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What passenger cars would you like to see made?

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Posted by Amtrk14 on Thursday, June 10, 2004 10:47 AM
I would like to see the Amtrak Surfliner(blue/silver) Cars and the Amtrak California Cars. Also an Amtrak Pacific Parlour Car.
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Posted by THayman on Thursday, June 10, 2004 10:42 AM
I'd like to see Athearn RTR, or any RTR Via Rail Canada Bombardier coaches in HO scale. There are LRC's around, but most are incomplete and require painting and lettering, which I am no good at. Preferably in the newest scheme (with gov't of Canada logo on the blue) and in both LRC VIA 1 and economy.

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Posted by THayman on Thursday, June 10, 2004 10:42 AM
I'd like to see Athearn RTR, or any RTR Via Rail Canada Bombardier coaches in HO scale. There are LRC's around, but most are incomplete and require painting and lettering, which I am no good at. Preferably in the newest scheme (with gov't of Canada logo on the blue) and in both LRC VIA 1 and economy.

-Tim

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, June 10, 2004 10:34 AM
i would like to see the Texas Special be made... great train
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, June 10, 2004 10:34 AM
i would like to see the Texas Special be made... great train
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, June 10, 2004 8:26 AM
As to passenger cars not made - the biggest gap is in the more common heavyweight "betterment" Pullman sleepers. Bachmann makes (made?) the uncommon 10S 1DR 2DB "Scenic..." cars but the 8S 5DB "Clover..." or 6S 6DB "Poplar..." cars had more prototypes.

Another gap is the wide-window standardweight coach such as the later B&O 3500's or the PRR P70KR.
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, June 10, 2004 8:26 AM
As to passenger cars not made - the biggest gap is in the more common heavyweight "betterment" Pullman sleepers. Bachmann makes (made?) the uncommon 10S 1DR 2DB "Scenic..." cars but the 8S 5DB "Clover..." or 6S 6DB "Poplar..." cars had more prototypes.

Another gap is the wide-window standardweight coach such as the later B&O 3500's or the PRR P70KR.
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Posted by rmseel on Thursday, May 6, 2004 9:06 AM
MP54 commuter cars PLEASE! Brass models are nice, but WAY out of price range. A well-cast, plastic model for less than $60 would be wondeful -- both powered and unpowered. Bachmann Spectrum -- please take note!
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Posted by rmseel on Thursday, May 6, 2004 9:06 AM
MP54 commuter cars PLEASE! Brass models are nice, but WAY out of price range. A well-cast, plastic model for less than $60 would be wondeful -- both powered and unpowered. Bachmann Spectrum -- please take note!
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, April 14, 2004 5:22 PM
It's amazing to see how many of the passenger cars suggested by the posters on this thread have been produced or announced since the thread started!!

Here are my picks:

--An NYC express boxcar, converted from a troop sleeper
--A PRR X-29 express boxcar
--The 1954 version of the Budd SP 48-seat coach (great for the Sunset, the City of San Fransisco when painted Armour Yellow, lots of post-1960 SP trains, lots of Amtrak trains)(and you can't do a post-1954 Golden State without at least one).
--A post-war Santa Fe "Regal" 4-4-2 sleeper
--A "Park"-series CP/VIA dome/sleeper/obs
--A Budd "smoothside" dome coach

--John
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, April 14, 2004 5:22 PM
It's amazing to see how many of the passenger cars suggested by the posters on this thread have been produced or announced since the thread started!!

Here are my picks:

--An NYC express boxcar, converted from a troop sleeper
--A PRR X-29 express boxcar
--The 1954 version of the Budd SP 48-seat coach (great for the Sunset, the City of San Fransisco when painted Armour Yellow, lots of post-1960 SP trains, lots of Amtrak trains)(and you can't do a post-1954 Golden State without at least one).
--A post-war Santa Fe "Regal" 4-4-2 sleeper
--A "Park"-series CP/VIA dome/sleeper/obs
--A Budd "smoothside" dome coach

