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Posted by colvinbackshop on Friday, May 11, 2007 11:29 AM

Good morning. OK it's almost time for lunch...OK, it's time for lunch! Joe, I'll have the special and tall cold tap, please.

Thanks for the kudos on the townsite...It's been slow coming. Just don't get (maybe "take time" falls here too) enough time to play out there.

"tomikawaTT"...Regarding time and the project at hand. YES, it is an iceberg effect type of thing! Keep in mind that it's all fun!

I started a good ten years ago on the CCRY with a room that needed (to say the VERY least) a lot. This ranged from the ceiling all the way down to the floor....First it was just a matter of getting EVERYTHING that had been stored there, out. At that point it then became a re-model of sorts with the removal of piping and some re-wiring. From here I moved on to new / additional insulation, new sheeting, installing a furnace, moving windows, installing lighting, building a "backshop" work bench and the list goes on.

This took me three years before I even started on benchwork! Then....It took two more years before I had my first track down. This has certainly been a "labor of love", but not always fun nor progressing smoothly or fast.

Now it's a lot more fun....Even the chore of ballasting! Sooo...Hang in there! It does sound like you are getting a lot accomplished!

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Posted by tomikawaTT on Thursday, May 10, 2007 4:36 PM

Howdy, Joe.  Suds for the house, and keep what's left out of this.

J.B., that's a fine looking town you have shaping up there.  Sure wish I had enough space to do something similar.  As it is, most of my non-rail-related structures are going to be virtual - sharing the aisleway with the operating staff - or reduced scale forced perspective pieces up on the mountains.

Construction on my layout has come to a (brief) halt, pushed aside by the need for a major cleanup effort.  Reason?  THE MUNDANES ARE COMING!  More specifically, my sister, my niece, my cousin (who I haven't seen for 50+ years) and her husband will be here for the weekend.  My wife convinced me that things will be better if I lower the debris pile so the visitors can actually see where the tracks are!  So, spent the last two work sessions bringing a semblance of order out of the chaos and shoveling up sawdust, bits of plywood and odd chunks of styrofoam.  In the process I re-discovered some missing tools and salvaged a bunch of useable screws, track nails and rail joiners from the sweepings.

Only problem is, now I can see where I am and how much farther I have to go.  If my grand plan is an iceberg, so far I've completed the part that actually contacted the hull of the Titanic.  At closest approach, I'm still half a scale kilometer of track (and three turnouts) from breaking out of the netherworld.  Don't ask how far I have to go in the other direction!

Well, it's back to the layout room.  Now I have to try to organize the temporary storage on and under the table that will be the other end of the railroad...Whistling [:-^]

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Posted by gear-jammer on Thursday, May 10, 2007 10:03 AM
 colvinbackshop wrote:

JB, 

 Great progress on your community.  Thumbs Up [tup]  Thanks for sharing your photos.   We have planned for businesses, but the details are still fuzzy on residential areas.

Sue

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Wednesday, May 9, 2007 7:25 AM
Looking good so far.

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Posted by colvinbackshop on Wednesday, May 9, 2007 1:34 AM

Howdy guys..and gals:

Joe, I'll try one of those mojito things...looks interesting! What is it exactly?

No, I didn't get lost. But I did get REAL busy with work at the pool again, and I fell down and hurt my back pretty badly to boot! I've been limpin' & gimpin' since Sat. morning with a lower back and legs that just want to recover very well. I have been in the Trainroom a bit, but between extra work and my wheels that don't work quite right...I'm experiencing a "slow order"!

I did however get most of the gravel down on Broadway Street.

And, I now need to continue it into the backdrop and work on the parking areas.    

"detroit" I have to agree, you have done some nice rock scenery, but what really caught my eye was the nicely weathered GN Rocky. Nice job!  

Mr. Beasley, I'm in Chucks camp regarding phone plugs. Check out the 1/8" phone plugs at Radio Shack. Seems to me they were pretty cheap...At least way less than your $8 + price. I have to admit, it's been a while and prices keep going up, but if memory serves, I got plugs for under $2.  

