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Posted by gmpullman on Tuesday, January 17, 2023 5:40 AM

 

Your nose gets red when it is cold out:

 ATK SDP40F 548 Lakeshore Trn 48 Amsterdam NY Jan 1978 by Geoffrey Hubbs, on Flickr

Even colder 'up North':

 CN FP9A 6529 Quebec City PQ Jan 1976 by Geoffrey Hubbs, on Flickr



Top 'O the Page, Again!

     Well, I think it's been a while since we've had Taco Tuesday:

 Tacos by Bruce Gage, on Flickr

 IMG_0682c by Ann Hudspeth, on Flickr

 

¡Qué aproveche!

 

 

Cheers, Ed

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Posted by hon30critter on Tuesday, January 17, 2023 6:07 AM

NorthBrit
A minor thing regarding the film.  It is from 1954. 

Hi David,

Thanks for correcting me on that. I have edited the post. I was guessing that it was pre WWII.

Cheers!!

Dave

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Posted by BroadwayLion on Tuesday, January 17, 2023 6:39 AM

The Route of the Broadway Lion The Largest Subway Layout in North Dakota.

Here there be cats.                                LIONS with CAMERAS

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Posted by York1 on Tuesday, January 17, 2023 8:56 AM

Good morning, diners.  Bacon, eggs, and black coffee, Flo.

Dave, thanks for the info on Ulrich.  I hope he and Petra finally find some peace.  I may try to write him today.

Another snow storm is on the way, so it's a day to go to the grocery store.  This is predicted to be bigger than we've had this season, with about a foot of snow.  The amount doesn't bother us -- the wind with it makes things bad.  I got the snow blower running yesterday.  It's actually pretty nice that this will be the first time running the snow blower this season.  This is late for us.

Big SmileBig Smile

After a long time of cutting plastic beams, measuring wrong and cutting them again, re-cutting them, gluing (glueing?) them, cutting them apart again, re-cutting them,  buying more styrene since I ruined most of what I had, cutting them wrong again, ...

THE FIRST TRAIN HAS CROSSED THE BRIDGE WITHOUT INCIDENT!

There's more news from me:  I will never build another N layout bridge!  If I need one, I will buy a kit.  Better yet, all future railroad tracks will be on level ground with no need for bridges.

Here's a 30 second clip of the first BNSF locomotives (pulling an SGRR boxcar) testing the new track.

I hope it plays -- this is my first attempt with Vimeo:

 

HaHave a good day, everyone.

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Posted by SeeYou190 on Tuesday, January 17, 2023 9:13 AM

hon30critter
You can post anything related to trains, real or modeled, that suits your fancy! This should be a very interesting month!

Colorful Locomotives:

-Photograph by Kevin Parson

I normally try to avoid power lines in pictures, but they make a neat pattern in this one.

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Posted by hon30critter on Tuesday, January 17, 2023 9:26 AM

York1
THE FIRST TRAIN HAS CROSSED THE BRIDGE WITHOUT INCIDENT!

Hi John,

Congratulations!! The bridge looks great, and the structure obviously works because there was no visible deflection as the train rolled over it.

It sounds like you are a bit (a lot?!?) frustrated that you made so many mistakes, enough that you don't want to do it again. I would suggest that, now that you have learned from your mistakes, the next bridge will be much easier to get right if you choose to make another one. Even if you decide not to do another bridge, I would hope that you don't give up on scratchbuilding.

I'd like to ask if you did a full sized drawing of the bridge before starting to build it. If you didn't, then you might consider drawing the structure full size and then using it as a pattern to cut the individual pieces. If you put a sheet of waxed paper over the drawing you can use it to make both sides of the bridge and the glue will not stick to the paper. I hope you don't find my suggestion to be condescending.

At times I have been pretty frustrated with my rotary snow plow project, but if I were to do it again, the second plow would take 1/4 of the time and be a much cleaner build.

Cheers!!