--John
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, April 13, 2004 9:20 PM
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE LIRR CARS OF THE DIESEL EROR
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, April 13, 2004 9:20 PM
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE LIRR CARS OF THE DIESEL EROR
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, April 13, 2004 8:57 PM
SJCool, don't you mean the Diner-Lounge? The Mo-Pac had Diner-Lounges, Diner-Coaches and Grill Coaches. For the ACF Diner-Lounge, Diner-Coach, you could start with the Rivarossi UP diner and blank out one door on kitchen side and replace the square isle windows with the porthole windows and you could use Walthers Budd 52 seat coaches and replace the small lavatory windows with porthole windows. To make the porthole windows, a quarter in bit will work to make the hole. A plug would need to be made of .40 inch plastic. Ch
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, April 13, 2004 8:57 PM
SJCool, don't you mean the Diner-Lounge? The Mo-Pac had Diner-Lounges, Diner-Coaches and Grill Coaches. For the ACF Diner-Lounge, Diner-Coach, you could start with the Rivarossi UP diner and blank out one door on kitchen side and replace the square isle windows with the porthole windows and you could use Walthers Budd 52 seat coaches and replace the small lavatory windows with porthole windows. To make the porthole windows, a quarter in bit will work to make the hole. A plug would need to be made of .40 inch plastic. Ch
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, April 13, 2004 5:24 PM
I model the Missouri Pacific in 1950, and the MP's passenger cars had a bunch of portholes, something I haven't seen manufatured in plastic. Wouldn't it be great if someone offered a MP grill-lounge? [:)]
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, April 13, 2004 5:24 PM
I model the Missouri Pacific in 1950, and the MP's passenger cars had a bunch of portholes, something I haven't seen manufatured in plastic. Wouldn't it be great if someone offered a MP grill-lounge? [:)]
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Posted by dorsetvalley on Tuesday, April 13, 2004 4:26 PM
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Posted by dorsetvalley on Tuesday, April 13, 2004 4:26 PM
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, October 20, 2003 12:52 AM
How about instead of HO proto-typ's , we get some shorter pass. cars which can make a smaller radius . I think the reason you don't see more passenger layouts is the fact that most of us don't have the Super Dome for space . New car designs which carry the intent of the proto type , are shorter ,but look half way decent going around a corner would be nice. I know LifeLike makes a 60' model , but it looks more like a toy-set car more than a proto , & it only comes in lightweight fluted . You have to add mucho's detail to get a fairly good looking unit , or how about a 60' heavyweight that will take a 18" radius : look good doing it & have some detail . This would work with the scale compression theory . The manufacturing of such a car(s) would increase the availability of rolling stock for us "Passenger Heads" . I mean , damn the "Freight Freaks" have so much to pick from , besides the fact they have all that proto data that splashed all over most magz's .If you run a seven car consit on my layout it takes up almost half of one leg . I have a 10' x 12' former bedroom that I use & the layout is " U " shaped . Those of us out here who do pass. modeling & operations need to have some representation too ! If we had shorter cars we could also use smaller # turnouts , thereby saving more space . You know the proto. railroads ran a lot of pass. service , but it is seldom mentioned & minimal info. is avaliable . I've taken to buying cheaper cars & cutting them down . I then , look at the carbody & remove that portion which is repeated most often . This gives me the flavor of the car , but allows operation on tighter turns . I've tried it with cutting down 85' / 4 wheel truck unit & now I'm on to Hvy. wght. / 6 wheelers . If any one else has tried this or has another idea please let me know . Until then I'll keep lobbying for 60'ers & preach my story to anyone who will listen .Maybe , if enough of us "Passenger Heads" get together , we can get some action . Come on manufacturers ! You guys read this stuff once in awhile . Let's get moving on this .
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, October 20, 2003 12:52 AM
How about instead of HO proto-typ's , we get some shorter pass. cars which can make a smaller radius . I think the reason you don't see more passenger layouts is the fact that most of us don't have the Super Dome for space . New car designs which carry the intent of the proto type , are shorter ,but look half way decent going around a corner would be nice. I know LifeLike makes a 60' model , but it looks more like a toy-set car more than a proto , & it only comes in lightweight fluted . You have to add mucho's detail to get a fairly good looking unit , or how about a 60' heavyweight that will take a 18" radius : look good doing it & have some detail . This would work with the scale compression theory . The manufacturing of such a car(s) would increase the availability of rolling stock for us "Passenger Heads" . I mean , damn the "Freight Freaks" have so much to pick from , besides the fact they have all that proto data that splashed all over most magz's .If you run a seven car consit on my layout it takes up almost half of one leg . I have a 10' x 12' former bedroom that I use & the layout is " U " shaped . Those of us out here who do pass. modeling & operations need to have some representation too ! If we had shorter cars we could also use smaller # turnouts , thereby saving more space . You know the proto. railroads ran a lot of pass. service , but it is seldom mentioned & minimal info. is avaliable . I've taken to buying cheaper cars & cutting them down . I then , look at the carbody & remove that portion which is repeated most often . This gives me the flavor of the car , but allows operation on tighter turns . I've tried it with cutting down 85' / 4 wheel truck unit & now I'm on to Hvy. wght. / 6 wheelers . If any one else has tried this or has another idea please let me know . Until then I'll keep lobbying for 60'ers & preach my story to anyone who will listen .Maybe , if enough of us "Passenger Heads" get together , we can get some action . Come on manufacturers ! You guys read this stuff once in awhile . Let's get moving on this .