BTW, not only can you make toast, the propane tourch works great as a broiler too!

I'm turning into a pumpkin....I think I may have just dosed! I worked in the yard and garden with the wife most of the day...Before heading in to the pool to teach the Lifeguard class for three hours and then pull my CPO shift for four hours. So, I'm thinking it may be time for a little "shut-eye".

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Posted by tomikawaTT on Tuesday, May 8, 2007 8:09 PM

 Midnight Railroader wrote:
Wait, someone's figured out how to make toast with DCC?

As an analog DC antique, I make my toast with a propane torch...Whistling [:-^]

Goes right along with my 325-watt rail feeder soldering tool...Big Smile [:D]

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Posted by Midnight Railroader on Tuesday, May 8, 2007 10:31 AM
Wait, someone's figured out how to make toast with DCC?
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Posted by MisterBeasley on Tuesday, May 8, 2007 10:24 AM

I'll have some coffee and a plate of toast, please.

Oh, wait a minute, that's another thread.

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Posted by MisterBeasley on Monday, May 7, 2007 7:05 AM

Morning, Joe.  How about some bacon 'n' eggs, over easy, with an English muffin.  Thanks, and keep the coffee comin'.

What I really wanted for quick disconnects is Fahnestock clips.  Remember them?  Lionel used to use them for all sorts of connections.

I just can't find them around anywhere.  They're available mail-order, but I hate to pay more for shipping than for the product.

I thought of stereo plugs and other connectors like that, but I didn't want to spend $8.99 for two of them.  All of those things are technically OK, but you just can't get them for a reasonable price.  Maybe I'll find an appliance repair place and see if he's got any in his scrap bin.

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Posted by MisterBeasley on Sunday, May 6, 2007 4:07 PM

Yes, Sue, (and Larry,) I've put the skis away and now can reasonably expect to get at least some train time in most weekends.  Of course, today was perfect for putting down some Turf Builder Plus 2 to green up the lawn and get rid of dandelions, so that took priority, and we have a guest coming over for dinner so I had to clean up the layout a bit and make it show-ready.

I'm back to the turntable pit-bash, among other things.  Walthers has had the City Classics grocery store and the Arrowhead Ale background structure on sale, so they are now awaiting painting and assembly.  For the pit-bash, I took a set of trucks and pulled the wheels off the axles, and then put them back on with the flanges out, and the wheels shoved all the way to the center of each axle.  That way, I'll have a wide wheel with flanges on the outside, that will hopefully stay on the pit rail.  The rail itself will have to be shrunk a little - I made the circle some time ago, before I worked on the bogies, and it looks like it's not going to fit.  Oh, well, it's easier to cut it shorter than it is to cut it larger.

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Posted by tomikawaTT on Sunday, May 6, 2007 12:50 PM

Good morning, everyone.  Joe, I'll have scrambled eggs, toast and a BIG coffee.

All of the photos are outstanding!  Makes me want to get out of the netherworld and build some scenery.  (Unfortunately, I have to finish the netherworld before I can build anything over it.  Can't ice the cake until all the layers are in place!)

Mister B, I'm a great believer in miniature stereo plugs for easy disconnects.  You can mount either the plug or the socket on the base.  Only issue is with alignment - but that can be a plus rather than a minus since the plug will align the same every time.

Colvin - sorry to hear about your encounter with the criminal element.  A few years back I had some local kids on a crime spree break into the garage of an at that time empty house.  All the little (fillintheblank)s got was a straw broom!  (They also got busted when one's mother got curious about all the stuff her son had just acquired.)

As I mentioned in the tool thread, I just finished converting a sheet of plywood into spaghetti in anticipation of the next leg of construction.  The foam and track templates are all set to caulk in place, so things should go quickly - especially since the only turnout is a spring switch.  Now it's time to get creative with the tin snips.  All my risers are made of steel stud material, just like the joists they attach to.  Three different alignments, on three different grades, with three different radii - all destined to be hidden in the netherworld and accessible by opening up the main CTC panels for the JNR and TTT (which are scheduled to occupy that part of the fascia.)

