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Eraser fun
Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, December 29, 2005 9:02 PM
I've been inspired by some of the artistic talent I've seen online lately. Specifically when it comes to weathering. I have therefore decided that if I want something half as nice as what I've seen on here as well as other boards, I better get crack-a-lackin. I am no artist (yet), so I have to learn things tha hard way, and when good ideas are presented, I file them away to make my life a little easier. That being said, I heard about a method of fading that involved pen erasers. So guess what? I got a pen eraser, and a $2.00 Athearn Railbox and went to work.

Before


After


Let me know what ya'll think.

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, December 29, 2005 9:52 PM
it's a good start! Kicking myself for my way which was rubbing alchohol and a sore arm and it didn't work as well as that. now get some weather chalks and you'll have a profesional looking weathering job in no time.
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, December 29, 2005 9:56 PM
[#ditto]what he said as far as a little chalk, and you did nice work. I have yet to attempt weathering a loco, but am going to weather a scratchbuilt structure as my next project.

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Posted by loathar on Thursday, December 29, 2005 11:13 PM
Now you have to drizzle some gooey, caustic looking stuff in the same places where you erased the decals.(you know, just like natures acid rain [;)])
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Posted by dknelson on Friday, December 30, 2005 8:28 AM
Nice work Glenn. That is an excellent effect which actually mimics lettering being worn away or faded, something very difficult to do by ADDING weathering over lettering.

You mention using a pen eraser. That of course has a bit more grit than a standard pencil eraser. (A Bright Boy track cleaner seems to be of the same stuff as a pen eraser). There used to be, back in the day, something called a typewriter eraser, which was a disk and brush assembly, but I do not know if those had more or less or the same amount of grit as a pen eraser. There might be times when you want less grit than a pen eraser, which is why I mention the point.
There is also a product seen at art supply stores that looks like a big thick pencil but is entirely a rather hard paper material. There is a specific name for this item and I regret to say I have forgotten the word (it is a French word). Anyway, those products are more abrasive than a pencil eraser but less so than a pen eraser. It too might have uses for the kind of weathering you have shown us here.
In fact I would advise any modeler to spend some time looking at the shelves of a really well equipped art supply store. There are various products which are useful to modelers particularly in the weathering area. There is also a wide variety of spray can fixitives, matte coatings, and the like.
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Posted by simon1966 on Friday, December 30, 2005 8:37 AM
The eraser effect looks very good. The next step would be to try and make the yellow paint look aged to match the fading of the lettering. From my own experience it seems that Athearn has used different paints of decals for lettering over the years. I often start my models with an ink wash made from india ink and isophoryl alcohol. Sometimes this mixture smears the lettering, other time it does not.

Simon Modelling CB&Q and Wabash See my slowly evolving layout on my picturetrail site http://www.picturetrail.com/simontrains and our videos at http://www.youtube.com/user/MrCrispybake?feature=mhum

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, December 30, 2005 10:31 AM
Thanks for the responses. The pen eraser I'm using is actually on the pen. It is a Paper Mate pen and the eraser is NOT like the old grey ones they used to have that were gritty. This one is more like a pencil eraser. I had to rub ALOT to get the effect you see in the pics. Next time I'm in Michael's, I'll pay closer attention to the eraser section.

Next step is a grunge coating using a wash of some type, haven't decided yet which one.

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, December 30, 2005 1:36 PM
I used a regular pencil eraser on the other side, and found that it actually worked a little bit better. It's rough on the erasers though.

Here is the second phase. I applied a light coat of Dullcote, allowed to dry, and then washed it with India ink and water, as suggested earlier (thanks).




Whaddya think?

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, December 30, 2005 10:15 PM
Well, I finished her off. I painted the rust on and it looks pretty OK, maybe just a tad much. I'll thin my India ink more next time, I think it darkened up too much. I'll post pics tomorrow, I have to let a buddy see it first.