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, October 12, 2003 6:21 PM
PRR P-54'S, PB-62'S, B-62'S,ETC. LARGE GROUP OFF PRR MODELERS COULD USE A SHORTED PROTOTYPE PASSENGER CAR.
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, October 12, 2003 6:21 PM
PRR P-54'S, PB-62'S, B-62'S,ETC. LARGE GROUP OFF PRR MODELERS COULD USE A SHORTED PROTOTYPE PASSENGER CAR.
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, October 6, 2003 10:14 AM
How about the C&NW Bi-Level Buffet car? These were pretty much identical to the PS Bilevels made by Walthers but had some windows plated over, there's a kit to convert one available from Three Brothers Mfg, INC. according to the Walthers website, though I'd like to see this vehicle ready-to-run as these kits are hard to find here in the UK, and I know I couldn't make it look as good as the Walthers cars I already have!
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, October 6, 2003 10:14 AM
How about the C&NW Bi-Level Buffet car? These were pretty much identical to the PS Bilevels made by Walthers but had some windows plated over, there's a kit to convert one available from Three Brothers Mfg, INC. according to the Walthers website, though I'd like to see this vehicle ready-to-run as these kits are hard to find here in the UK, and I know I couldn't make it look as good as the Walthers cars I already have!
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, October 5, 2003 8:54 PM
It is very difficult to name specific passenger cars since so many were 'road specific'. In N scale the streamliner era cars are becoming better represented all the time through a multitude of manufacturers. What is desperately needed are accurate representations of Amfleet 1, Amfleet 2, and Bombardier Horizon cars. The reason is twofold. Firstly, it fills a void in the current offerings that will allow current varni***o be represented on modern era layouts. Secondly, if marketed as sets, it attracts a whole new generation of Model Railroaders with trains that they can personally associate with. I believe that you will find that most Model Railroaders 'love affair' with trains began with train travel.. Attracting a whole new generation is vital to the future of this hobby. It needs a properly marketed set that appeals to the next generation. I believe the afore mentioned cars are that set!
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, October 5, 2003 8:54 PM
It is very difficult to name specific passenger cars since so many were 'road specific'. In N scale the streamliner era cars are becoming better represented all the time through a multitude of manufacturers. What is desperately needed are accurate representations of Amfleet 1, Amfleet 2, and Bombardier Horizon cars. The reason is twofold. Firstly, it fills a void in the current offerings that will allow current varni***o be represented on modern era layouts. Secondly, if marketed as sets, it attracts a whole new generation of Model Railroaders with trains that they can personally associate with. I believe that you will find that most Model Railroaders 'love affair' with trains began with train travel.. Attracting a whole new generation is vital to the future of this hobby. It needs a properly marketed set that appeals to the next generation. I believe the afore mentioned cars are that set!
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, October 5, 2003 11:41 AM
Kind of an odd one, but I would like to see some of the "newer" Light Rail Vehicles in use around the US. Some of the Siemens cars in use in Portland, Salt Lake City, Denver, San Diego, Houston. Some of the Kinky Shariio (sp) cars in use in Dallas, New Jersey, and San Jose. If we want to get kids into this hobby, they want to model what they see. I'm 27 and have never seen an F unit in action. However I have seen plenty of P42's and MAC 90's and I model those. I would LOVE to model some light rail vehicles on my layout. They would look great in the downtown area. It would be fun to just model a light rail layout and try and fit some freight operations into it. Here in Salt Lake city the Light rail line has to stop running at midnight, and freight operations take over the line from midnight to 5 am. But with no LRV's this isn't really an option.

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, October 5, 2003 11:41 AM
Kind of an odd one, but I would like to see some of the "newer" Light Rail Vehicles in use around the US. Some of the Siemens cars in use in Portland, Salt Lake City, Denver, San Diego, Houston. Some of the Kinky Shariio (sp) cars in use in Dallas, New Jersey, and San Jose. If we want to get kids into this hobby, they want to model what they see. I'm 27 and have never seen an F unit in action. However I have seen plenty of P42's and MAC 90's and I model those. I would LOVE to model some light rail vehicles on my layout. They would look great in the downtown area. It would be fun to just model a light rail layout and try and fit some freight operations into it. Here in Salt Lake city the Light rail line has to stop running at midnight, and freight operations take over the line from midnight to 5 am. But with no LRV's this isn't really an option.

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, October 2, 2003 7:31 PM
Pullman-Standard:
Long Island multiple unit coach built 1963 lot 7014A
OR
NYC electric M.U. coaches lot 2255

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