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Posted by Driline on Thursday, April 3, 2008 4:52 PM

Heres my final weathering picture of my first attempt at a rusty HO trailer. I'm going to purchase some AIM weathering products next time and hopefully do better.

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Posted by Robby P. on Thursday, April 3, 2008 7:40 AM
I had no idea Walthers sold it.  Dunce [D)]

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Posted by Driline on Thursday, April 3, 2008 7:05 AM

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Jeremy I think it looks good.  As far as the powder.  I use Bragdon powders.  I mostly use them for a quick fade and mainly rust spots.  They reall don't seem to fade to much to me, other than the white/gray powder.  Someone said that the AIMS white powder doesn't fade away when you dullcote it.  I have never tried so I reall don't know.  I know there is someone on modeltrainsweather.com that sells it.  Might wanna look into it. 

Walthers sells the AIM's products. I am going to buy some so my stuff will look waaay better than neutrino's. he he.

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Posted by Robby P. on Wednesday, April 2, 2008 11:56 PM
Jeremy I think it looks good.  As far as the powder.  I use Bragdon powders.  I mostly use them for a quick fade and mainly rust spots.  They reall don't seem to fade to much to me, other than the white/gray powder.  Someone said that the AIMS white powder doesn't fade away when you dullcote it.  I have never tried so I reall don't know.  I know there is someone on modeltrainsweather.com that sells it.  Might wanna look into it. 

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Posted by mtrails on Wednesday, April 2, 2008 10:49 PM

One of my better attempts... This is my 6th ever car weathering. I even had some fun and inserted the model photograph into a real one.Cool [8D]

As I have experimented with powders, I find that when dull-coted, the effect is diminished, or non existent. Is there a trick to weathering with powders and locking in the effect? Otherwise when I handle the car, the powder comes off onto my fingers.  I had applied gray powder to the lower portion of the car to give it a road grime effect, and as you can see in the photo, or um, can't see...

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Posted by AggroJones on Wednesday, April 2, 2008 7:32 PM

 

Thanks Robby. 

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Thats pretty sweet. Can we get a shot with better focus?

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Posted by PASMITH on Tuesday, April 1, 2008 8:11 PM



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Posted by Robby P. on Tuesday, April 1, 2008 6:22 PM

Honestly thats my very weak spot.  I can't do them to save my life.  I look at some photos and try to get some idea.  I nomally use oils, and powders.  Just let my mind go free.  I use to us a special rusting agent (forgot the name) on a few roofs.  Looked pretty good.  I think Aggro is one that does roof VERY good.  I just don't like doing them, even thou you have to. 

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Posted by Driline on Tuesday, April 1, 2008 6:18 PM
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Heres a few of my latest cars.  I didn't do to much to them.  Trying to stay away from the normal rust buckets I do.  Now the rucks aren't that rusted looking in person.  They are way more black than that.  I guess its the light and the shadow of the car doing that.

 

The milwaukee road hopper looks great. How do you rust the tops of your boxcars?

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Posted by Robby P. on Tuesday, April 1, 2008 5:39 PM
Looks real good Chip.  It would take me forever to do something like that.

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Posted by SpaceMouse on Tuesday, April 1, 2008 5:09 PM

Here's a slightly weathered N-scale coal mine.

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Posted by Driline on Tuesday, April 1, 2008 5:06 PM
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Yes, Burnt umber artist oil for the base. But what did I use for the rust? Aggro what about a light dusting with chalk? Yes..No? And should I give it a light brush of extremely diluted india ink?

Yes to the ink wash.Then I say go with some brand of weathering powders, MIG, Bragdon, or AIM, as opposed to chalk. Seal it. The drybrushing should come at the end.

Thanks...I need to buy some AIM weathering powders. Why weathering powders over chalk though?

For the rust I used real rust scraped from the sides of a paint can. I treated that stuff like GOLD! I'm going out now in the garage to mine for more. I've got a little red wagon thats rusty on the bottom I'll attempt to harvest from as well.

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Posted by AggroJones on Tuesday, April 1, 2008 4:55 PM
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Yes, Burnt umber artist oil for the base. But what did I use for the rust? Aggro what about a light dusting with chalk? Yes..No? And should I give it a light brush of extremely diluted india ink?

Yes to the ink wash.Then I say go with some brand of weathering powders, MIG, Bragdon, or AIM, as opposed to chalk. Seal it. The drybrushing should come at the end.

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Posted by CSX_road_slug on Tuesday, April 1, 2008 4:30 PM

Here is my most recent 'finished'  weathering project, a 2-bay ACF cement hopper in faded Chessie paint:

It's not exactly proto, I discovered after I was 85% done that the one I was replicating had its roofwalks overhanging by 1ft on each end.Banged Head [banghead]

But right now I'm working on another Chessie cement hopper similar to RobbyP's, a PS-2 2600 cu.ft. Athearn model - when I'm done it'll [hopefully] look like this one...

...stay tuned! 

 

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Posted by Driline on Tuesday, April 1, 2008 4:29 PM
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And lastly you tell me what I used for the rust color and you get a free membership to the genius model railroad weathering club."

 Burnt Umber artist oil?

 

Oh yeah, lightly drybrush all high points with in this case white to make it "pop".