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Posted by simon1966 on Friday, December 30, 2005 10:28 PM
You might be right on the ink wash. My mixture is about 1 to 1 1/2 teaspoons of the india ink in a pint of 70% Isporyl alcohol. This gives a subtle effect but can be built up with further coats. Looking good though. I can't wait to try the eraser effect on my next project.

Simon Modelling CB&Q and Wabash See my slowly evolving layout on my picturetrail site http://www.picturetrail.com/simontrains and our videos at http://www.youtube.com/user/MrCrispybake?feature=mhum

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, December 31, 2005 10:10 AM
Well, here it is. I thinks is too dark, I need to dilute the ink wash a little more. There is always next time, but everybody needs a beat to crap car on their layout.





Let me know what you think. All criticizim (sp) welcomed.

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Posted by fievel on Sunday, January 1, 2006 8:45 AM
Very nice job ! That boxcar looks like it's hauled many loads in it's service.

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, January 1, 2006 9:08 AM
Thank you.

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Posted by jeffers_mz on Sunday, January 1, 2006 3:58 PM
That's the horridest looking boxcar I've ever seen.

Well done!

I was going to suggest some white chalk on the black door to represent paint oxidation, but with the rust, it's not necessary.
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, January 1, 2006 4:04 PM
Why thank you, thank you very much. [:)]

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, January 1, 2006 5:43 PM
Just curious, what method did you use to make the rust spots on the roof?
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Posted by TrainFreak409 on Sunday, January 1, 2006 6:03 PM
That turned out great. And I happen to have some pen erasers...Hmmm...Ideas ideas ideas.[:D]

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, January 1, 2006 7:27 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by JPM335

Just curious, what method did you use to make the rust spots on the roof?


After the India ink wash, I miked up some acrylic artist paints, you know, the ones in tubes. Anyway, I first did the lighter rust color. That is a mix of 2-3 parts yellow ochre, 1 part vermillion red, and 1 part burnt umber. I really just kinda winged it, but the color came out good once put onto the model, so I went with it. After the lighter rust areas were dry, I used straight burnt umber for the dark spots. The nice thing about acrylics is, if you goof up, just wipe it off with some water and a paper towel or paintbrush.

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, January 1, 2006 7:40 PM
Thanks, Im almost finished weathering a railbox of my own.[:D]
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Posted by simon1966 on Sunday, January 1, 2006 7:43 PM
Glenn, very nice result. You have inspired me to try a couple of different things. The eraser method and also mixing my own colors from acrylics. So far I have limited myself to "rust" paint sold for MRR.

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, January 2, 2006 6:22 PM
Thanks for all the positive responses, I really appreciate them. My next project is an Athearn BN boxcar. I replaced the stuirrups today and shaved off the crappy looking plastic grab irons on the sides and cut some new ones from some wire. Weathering will be much more subdued than the railbox. Stay tuned...I'll post pics when done [;)]

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, January 2, 2006 6:27 PM
Looks Great!!! nice Job
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, January 2, 2006 8:03 PM
For a first job, it's fine. I'd suggest leaving the black paint/ink alone and going for a golden-brown look on Railbox's, such as this: http://rr-fallenflags.org/rbox/rbox43104agd.jpg .

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, January 2, 2006 8:14 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by uspscsx

For a first job, it's fine. I'd suggest leaving the black paint/ink alone and going for a golden-brown look on Railbox's

Matt



Ohhhh, that' nice. But I still think a little black wash will enhance the grungy look. I just got the dilution too dark. That was the look I was going for, buuuut....

Maybe a brown wash instead. I need another Railbox...

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, January 6, 2006 5:21 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by phatpony

QUOTE: Originally posted by uspscsx

For a first job, it's fine. I'd suggest leaving the black paint/ink alone and going for a golden-brown look on Railbox's

Matt



Ohhhh, that' nice. But I still think a little black wash will enhance the grungy look. I just got the dilution too dark. That was the look I was going for, buuuut....

Maybe a brown wash instead. I need another Railbox...

Glenn

Be careful, they're addictive. [:D]

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