Dave

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Posted by SeeYou190 on Tuesday, January 17, 2023 9:31 AM

York1
I hope it plays -- this is my first attempt with Vimeo:

It played A-OK for me. Congratulations on your success.

I am glad the SGRR was part of the event!

Big Smile

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Posted by Track fiddler on Tuesday, January 17, 2023 10:10 AM

Good morning

Wow John!  I'd have to say I'm very surprised to hear you say you had such troubles and was dissatisfied along the way of your bridge build.  One certainly couldn't tell by looking at it.

All this time I've been under the impression of your original interest to try one, is that you had fun with it and great success.  You must have had a great sense of accomplishment by looking at the beautiful resultsBow

That's too bad and I'm hopeful you realize that any scratch build of something new is a learning curve as the first one is always the guinea pig.  You already learned from all that and should be a Pro, if you ever did decide to give-er another go.

Didnt realize that Pratt truss of yours was that large, and I'm not at all hesitant to admit it turned out much more impressive then my first build of bridge #1.  I'm on bridge #8 and each of them had to be put on the back burner at one time or another.

 

Edit: 1/19/23  Unanswered question retracted, thanks.

 

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Posted by hon30critter on Tuesday, January 17, 2023 10:44 AM

This train trip is on my bucket list! There are two parts to the video:

 

Cheers!!

Dave

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Posted by SeeYou190 on Tuesday, January 17, 2023 12:17 PM

gmpullman
Well, I think it's been a while since we've had Taco Tuesday:

OK... that sounds great!

Ed, you just helped me decide what we are having for dinner tonight.

-Kevin

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Posted by "JaBear" on Wednesday, January 18, 2023 3:13 AM
That’s a great looking bridge York1John, but I can fully understand why you don’t want to scratch build another on, after all you’ve proved that you can and done a fine job to boot, but if you didn’t enjoy the process…
 
Mr. TF, those wild blueberry seeds would have to be declared and pass some stiff criteria set down by NZ Biosecurity if they were to be allowed into the country, failure by either of us to follow the rules could result in serious consequences!!! However, there are commercial local blueberry farms and I’ll make sure that Chloe has these “Blueberry Cream Cheese Muffins" available for the Diners if they so wish.
 
BB muffins. by Bear, on Flickr
 
From 2000, a 2-foot gauge sugar cane train loco running  engine light at Vuda Point, Fiji.
 
Sugar cane loco running light, 2 foot gauge, Vuda Point, 15-10-00 by Bear, on Flickr
 
Thoughts and Best Wishes to All that need them. Kia Kaha.
Cheers, the Bear.Smile

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Posted by NorthBrit on Wednesday, January 18, 2023 4:53 AM

Good morning Diners.  A coffee on the go please, Janie.

Wales

Train powered by gravity  -  Ffestiniog Railway

 

Enjoy the scenery.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oos-wkKjvKk&ab_channel=hiesler

 

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Posted by Track fiddler on Wednesday, January 18, 2023 6:03 AM

Good morning

Liked the gravity feed railroad David.  Was pondering if it was Triple G scaleWink  What a great way to go to work every morning.  The horn reminded me of the General Lee from The Dukes of Hazzard, and seen that ("Keep your arms and legs inside the ride at all times"), does not apply thereLaugh

Man those cream cheese, blueberry muffins sure look scrumptious Bear.  Mouth watering just to look at emDinner  

 

Was looking for 'Before' pictures of the Trestle over coffee this morning.  Didn't find the ones remembered but perhaps photos that were even more interesting.

Found out my old friend shares my name.  It's the John Marvig Railway Bridge of the Minneapolis Northfield & Southern Railway.  Discovering new History can be pretty cool sometimesStick out tongue

There used to be two other lines to the left and our bike path along the wavy Amtrak line to the right.  Burlington Northern ran high-speed taconite drags down those three lines in the early '70s.  Pellets were found in abundance laying in the ballast and were perfect for our wrist rockets.