Well, the General Superintendent just called - has some household chores she wants me to attend to.  See you later.

Chuck (modeling Central Japan in September, 1964)

 

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Posted by gear-jammer on Sunday, May 6, 2007 12:11 PM

Mike, Cheeseburgers and onion rings for breakfast? Hmmm.

That looks like sunrise over Detroit, Detroit.  Great weathering on that car. Thumbs Up

MrB,  Are you back to the layout now that skiing is over?

Sue 





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Posted by mikesmowers on Sunday, May 6, 2007 11:51 AM

   Morning all, Joe, I'll have a tall Iced tea and one of your famous cheesburgers and onion rings, Thanks. 

   Mr. B, I have also been wondering about quick disonnects, I have several wall warts powering my layout. I  have clipped the ends off the wire and was thinking of using the ends for the disconnects. You can usually get the other end from  out dated equipment, sush as old cordless phones or stereo equipment.   Do you thing this would work?

   Not doing much in the train room lately, spending some time in what will be the new train room.  I have a cousin hat is an artist in Flordia and has bought an old farmhouse here that used to belong to my Great Grandmother and Grandfather.  He is planning on remodeling it and is wanting me to do most of it. Could turn into a really sweet deal, I am going to see if he would be interested in painting my backdroop on the new layout.

   I see my grub has arrived.  Pass the katchup please.   Thanks.    See  you all later.   Mike               

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Posted by MisterBeasley on Sunday, May 6, 2007 8:43 AM

Hey, nice rocks, Detroit.  And good weathering, too.  Let me buy you a Dr Pepper.  Still morning here in New England, and unseasonably cool.  Still in the 40's, with enough light clouds that the sun's not making much of an impact yet.  I was up too late last night, so the coffee's not making much of an impact, either.  And sorry about the 2-day stubble - I'll shave later.

I finally figured out a solution to one of my wiring problems.  I've got 2 Model Power buildings, Baldy's Barbershop and Annie's Antiques, that came with nice ceiling-mounted interior lights.  The kits included interiors for the first-floor shops, too, so the lights let you see them.  The problem is, how does one wire these things?  Most of the time, structure lights are attached to the layout base, and the structure goes on top.  These lights, though, are part of the building, so I needed a quick-disconnect when I want to remove the building so I can work behind it.

I ended up with small, cheap alligator clips from Radio Shack.  I think they were $2.79 for a 10-pack.  I wired the clips to the wiring bus for the structures, and then just clipped the wires on as I set the building down.  I made one of the clip leads longer than the other so they wouldn't be next to each other and short out.

I went to a train show and open house in Bolton, MA, on Saturday.  The show wasn't much, two modular layouts and maybe a dozen or so vendors.  It seemed like half of them were just selling books, videos and shirts, too.  The Young Model Railroaders group was there with their layout.  It's good to see young kids, particularly girls, working on modules and doing scenery.  (The best module by far, by the way, belonged to one of the young ladiies.  Way to go, Brenna!)

I had a great time at the New England Rail club after that.  It's a pretty big layout, with a very long mainline run thanks to the serpentine aisle arrangement.  It's at http://www.nvrra.org/ if anyone is interested.  Again, one of the engineers was a young man, and he had several of his friends along with him.

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, May 6, 2007 8:01 AM
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, May 4, 2007 11:33 PM

Hey everybody! Some pics....

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Posted by colvinbackshop on Friday, May 4, 2007 10:53 PM

Hey, just got in....And, I'll buy a round.

No work on the RR of late, but it's raining tonight and is supposed to do so all weekend. Not only does that reduce the fire danger (we have been in the MAJOR high danger zone for the past few days) it also means that once I'm done with the chores....I get to play in the Trainroom!

Still working on Sawbill Jct. with the next step being the "graveling" of the street. I'll snap a pic and share it tomorrow.

As for now, I'll have a Rogue Mocha Porter Joe...And as stated when I first walked in, a round for the house. It's payday today and I feel the need to share the wealth. How ever small it may be!

