Sir Madog My first attempt at weathering a caboose ended up in a total loss of the car - This is my second attempt - not yet completely finished, but, IMHO, already presentable:
My first attempt at weathering a caboose ended up in a total loss of the car -
This is my second attempt - not yet completely finished, but, IMHO, already presentable:
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I'm learning a lot from you guys on this thread. One thing I just learned---little brush strokes---little brush strokes.
Aggro: your rust spots are neat!! I'm starting to see why these pieces of rolling stock take so long to build up-----
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I have always love the weathering pix posted here, from everyone. Occasionally in my email I got a notice someone put up something new. I popped on, checked it out, smiled and moved on. Unfortunately in the last day I have recieved over 60 notices, most of them condescending towards others. I have chosen to unsubscribe from this great thread. I am sad about this, but I cannot have my email flooded with all the notices. I will occasionally pop in to check out anything new.
To those who have posted all the pix... thank you.
To those who have ruined a good thing...(left blank)
PS the title of the thread is "show your weathered models!!!" Let's keep it that way.
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No prob crandell. No pleasing certain people. But who cares anyway? Downing me doesn't effect my actual modeling. No matter how its stated.
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Sorry. You're right Crandell.
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I don't like the tone I see developing here. Please put a rest to it.
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TMarshelogger and i think it's interesting that you choose this forum instead of MTW to all of a sudden become much more loquacious... i guess it's easy to be thought so highly of when the bar is set so low and hence you don't hesitate to speak your mind.... ??????? Could so many be so wrong? Oh my, I watch this forum all the time and marvel at the weathering done here and hope to improve my ranking from that of blind 3rd grader. So are you saying what I think you are saying? If you are, you have successfully insulted everyone on this forum in one fell swoop. Congratulations. Or is that the constructive criticism of which you speak.
elogger and i think it's interesting that you choose this forum instead of MTW to all of a sudden become much more loquacious... i guess it's easy to be thought so highly of when the bar is set so low and hence you don't hesitate to speak your mind....
??????? Could so many be so wrong? Oh my, I watch this forum all the time and marvel at the weathering done here and hope to improve my ranking from that of blind 3rd grader. So are you saying what I think you are saying? If you are, you have successfully insulted everyone on this forum in one fell swoop. Congratulations. Or is that the constructive criticism of which you speak.
to put it in context, if mr. aggro is known here as a master, then yeah, i guess i just insulted everyone here... and i guess having an opinion unto myself here is not allowed?
jeremy
AggroJoneselogger Driline elogger wow... aggro is a master? jeremy Yes...And? i respectfully and strenuously disagree... jeremy Ouch....Ohh my god! What am I gonna do now!? elogger thinks I'm no good! Awwww geezzeee!!!! i'm crying in my pillow!!!!
elogger Driline elogger wow... aggro is a master? jeremy Yes...And? i respectfully and strenuously disagree... jeremy
Driline elogger wow... aggro is a master? jeremy Yes...And?
elogger wow... aggro is a master? jeremy
wow... aggro is a master?
Yes...And?
i respectfully and strenuously disagree...
nope, you do what you do well... though you tend to do that over and over and over and over... though you supposedly abhor assembly line weathering, apparently that is not when speaking of yourself...
and i think it's interesting that you choose this forum instead of MTW to all of a sudden become much more loquacious... i guess it's easy to be thought so highly of when the bar is set so low and hence you don't hesitate to speak your mind....
very interesting indeed...
and just remember, i only said i disagreed with your BFF... nothing else... im sure you're sitting there awaiting the 'atta boys' that you're so accustomed to hearing in here...
AggroJones elogger Driline elogger wow... aggro is a master? jeremy Yes...And? i respectfully and strenuously disagree... jeremy Ouch....Ohh my god! What am I gonna do now!? elogger thinks I'm no good! Awwww geezzeee!!!! i'm crying in my pillow!!!!
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now that pic of the gon makes the white seem to flow...
Fish?
Anyway, you're both right about the trucks and they were toned a bit after these shots, but I couldn't find the pictures to post. The rust inside the gon is Sophisticated finishes and we know how that can be overdone. As for the colors on the car, black can be overdone too so I stopped until my customer was happy. If I were doing it for myself I probably still wouldn't be done with it yet.
Here's the full car with load.
More trucks:
Another gon.
Any more pictures and I'd take up more bandwidth than "you know who".
This is all very inspiring. But hey, where is that kid with the fish now? Huh?
Thought so...
Drilineelogger wow... aggro is a master? jeremy Yes...And?
Drilineeloggerok jerry, your turn... im assuming you took this pic before you finished the trucks and wheels because they just look spray painted... the top ledge of the gon looks nice... it looks like real metal... i assume that was the look you were going for when you applied the white up the side of the car from the bottom... either that or just to add a little highlight... i think you stopped too soon there and probably could have added more color like you did on the top edge to get a little better effect there... if you were going for a faded look you could have added a little raw umber or maybe a darker gray color instead of white... inside, the rust looks nice though i'm not a fan of the hugely bubbled rust spots like in the corner... in a gon, i can't imagine that that rust would be left there to bubble and boil like that... it would probably be knocked off by something being loaded in or taken out... it's nice rust, i just think it's out of place... Now thats scary. I didn't read your critique before I posted mine. They are eerily similar don't you think? And I'm just a know nothing grunt
eloggerok jerry, your turn... im assuming you took this pic before you finished the trucks and wheels because they just look spray painted... the top ledge of the gon looks nice... it looks like real metal... i assume that was the look you were going for when you applied the white up the side of the car from the bottom... either that or just to add a little highlight... i think you stopped too soon there and probably could have added more color like you did on the top edge to get a little better effect there... if you were going for a faded look you could have added a little raw umber or maybe a darker gray color instead of white... inside, the rust looks nice though i'm not a fan of the hugely bubbled rust spots like in the corner... in a gon, i can't imagine that that rust would be left there to bubble and boil like that... it would probably be knocked off by something being loaded in or taken out... it's nice rust, i just think it's out of place...
