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What passenger cars would you like to see made?

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Posted by DavidBriel on Friday, July 30, 2004 4:24 AM
Southern and Norfolk Southern steam excursion passenger cars such as ex Central of Georgia smooth side combine 726. These excursions ran on Southern and Norfolk Southern rails from 1966 to 1994. The excursions ran with Southern heavyweight cars (until 1986) and smoothside and corrugated streamlined cars. Also needed but not passenger car related is an auxiliary water tender for use behind the steam locomotives pulling these cars. Steam locomotive Southern 4501 and a matching axiliary water tender and then the excursion passenger cars for example. David Briel
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Posted by garr on Thursday, July 29, 2004 10:56 PM
A generic smooth-sided and updated heavyweight business car --unlettered but painted in pullman green. These would need flush windows and very few rivets. And most definitley a rear platform.

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Posted by garr on Thursday, July 29, 2004 10:56 PM
A generic smooth-sided and updated heavyweight business car --unlettered but painted in pullman green. These would need flush windows and very few rivets. And most definitley a rear platform.

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Posted by andrechapelon on Thursday, July 29, 2004 4:30 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by MReditor

While we certainly have more passenger cars available these days than we did a few years ago, the selection is still somewhat hit-and-miss, at least in plastic. (If you build your own using etched car sides, or purchase brass cars, your choices are much broader).

While we here at MR are not ready to undertake another large survey like we just did with locomotives, I thought a quick electronic show of hands might be fun. What passenger car(s) would you most like to see mass-produced, and in which scale?

Look forward to reading your votes!
Terry


I'm in HO. I'd like to see:

Santa Fe heavyweights. Coaches http://photoswest.org/cgi-bin/imager?00002284+OP-2284, dinershttp://photoswest.org/cgi-bin/imager?00002273+OP-2273, head-end cars, lounge cars. Green, TT gray and also silver shadow lined to look like streamliners.

Southern Pacific "Subs", the 20's era commuter coaches. Either that or a replacement window strip that will make an Athearn arch roof coach look like an SP "Sub". Like this one: http://thejoekorner.quuxuum.org/sopac/3170048.gif

SP articulated streamline coaches http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Oracle/1631/sanluis1.jpg and an SP 3 unit articulated coffeee shop diner http://www.trainpage.com/tSp/images/SP-PsgrStoredH_tonTX12-2231.jpg.

Accurate Harriman coaches appropriate for the steam/diesel transition era.

That's really not too much to ask for, is it?

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Posted by andrechapelon on Thursday, July 29, 2004 4:30 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by MReditor

While we certainly have more passenger cars available these days than we did a few years ago, the selection is still somewhat hit-and-miss, at least in plastic. (If you build your own using etched car sides, or purchase brass cars, your choices are much broader).

While we here at MR are not ready to undertake another large survey like we just did with locomotives, I thought a quick electronic show of hands might be fun. What passenger car(s) would you most like to see mass-produced, and in which scale?

Look forward to reading your votes!
Terry


I'm in HO. I'd like to see:

Santa Fe heavyweights. Coaches http://photoswest.org/cgi-bin/imager?00002284+OP-2284, dinershttp://photoswest.org/cgi-bin/imager?00002273+OP-2273, head-end cars, lounge cars. Green, TT gray and also silver shadow lined to look like streamliners.

Southern Pacific "Subs", the 20's era commuter coaches. Either that or a replacement window strip that will make an Athearn arch roof coach look like an SP "Sub". Like this one: http://thejoekorner.quuxuum.org/sopac/3170048.gif

SP articulated streamline coaches http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Oracle/1631/sanluis1.jpg and an SP 3 unit articulated coffeee shop diner http://www.trainpage.com/tSp/images/SP-PsgrStoredH_tonTX12-2231.jpg.

Accurate Harriman coaches appropriate for the steam/diesel transition era.

That's really not too much to ask for, is it?