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Friday, May 4, 2007 8:43 PM
 SilverSpike wrote:

Dang, sure is lonely in the Beer Barn the past few days...

Ain't it though!

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Posted by SilverSpike on Friday, May 4, 2007 8:24 PM

Dang, sure is lonely in the Beer Barn the past few days...

Looks like all the mojitos are all for me....

Hick! Darn good too!

 

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Wednesday, May 2, 2007 1:43 PM
 colvinbackshop wrote:

Jeffrey: I didn't mean to just blow right over your post of "road work" pictures! I was just wound up with being ripped off! Your work looks good. I always like the way your dioramas have such a great sense of depth. What is the next step in your finishing process? Are they to be paved or blacktop?

They'll be concrete roads with some black-topping here and there and a few asphalt filled pot-holes.

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Posted by SilverSpike on Wednesday, May 2, 2007 1:26 PM

J.B.,

 Sorry to hear about the cabin and all the vandelism. I have been a victim of crime too many times to count, well, actually, three separate incidents. And each time it left me with an angry view of life in general. Time will heal though, it took a few years before I got to trusting people again, and even still, I am more cautious these days.

Mind you, all my victim of crime events happened back when I lived in Uptown New Orleans, and all was over 15 years ago.

  • Truck broken into and my work tool kit was taken along with all the stereo equip.
  • Kidnapped / carjacked at gun point and taken on a 45 minute ride of terror.
  • Truck tailgate and rear lights stolen off truck over two consecutive nights.

Enough of my belly aching!

Is it mojito time yet?

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Posted by colvinbackshop on Wednesday, May 2, 2007 11:21 AM

Good morning. I'll have a big breakfast Joe...And keep the coffee coming too please.

Yes, I know it's pretty late in the morning, but I just got up at 1000. I've been working REAL late the past two days, but now I'm back to a more reasonable timeframe for the remainder of the week.

Jeffrey: I didn't mean to just blow right over your post of "road work" pictures! I was just wound up with being ripped off! Your work looks good. I always like the way your dioramas have such a great sense of depth. What is the next step in your finishing process? Are they to be paved or blacktop?

My work schedule for the Trainroom is still on a "hold-order" with working in the garden on Mon. and working in town all day and most of the night yesterday. Today I have an entire load of ARC paperwork to do (classes are winding down), so RR work is again postponed.

Mr. Beasley: Thanks for the condolences....and the drink! I needed both. It is amazing what the thieves can do. WOW! In the middle of the night when folks are in the home. That just blows me away! Are these folks sleeping through the burglary?

I'm a light sleeper and I'm thinking that I would hear something going on. On the other hand, that could be bad, as I do have a substantial arsenal and know how to use it...I need not say more!

Well, I'd better get back to the ARC website and get some more work done. Later.

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Posted by MisterBeasley on Tuesday, May 1, 2007 7:00 AM
But some of them do sneak around at night.  Yesterday, I got a phone call.  It was an automated recording call from the local police department.  They were notifying everyone in the neighborhood that there had been a couple of robberies.  The bad guys came in in the dead of night, while people were sleeping in the homes, and made off with stuff.  (Technically, the crime here is "home invasion" since the victims are at home.)  I mentioned it to my wife and daughter, and as it turns out one of crimes was against a family we know pretty well.  They made off with computers, iPods and other electronics, and even one of their cars out of the garage.

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Posted by MisterBeasley on Monday, April 30, 2007 10:41 AM

Let me buy you another, JB.  It's the least I can do.

Unfortunately, nothing is safe anywhere anymore, from the cities to the boonies.  Of course, it's not a particularly new phenomenon.  I still remember coming out of my LHS when I was a kid, only to find that someone had ridden off on my bicycle.  (I looked, and there it was!  Gone!)

Unfortunately, if you try to claim anything on your insurance, the company will either jack up your rates or cancel your policy entirely.  The crooks don't all wear masks and sneak around at night.

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Posted by colvinbackshop on Monday, April 30, 2007 12:15 AM

Good evening guys... Joe, I'll have double of you best Scotch whisky, on the rocks!