ok jerry, your turn...
im assuming you took this pic before you finished the trucks and wheels because they just look spray painted... the top ledge of the gon looks nice... it looks like real metal... i assume that was the look you were going for when you applied the white up the side of the car from the bottom... either that or just to add a little highlight... i think you stopped too soon there and probably could have added more color like you did on the top edge to get a little better effect there... if you were going for a faded look you could have added a little raw umber or maybe a darker gray color instead of white... inside, the rust looks nice though i'm not a fan of the hugely bubbled rust spots like in the corner... in a gon, i can't imagine that that rust would be left there to bubble and boil like that... it would probably be knocked off by something being loaded in or taken out... it's nice rust, i just think it's out of place...
Now thats scary. I didn't read your critique before I posted mine. They are eerily similar don't you think? And I'm just a know nothing grunt
they are... you should come on over to MTW...
Neutrino Rubbing the deck with whatever it is you used still doesn't keep it from screaming "Gray Plastic!" The deck could have been removed and manipulated a bit to show a lack of uniformity. The molded edges really stick out in the first photo.Wooden decks can be made to look like wood, I think the technique can be found in MR. These wooden decks were bolted down to the cast frames on these cars. The bolt heads should be darkened to show that they aren't just plastic pimples. The exposed cast deck on the ends of the top should also show some wear or discoloration. A replacement wood deck is available for this car, but it takes more than real wood to make it look good and that would be another lesson. H Minkie (sp?) had an on-line series of how to make plastic look like wood, but I don't have the reference at the moment. You dare me to find fault and then you point out the second most obvious thing that you missed, no fade or color tone variance at all on the part of the side we can see. The patch of 'rust' you show really has no reason to be there. The side pockets don't look too bad. If you would have used the same care on the rest of the car it might be much better looking. The couplers probably need to be painted, but with the minimal amount of pictures, this is about all I can see. I can't see the trucks or wheels either, maybe more pictures are in order?All this is really subjective. What works for some won't work for others. I'm not taking you to task for calling me a hack either, opinions are like elbows, most everybody has at least one.I haven't done a flat car in a while, but here's part of a gon I recently finished for a customer.
Rubbing the deck with whatever it is you used still doesn't keep it from screaming "Gray Plastic!" The deck could have been removed and manipulated a bit to show a lack of uniformity. The molded edges really stick out in the first photo.Wooden decks can be made to look like wood, I think the technique can be found in MR. These wooden decks were bolted down to the cast frames on these cars. The bolt heads should be darkened to show that they aren't just plastic pimples. The exposed cast deck on the ends of the top should also show some wear or discoloration. A replacement wood deck is available for this car, but it takes more than real wood to make it look good and that would be another lesson. H Minkie (sp?) had an on-line series of how to make plastic look like wood, but I don't have the reference at the moment.
You dare me to find fault and then you point out the second most obvious thing that you missed, no fade or color tone variance at all on the part of the side we can see. The patch of 'rust' you show really has no reason to be there. The side pockets don't look too bad. If you would have used the same care on the rest of the car it might be much better looking.
The couplers probably need to be painted, but with the minimal amount of pictures, this is about all I can see.
I can't see the trucks or wheels either, maybe more pictures are in order?
All this is really subjective. What works for some won't work for others.
I'm not taking you to task for calling me a hack either, opinions are like elbows, most everybody has at least one.
I haven't done a flat car in a while, but here's part of a gon I recently finished for a customer.
While on a whole the model is quite believable, IMHO I think the trucks are much too bland. It looks like you used a single medium without the proper color variation or noticeable highlights. The interior of the Gondola while striking looks a bit too much , but if you're going for that "acne" stippled look its spot on. But I digress. I would prefer Aggrojones to give you a proper critique. As the previous poster eluded to, its better to learn from master modelers then us mere mortals.
The wheels were weathered with "Sophisticated Finishes" using their rust solution purchased from Michaels Craft Stores.
elogger am i supposed to critique yours now too jerry? lol jeremy
am i supposed to critique yours now too jerry? lol
Darn straight! Lemme have it.
Driline Wheels...Again, you list all of the things you think are wrong or could be done better on this model without explaining HOW. We don't need a novel length explanation, but gee how about a few tips or hints on the processes involved. Like I mentioned using a specific brand of paint and HOW I used it. The posters here shouldn't have to join MTW just to gain a few tips or hints on the exact methodology of weathering.
Wheels...
Again, you list all of the things you think are wrong or could be done better on this model without explaining HOW. We don't need a novel length explanation, but gee how about a few tips or hints on the processes involved. Like I mentioned using a specific brand of paint and HOW I used it. The posters here shouldn't have to join MTW just to gain a few tips or hints on the exact methodology of weathering.
no, they don't have to but there are many more people over there than can critique and offer tips than just jerry and until a couple days ago, myself...
as far as your wheels, they don't look too bad but i think they would either be clean on the edges or dirty, not in between... the trucks have decent coloration but they look like the paint or whatever is a little caked on... if i had to guess i'd take a stab and say that you used powder over some wet paint maybe... the highlights are nice...
as far as the car, are those supposed to be streaks or spots coming from your stake pockets? i can't tell... they seem to be a mixture of both... the coloration of the car itself is okay... i guess it could have been faded a bit but people tend to go overboard and go way to heavy on fading sometimes and the car ends up looking like it just came from a freezer but the look you have there is believable...