trouble at that speed) and the Jeep CJ-5 that you could get into all sort of trouble with.

Sorry to have to be so frank, and sorry if I'm stepping on any toes...But the ones you see in the ditch are the "hot-rods" with plenty of money to buy the biggest and best....But haven't a clue how to drive a 4WD, nor have they taken any time to learn how to drive one. I see it all the time! Somebody in a Lincoln (or is it a Cadillac) Navigator with more lights on the front of it then a Boeing C-5A with it's landing lights on, passing you in a cloud of snow on an icy highway, only to find them in the ditch a mile or two up the road....I have to laugh...As long as they didn't hurt themselves or anybody else!

Didn't get out to the Trainroom today, just too much other stuff going on, but I'll be back to the Trainroom tomorrow morning after chores...I'll give a report.

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Posted by tomikawaTT on Saturday, March 17, 2007 9:30 PM

Sure, an' it's a fine evenin' here in Sin City now that the house is back to its usual number of inhabitants.  Joe, a round o' Guinness fer all these foine folk.

Speakin' o' Guinness, I doubt this'll make Guinness World Records, but today is the fifth straight day of record high temperatures here in Hades.  While Chicago is scrambling to reach freezing, LAS (McCarran Airport) reported 91 this afternoon.  Somehow, T-shirts and shorts beat the tar out of parkas and mukluks for (politically incorrect activity regarding the observation of UNLV coeds.)

By sheer dumb luck (and totally accidental good timing) I got to see the Grand Canyon arriving at the station of the same name Tuesday - nose first into the wye stub, then reverse into the station, Alcos smoking like steamers.  Earlier the same morning (2:30 local) the old Flamingo Hotel was imploded on live television (and I didn't even know that Stacey and the CDI crew were in town!)  That would be something interesting to model - NOT.

Didn't even open the railroad room door for a week.  Can't wait to get back at it.

A pleasant evenin' to ye all, an' a safe journey home.

Chuck (whose Irish ancestors are probably spinning in their coffins!)

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Posted by MisterBeasley on Saturday, March 17, 2007 7:12 PM

Well, top o' the mornin' to you all, even though it's half past evening.  Another Killians, and a round for my friends, even the ones I haven't met yet.

I'm up here in Maine trying to ski.  We had heavy snow, which transitioned to a yucky "wintry mix" before dawn.  It was just plain unpleasant out there, and I quit at noon.  The lifts were having mechanical problems too, so I spent a lot of time swinging in the breeze.  I told my favorite leprechaun joke (not repeatable here) a couple of times while we waited for the lifts to restart.

I did get to see the St. Lawrence and Atlantic geep at its nighttime quarters in South Paris, Maine.  That's a shortline that runs up through ski country, connecting parts of Canada with the port of Portland, Maine.

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Posted by GUB on Saturday, March 17, 2007 7:48 AM

Good Morning Everybody,

I'll have a coffee and an English Muffin.

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Posted by colvinbackshop on Friday, March 16, 2007 10:31 PM

Howdy guys....Thanks GUB! And in honor of St. Pat, I'll have a Finnegans Irish Amber...(put on your Irish brogue) "A rich Ale brewed with potatoes, none the less" .

Thanks for the "pat on the back" Squeaky! I feel a great sense of accomplishment with getting that portion of the pike together! The trackage at Cascade Jct. came together real well  (once I worked out the details and knew how large everything had to be...And what would fit) and as of today, I can say....All the trackage there is down!

Yes, I have a sheet of cork (about 2' x 4') down in the area for the pusher service, station, tower and service facility. I got my roll of cork a few weeks ago and cut and put this area down first. This afternoon, however, I also set up the "roadbed shop" and started cutting strips. I'm using a yard stick and a rotary cutter on a cutting mat. So far so good.    

 

This "roll of cork" thing was prompted by a thread here on the forum, as I had run out of cork roadbed and read that some guys were cutting their own! I have to say it's a lot cheaper than the chunk of cork I bought at the auto parts store that I put down at the Sawyer Lumber shops or buying the ready made / cut roadbed. If my calculations are correct (I did them real quick) this $110 roll will produce 800 ft. of roadbed.

So anyway, along with the cutting of roadbed, I also got busy with actually putting cork down around the N.E. corner today and even have the CCRY Mount Weber Sub. in place across the North wall benchwork.

Mike.....How you doing?

Mr. B, have fun on the snow!!

Another Finnegans Amber Joe...And I'll buy this round GUB.

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Posted by MisterBeasley on Friday, March 16, 2007 8:43 PM

Well thanks, GUB, don't mind if I do...Harpoon...no, make that a Killians Red, in honor of the season.  Thanks.

Good news, bad news.  The good news is that we made it up to Sunday River almost ahead of the big storm this weekend, but it still took us 5 hours instead of the usual 3.  More accidents on the way up than I think I've ever seen, most involving SUV's.  Gee, and I thought 4-wheel-drive made you invincible...

The bad news is that I've got no trains up here.  Fortunately, we're in a place with free wireless access, so at least I can stay in touch with the world.  I did get my "Perma-Comb" piece of artificial beehive, and it looks like it will be perfect for making a mold for the hexagonal cobblestones.  I'm going to roll out a slab of modelling clay and then press the honeycomb pattern into it.  Then I'll pull off the beehive and start layering on the latex to make the mold.  The whole process will take a week or so.  I'll try to take a sequence of photos while I do it.  If I get a good enough casting, I think I'll use it for the business district on the other side of the layout, with some old trolley tracks embedded in it.

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Posted by GUB on Friday, March 16, 2007 6:36 PM

Would you look at that .... Looks like it is my turn to buy.... and it's Friday night. This could get expensive. But it doesn't look like anybody is here besides Joe and me. Maybe it won't be too to bad. Lets see ... I'll have a bottle of "Ted the Mule" if you plaese. And since I am buying just give everybody what they would like. Remember guys you all on the honor system here, so go easy on my credit card. I would still like to go to SF in July.

BBFN, gotta go, will check back later.

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Friday, March 16, 2007 7:10 AM
I've seen cork sheets like that at Wal-Mart. They sell it for making bulletin boards.

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