Andre
It's really kind of hard to support your local hobby shop when the nearest hobby shop that's worth the name is a 150 mile roundtrip.
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, July 27, 2004 2:41 PM
I would like to see the first Metroliner cars. Also back in the 60's Budd make some cars for the PRR. There were called Keystone cars.
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, July 27, 2004 2:41 PM
I would like to see the first Metroliner cars. Also back in the 60's Budd make some cars for the PRR. There were called Keystone cars.
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, July 22, 2004 12:21 AM
My layout is 4x8 which means forced compression vs. selective compression. The shortys including the non-proto shortys is what works so I have a lot of Athearn and MDC/Roundhouse. But the desire to detail is just as strong as if I had 33" curves to work with. So I'd like to see Kalmbach/Model Railroader produce a book on detailing passenger cars with a chapter or two for the non-proto with parts suppliers. Current sources for general information such as Harriman roof detail, popular interior colors by era, and web sites or other readily available source for road name specific peculiarties.
Something that encourages modification to minimize the the toy-like, extreme coupler clearance, bon fire in the cab, no doors, no vestible look that these cars come with. I'm slowly figuring it out but freights and locomotives aren't nearly this hard.
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, July 22, 2004 12:21 AM
My layout is 4x8 which means forced compression vs. selective compression. The shortys including the non-proto shortys is what works so I have a lot of Athearn and MDC/Roundhouse. But the desire to detail is just as strong as if I had 33" curves to work with. So I'd like to see Kalmbach/Model Railroader produce a book on detailing passenger cars with a chapter or two for the non-proto with parts suppliers. Current sources for general information such as Harriman roof detail, popular interior colors by era, and web sites or other readily available source for road name specific peculiarties.
Something that encourages modification to minimize the the toy-like, extreme coupler clearance, bon fire in the cab, no doors, no vestible look that these cars come with. I'm slowly figuring it out but freights and locomotives aren't nearly this hard.
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, July 21, 2004 7:25 AM
The industry seems to be afraid of Budd cars. Maybe it's because of the smaller fluting. I would like to see more Budd passenger cars or just car sides with nickel plating (or some type of plating for realism) for Atlantic Coast Line, Seaboard, Florida East Coast, B&O (Budd Dome, Slumbercoach), RF&P, C&O (Chessie train which never ran but their cars ran on several other railroads - Seaboard, Atlantic Coast Line, B&O, C&O), PRR - Senator & Congressional cars. Also Budd Square end observations plus round end observations. I am not ready to invest in the high cost of brass import trains. NKP car company has made a good start on Budd cars, but I would like to see the rest of the industry catch up. Also Pullman betterment cars for the 40's and 50's would be great. Plastic is great for HW standard and LW smoothsides, but not LW Budd and PS streamlined passenger cars with fluting.
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, July 21, 2004 7:25 AM
The industry seems to be afraid of Budd cars. Maybe it's because of the smaller fluting. I would like to see more Budd passenger cars or just car sides with nickel plating (or some type of plating for realism) for Atlantic Coast Line, Seaboard, Florida East Coast, B&O (Budd Dome, Slumbercoach), RF&P, C&O (Chessie train which never ran but their cars ran on several other railroads - Seaboard, Atlantic Coast Line, B&O, C&O), PRR - Senator & Congressional cars. Also Budd Square end observations plus round end observations. I am not ready to invest in the high cost of brass import trains. NKP car company has made a good start on Budd cars, but I would like to see the rest of the industry catch up. Also Pullman betterment cars for the 40's and 50's would be great. Plastic is great for HW standard and LW smoothsides, but not LW Budd and PS streamlined passenger cars with fluting.
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, July 20, 2004 8:12 AM
I would love to see Budd's Metorliner cars. How about PRR's keystone cars build by Budd in the 60's. Do anybody have pictures of these two cars. Please email them to me. richardtrains@comcast.net
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, July 20, 2004 8:12 AM
I would love to see Budd's Metorliner cars. How about PRR's keystone cars build by Budd in the 60's. Do anybody have pictures of these two cars. Please email them to me. richardtrains@comcast.net
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, July 20, 2004 7:21 AM
AMTRAK SURFLINER ![:)][:)][:)][:)][:)]

I have the Athearn F59PHI and the OMI cars are GREAT but too expensive!

A locomotive for 50 $ and a 4 car train for about 2.000 - No !!!
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, July 20, 2004 7:21 AM
AMTRAK SURFLINER ![:)][:)][:)][:)][:)]

I have the Athearn F59PHI and the OMI cars are GREAT but too expensive!

A locomotive for 50 $ and a 4 car train for about 2.000 - No !!!
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Posted by mtoda on Tuesday, July 20, 2004 2:29 AM
Athearn is making ACE Train Bombardiers in HO scale. I'd like them in N-scale. But then I'd want F40PHs to pull them.
And it'd be nice if Athearn produced CalTrain F59PHIs in N-scale to match the Bombardier cars that they do make.
BART would be interesting too.