Yes, Burnt umber artist oil for the base. But what did I use for the rust? Aggro what about a light dusting with chalk? Yes..No? And should I give it a light brush of extremely diluted india ink?

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Posted by AggroJones on Tuesday, April 1, 2008 3:58 PM
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And lastly you tell me what I used for the rust color and you get a free membership to the genius model railroad weathering club."

 Burnt Umber artist oil?

 

Oh yeah, lightly drybrush all high points with in this case white to make it "pop".

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Posted by Robby P. on Tuesday, April 1, 2008 3:11 PM

Heres a few of my latest cars.  I didn't do to much to them.  Trying to stay away from the normal rust buckets I do.  Now the trucks aren't that rusted looking in person.  They are way more black than that.  I guess its the light and the shadow of the car doing that.

 

 

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Posted by Driline on Tuesday, April 1, 2008 1:34 PM

Forgive me for the double post in Modelers Sympodium, but I wanted to make sure the experts see this post.

"Ok I need some help on my first ever try at "rusting". Here's an HO trailer in progress. I can already tell you that I smeared too much rust on the back door. My question is:

  • shall I coat the body with a diluted wash of india ink to give it the grimy look
  • What color chalk should I use to "lighten" up the rust mistake on the door.
  • Is it normal to use a very very light coating of black chalk here and there or should I go with a light grey.
  • Do you guys usually light brush the edges with a dry white paint to give it that highlighted look?

And lastly you tell me what I used for the rust color and you get a free membership to the genius model railroad weathering club."

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Posted by jktrains on Tuesday, February 19, 2008 8:51 PM
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Here's a better shot of it, taken after it was cleaned up and put in place.

 

Jeff, now that's better.  A weathered structure.  One comment - you need to remove the masking tape from the windows and inside and replace with some either clear styrene or styrene that's back painted black.

Soory about quoting the pic, but I thought it was needed.

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Posted by MrKLUKE on Monday, February 18, 2008 7:57 PM

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Posted by ProtoWeathering on Monday, February 18, 2008 6:25 PM
Paint the wheels and trucks a nice greasy balck and paint the coupler a rust color and it would look better than most.
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Posted by CP5415 on Monday, February 18, 2008 6:21 PM

Your thoughts? Constructive Criticism?

I "weathered" the hopper about 10 years ago.

The caboose, well, it's been weathering for about 40 years now

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Posted by Dave Vollmer on Monday, February 18, 2008 4:14 PM

Jeff,

You know, that looks pretty good, especially weeded-in like that.  Certainly looks like some place I wouldn't want to go into without tall boots (looks like where a snake might want to set up shop).

I like the coloring of the walls.  I wonder if a dusting or too of a more orange pastel chalk dust (representing newer rust) might accent it a bit.

Rust is perhaps the most fun (in my opinion) to model.

Here are some more subtle weathering effects on the slag loader at the Berwind-White No. 43 Mine on the N Scale PRR Middle Division:

This was done by adding successive layers of pastel dust, ranging from brown to orange.  I also washed it between dustings with a thinned grimy black wash.  When I had gotten the right mottled rust effect in the places where water would naturally accumulate, I went back in dusted it one more time with brownish-orange pastel chalk dust and Dullcoted it.

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Monday, February 18, 2008 2:18 PM

Here's a better shot of it, taken after it was cleaned up and put in place.

 

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Posted by ProtoWeathering on Monday, February 18, 2008 1:34 PM
 Driline wrote:
 jeffrey-wimberly wrote:

Nice work Aggro!

Now if y'all want weathered, how's this?

This shed looks like it'll fall over in a stiff breeze. 

I'm no Pro so I won't critique it. The only thing I noticed is I think I see cat or dog hair hanging over the barrel there.

AggroJones? Neutrino? Any comments, suggestions?

Yes, give the guy a break. MRRing is fun, for some. Let him have his. That's not cat or dog hair that's a scale spider web. 

I like the building Jeffery. Thanks for posting it. 

 

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Posted by Driline on Monday, February 18, 2008 12:29 PM
 jeffrey-wimberly wrote:

Nice work Aggro!

Now if y'all want weathered, how's this?

This shed looks like it'll fall over in a stiff breeze. 

I'm no Pro so I won't critique it. The only thing I noticed is I think I see cat or dog hair hanging over the barrel there.

AggroJones? Neutrino? Any comments, suggestions?

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Monday, February 18, 2008 12:17 PM

Nice work Aggro!

Now if y'all want weathered, how's this?

This shed looks like it'll fall over in a stiff breeze. 

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Posted by AggroJones on Sunday, February 17, 2008 7:33 PM
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Put the Steam stuff up!  I have seen them before and they are good!

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I'll go find them. In the mean time....

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Posted by bportrail on Sunday, February 17, 2008 7:26 PM

Put the Steam stuff up!  I have seen them before and they are good!

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Posted by AggroJones on Sunday, February 17, 2008 7:12 PM
 Driline wrote:

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Museum quality as always. Something I've never seen before though would be an entire consist that included ALL weathered cars including the engine. Do you have such a picture?

 

Not of my modern stuff. I do have some shots of weathered steam hauling freight though.

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