Been busting my butt all week with WAY more extra stuff then I want to do... Then I run away to a hunting / fishing cabin that I share with a long time (darn near "life long") friend that we have over by Itasca State Park on an environmental lake surrounded by State Forest. Only to find that it's been broken into sometime between Feb. and now.

Fortunately.......Nothing was trashed except for the doors being blown to bits......They just unloaded the goods, taking ONLY anything that was of value! Seemed as if they were setting up their own place (they even took my bottle of extra virgin olive oil off the shelf) with lanterns, knifes, tools, propane tanks, radio, fishing tackle and rods.........the list goes on, or maybe just anything that could be hauled out on a four wheeler and sold easily.

All weekend long we were coming up with things that were missing. So far we're out a couple of grand (or so we think), with only a very few things that can't be replaced.  None the less, I really feel violated and I'm mad too.

I've always been a trusting soul and have tried to do the right thing in regard to other folk. Like....Not locking the gates to our property and always granting permission, thus not limiting access to the lake to the locals for fishing, riceing (a local Native American uncle and nephew team took over 1000 lbs. of wild rice off the lake last year) and water foul hunting......This really stinks to be ripped off!

I'm approaching the point of "NO MORE"! I try to be the nice guy! I own the land, I pay the taxes, I let you all use my access to the lake....And you violate my trust. I'll have another double Joe, please and thank you!

With all of that now off my chest: As for the MRR.............Tomorrow I have to work in the garden, weather permitting, but then I want / need to finish up the new layout of Sawbill Jct. I did get part of the road down with paint and a sifted sand. So far, so good!

And...As long as I'm crying in my beer, so to speak. I'll have another double Joe, and I'll spring for a round of the house too.

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Sunday, April 29, 2007 6:13 PM
You know city folks, always in a hurry. Besides, I gotta sand them down first. Glad I have a sander that has vacuum suction. No dust.

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Posted by MisterBeasley on Sunday, April 29, 2007 5:17 PM
Well, you'd think those drivers would at least give you a chance to paint the roads before they had to drive on them, wouldn't you?

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Sunday, April 29, 2007 1:57 PM

 

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Posted by tomikawaTT on Sunday, April 29, 2007 1:51 PM

'Morning, Joe.  Coffee and a donut, please.

Been kind of quiet lately.  Guess all the regulars have been busy.  Hope there have been enough mundanes dropping by to keep you solvent.

Quick comparison (byproduct of tracklaying operations in the slowly expanding netherworld:)

  • Flex track-nailed directly to plywood - noisy!  Amplifies every vibration.
  • Flex caulked to foam caulked to plywood - reasonably quiet.
  • Flex tacked to foam with track nails, over plywood - almost silent.
  • rail spiked directly to 1x8 pine plank - noisier than foam, lots quieter than straight plywood.

Since all of this is destined to be hidden track, there hasn't been any ballast added to any of it.  Likewise, there is no scenery attached to the subgrade to increase its mass.  How things will sound once the tracks come to the surface remains to be learned.

Speaking of modeling underground mine workings, I have also considered that.  Among the junk items in my cavernous 'spare parts box' are several Egger-Bahn cars which would make logical mine cars.  (The loco has long since vanished.)  The stuff is 9mm (N) gauge, but scale N flex has about 2 - 3 times too many ties to accurately represent the kind of mine trackage I saw in Japan 40+ years ago.

Time to go listen to the Parson's weekly tirade.  See you later.

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, April 26, 2007 1:42 PM
 MisterBeasley wrote:

Hey, Dude, how's it goin?  I'll take a Harpoon, Joe.  Thanks.  And some nachos to help everyone's digestion.

Are you going to model the coal mine below the surface?  I've got coal on my layout, too, and I've been thinking of putting in a below-surface model at the edge of the layout.  Just a foot or two of subterranean scenery.  Maybe some N-gauge tracks and ore cars down there, too.  How would that look, those of you with any mining experience?

 Ya know... I have never considered that! That idea is a stroke of genius and it shouldn't be that hard to do. I gotta give that some though.. Thanks!

 

 

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