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Anyone want to model the Bailey Yard? :) Warning Dial up users!

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Anyone want to model the Bailey Yard? :) Warning Dial up users!
Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, June 22, 2006 6:30 PM






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Posted by dinwitty on Thursday, June 22, 2006 7:56 PM
I think HZZ scale is a bit too tiny for me...
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, June 22, 2006 7:56 PM
If I wanted my whole layout to be a yard, sure. But as cool as that yard is, no thanks!
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Posted by trainboyH16-44 on Thursday, June 22, 2006 8:07 PM
Whole layout? More like a whole house! That thing must be how many feet wide??
I've been there once, man, that was a cool place to be! (Although the railfanning platform isn't the best railfanning place! You need to get on that westernmost overpass...)

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Posted by CMSTPP on Thursday, June 22, 2006 8:54 PM
Umm..no! way to many tracks first of all and probably cost over a 1000 dollars just to get the turnouts for that yard!!! Plus if I were to do that in HO it would probably take up the basement!!

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Posted by tomikawaTT on Friday, June 23, 2006 12:43 AM
I'd LOVE to model the Bailey Yard, or at least something similar. I love that thoroughfare track under the hump.

Unfortunately, all of the hangars at Nellis AFB are spoken for, and UNLV needs their gym for basketball. Maybe one of the high schools....

Seriously, this is why modelers practice selective compression and creative omission. Even a club-size layout would probably condense those 70-odd tracks into twelve, and their average 32 (full scale in HO scale) foot length into something more like 15 feet between clearance points. For a home layout, make that seven tracks and 10 feet, and four of those tracks will probably be single ended.

Just the engine terminal is more yard than most of us have space to build!

This is exactly why I model a railroad that ran short trains and lots of them, and pretend that the major classification yards are off-scene, in staging.

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Posted by ARTHILL on Friday, June 23, 2006 7:27 AM
Cool pics. Those are the things that helped hook my years ago. Thanks for the pics.
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Posted by SilverSpike on Friday, June 23, 2006 7:33 AM
Great satellite imagery you got there! While impressive in 1:1 that would be quite a challenge as has been stated above. Maybe in Z scale it could be done with space considerations, but to completely model that would take a couple of indoor football stadiums as has also been mentioned.

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Posted by Train 284 on Friday, June 23, 2006 10:06 AM
Boy you would need a lot of space!
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Posted by TheSkipinator on Saturday, January 18, 2014 1:21 PM
JSYK: The Bailey Yard complex covers and area 2 miles by 8 miles. Here are the layout sizes required to model the complex accurately: HO: 121.2 ft x 485 ft (requires 43 miles of HO scale track) N: 66 ft x 264 ft (required 23.6 miles of N scale track) Z: 48 ft x 192 ft (requires 17.2 miles of Z scale track)
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Posted by jecorbett on Saturday, January 18, 2014 3:39 PM

TheSkipinator
JSYK: The Bailey Yard complex covers and area 2 miles by 8 miles. Here are the layout sizes required to model the complex accurately: HO: 121.2 ft x 485 ft (requires 43 miles of HO scale track) N: 66 ft x 264 ft (required 23.6 miles of N scale track) Z: 48 ft x 192 ft (requires 17.2 miles of Z scale track)
 

C'mon, let's not mess around. Let's go whole hog. Let's model it in G scale. And none of that selective compression nonsense. That's cheating.

If my calculations are correct:

389.9 ft X 1320.1 ft.

117 miles of G scale track.

I'll bet that's bigger than a lot of prototype yards.

PS. Of course we'll need to add a couple staging yards too.

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Posted by zstripe on Saturday, January 18, 2014 6:49 PM

And with the G layout, you have to use, walk around throttle's. An eight year old Thread, still going and going. Laugh

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Posted by crhostler61 on Saturday, January 18, 2014 7:15 PM

I want to do it! LOL!

Full blown ho scale. I'll kick my employer out of the 900,000 sq ft warehouse I work in and do it up with a loan from some Wall Street investor. (laughing sarcastically)

Uh huh.

Realistically...how would you even believably compress a yard that size into HO scale...and I thought Enola was big when I worked there.

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Posted by GGOOLER on Saturday, January 18, 2014 9:15 PM

dang even with my 5 acres it wouldnt fit for g-scale and my yard is 350 ft x 800 ft.

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Posted by crhostler61 on Saturday, January 18, 2014 11:01 PM

Now thinking of something of an inverse here. If I took the frieght yard on my layout and enlarge it to full size...it would occupy a space less than two football field. And that take up a fair amount of space on my layout. 

I guess this would just be something to dream about.

I need to hit on MegaBucks at one of the Reno casinos.

Oh...just remembered...I don't gamble.

LOL

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Posted by zstripe on Sunday, January 19, 2014 3:43 AM

Mark H,

Laugh  My quote function isn't working so I can't quote You. But in regards to Your last sentence:

''I DON'T GAMBLE'' could you compare that statement, to some RTR models today? Smile, Wink & Grin

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Posted by crhostler61 on Sunday, January 19, 2014 6:52 AM

Zstripe,

I don't know how to use the quote function...so. LOL. Yeah, I guess today's RTR engines are something of a gamble. I consider myself fortunate that the few current RTR models I have are good...or at least run good. But they are delicate to an unnerving degree. Run them, drag them, push them to a safe place when not being used...just don't pick them up. I miss the days of the near bullet proof BB locos.

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Posted by caldreamer on Sunday, January 19, 2014 9:29 AM

.  My N scale layout includes a hump yard.  It in 24 inches wide by 19 feet long.  has 10 classification tracks, 3 arrival and 3 departure tracks and a through train tack along with other tracks.   The engine service faility is on the west end and the car shops are on the east end. .The longest classification tracks are 10 feet long.

  By the way, why fool around with Nellis AFB?  There is plenty of room in Area 51, NE of Nellis and the aliens can help you build it in their spare time.

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Posted by jecorbett on Sunday, January 19, 2014 9:36 AM

GGOOLER

dang even with my 5 acres it wouldnt fit for g-scale and my yard is 350 ft x 800 ft.


 
You got me by a little bit. Mine is 300 ft. X 725 ft. Mostly woods and some sloping ground. I'd have to do a lot of clearing and regrading. Anybody want to buy some firewood?
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Posted by dehusman on Sunday, January 19, 2014 10:51 AM

N Platte yard processes about 100-180 trains a day,  so you will need about 100 staging tracks on each side of the yard and between 15,000 and 25,000 cars to put on those trains and in the yard.

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Posted by rdgk1se3019 on Sunday, January 19, 2014 11:22 AM

I think the original poster is a hack........no one on this forum has 282,000 posts.

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Posted by NorthWest on Sunday, January 19, 2014 11:26 AM

Anonymous is what a post reads when the poster leaves the forum, so I imagine that that number is the sum of the posts of all the people that have left or been banned from the site.

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Posted by ChessieMTNSUB on Sunday, January 19, 2014 2:02 PM

Well no matter what scale, warehouse, or how many staging tracks one may need, I think we can all agree that there needs to be pop up access at least Big Smile

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