(The Altamont Commuter Express runs through the Altamont Pass to San Jose.)
I guess you can tell that I'm from the Bay Area!
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Posted by mtoda on Tuesday, July 20, 2004 2:29 AM
Athearn is making ACE Train Bombardiers in HO scale. I'd like them in N-scale. But then I'd want F40PHs to pull them.
And it'd be nice if Athearn produced CalTrain F59PHIs in N-scale to match the Bombardier cars that they do make.
BART would be interesting too.

(The Altamont Commuter Express runs through the Altamont Pass to San Jose.)
I guess you can tell that I'm from the Bay Area!
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Posted by leighant on Monday, July 19, 2004 9:37 PM
N scale Santa Fe heavyweight coach, 10 long wide windows each side, no belt rail, channel underframe. Specific Santa Fe design. And I am too cheap to buy brass.
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Posted by leighant on Monday, July 19, 2004 9:37 PM
N scale Santa Fe heavyweight coach, 10 long wide windows each side, no belt rail, channel underframe. Specific Santa Fe design. And I am too cheap to buy brass.
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Posted by Junctionfan on Monday, July 19, 2004 2:54 PM
I would like to see Via's Renaissance equipment.
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Posted by Junctionfan on Monday, July 19, 2004 2:54 PM
I would like to see Via's Renaissance equipment.
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, July 19, 2004 2:03 PM
alot of NJT cars would be great
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, July 19, 2004 2:03 PM
alot of NJT cars would be great
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, July 18, 2004 1:43 PM
This is a follow-up to SJCOOL:s post about the Mopac ACF cars.

After the second world war, there was a series of cars done by American Car and Foundry with Corr-Tenn steel underbodies and riveted alumiinum superstructures. There were two series of coaches done for the MoPac/T&P which were copied by the Kansas City Southern, another road which liked the subtle art deco portholes. These cars went to CNJ and LIRR after passenger service ended on the orginal owners. With Walthers sides being separate from the rest of the car, a reasonable model could be done. I would also like to see the similar riveted cars of the Wabash (operating with the UP) and the L&N which had "traditional" washroom windows. I understand there were other roads as well.

I can provide technical data should anyone be interested--- ACF appararently had modular standard side panels with two large and one small window with a seam running from top to bottom, a washroom side panel with the buyer's choice of windows (large, small, porthole, etc.), and a three large window side panel.

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, July 18, 2004 1:43 PM
This is a follow-up to SJCOOL:s post about the Mopac ACF cars.

After the second world war, there was a series of cars done by American Car and Foundry with Corr-Tenn steel underbodies and riveted alumiinum superstructures. There were two series of coaches done for the MoPac/T&P which were copied by the Kansas City Southern, another road which liked the subtle art deco portholes. These cars went to CNJ and LIRR after passenger service ended on the orginal owners. With Walthers sides being separate from the rest of the car, a reasonable model could be done. I would also like to see the similar riveted cars of the Wabash (operating with the UP) and the L&N which had "traditional" washroom windows. I understand there were other roads as well.

I can provide technical data should anyone be interested--- ACF appararently had modular standard side panels with two large and one small window with a seam running from top to bottom, a washroom side panel with the buyer's choice of windows (large, small, porthole, etc.), and a three large window side panel.

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, July 2, 2004 12:19 AM
My vote would b\e for MP54's either powered or unpowered.( LIRR ran them up til 1970.) Some LIRR P-70's would be nice too.
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, July 2, 2004 12:19 AM
My vote would b\e for MP54's either powered or unpowered.( LIRR ran them up til 1970.) Some LIRR P-70's would be nice too.
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, July 1, 2004 10:40 PM
I would like to see Pullman Standard 64 seat coaches built for NYC in 1946. I model the "green team" side of Penn Central. These cars are a must have!
Also NYC/PC ACMU's (some still in service on Metro-North). Walthers would be my first choice of mfr.
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, July 1, 2004 10:40 PM
I would like to see Pullman Standard 64 seat coaches built for NYC in 1946. I model the "green team" side of Penn Central. These cars are a must have!
Also NYC/PC ACMU's (some still in service on Metro-North). Walthers would be my first choice of mfr.
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Posted by Amtrk14 on Thursday, June 10, 2004 10:47 AM
I would like to see the Amtrak Surfliner(blue/silver) Cars and the Amtrak California Cars. Also an Amtrak Pacific Parlour Car.

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