 

Apparently the Minneapolis & St Louis Railway used to occupy that area at one time as well.  

There was a whole other world before me.  Never did know about Antlers Park, but it sure looked like a fun place back in the day.

They even had a picnic train and train rides for the Kids.

  Pictures courtesy of the St Louis Park Historical Society.

 

Have a great day y'all.

 

TF

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Posted by Water Level Route on Wednesday, January 18, 2023 6:08 AM

Good Morning Diners.   Chloe, a large black coffee and one of those muffins Bear left.  Actually no, make it three of those muffins.  They look tasty!

I bought a few cars off ebay this weekend.  First model railroad purchases in quite a while.  Should arrive Friday.  I'm kind of excited.  It's been too long.  I purposely wasn't buying anything since well before the holidays, and then didn't get anything for Christmas either.  

John, great job on the bridge!  Looks good!

Cheers everyone.

Mike

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Posted by York1 on Wednesday, January 18, 2023 8:55 AM

Good morning, diners.  Bacon, eggs, and black coffee, Brunhilda.

Thanks, everyone, for the encouraging comments on the layout bridge.  I woke up feeling good for a change about starting to work on some other parts of the layout.

We're hunkered down here waiting for the ice and snow.  Normally, the predictions for amounts of heavy snow go down as it gets closer, but these predictions have gone up.

The bad news -- over a foot deep by tonight.  The good news -- the snow is wet and heavy, so it won't drift too much.  The bad news -- the snow is wet and heavy, so it will be hard to scoop and move.  This is why Kevin's part of the country has so many old people moving there.

The good news -- lots of time to work on the railroad.

Have a great day, everyone.

 

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Posted by SeeYou190 on Wednesday, January 18, 2023 9:43 AM

hon30critter
You can post anything related to trains, real or modeled, that suits your fancy! This should be a very interesting month!

Have you ever had one of those days where you are driving in the middle of nowhere, and then you see a beautiful passenger car on the side of the road with no context or explanation?

-Photograph by Kevin Parson

I love those days.

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Posted by CNCharlie on Wednesday, January 18, 2023 11:01 AM

Good Morning,

Our mild, cloudy weather continues likely for 5 more days. Very unusual.

John, that is a very impressive bridge. If you do decide to go the kit route, I built a Central Valley kit that went together nicely and was challenging too. 

I have packed up most of the remaining N scale stuff to take to the LHS to sell. Just the track, scenery and some buildings left. I had taken in a BLI Mike (HO) that is being returned to me with the claim it isn't running well. It was for me so will have to find out what happened. The shop owner doesn't like BLI stuff so that might be part of the problem. I have packed up the Light Mountain instead. CN had Mountains but nothing like the USRA class.

Just got back my physical results and all is good. My A1C is back down to 5.7 so cutting the sugar worked.

No plans for today. Will finish a repair on a Branchline reefer. One of the bolt nuts they used as weights came loose. Getting the shell off was a challenge but is done and the nuts are now glued in permanently. A few detail pieces came off but the can be re-attached. Still running the Northern. Love the look of that engine.

CN Charlie

 

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Posted by BATMAN on Wednesday, January 18, 2023 12:44 PM

Good morning from the cloudy West Coast.

John, thanks for sharing the inaugural run over the bridge. The bridge looks great!

Wifes Mom is in Hospital, not sure she will be coming home. Even if she rebounds physically my FIL is past being able to care for her. My wife's Aunt has been having issues and has been phoning my wife for advice for a month. The wife kept telling her it sounds like a bad bladder infection and to get to the Doctor ASAP. She kept refusing to go and was found collapsed in her house. Yes, it was a bladder infection and because it was left untreated she now has serious kidney damage. Even her own four kids could not get her to go to the Dr. Makes you wonder.

I am a couple of days back into the cardio workout and man do I feel great. BP and HR are already improving, they had gone up to 118/75 HR51 I am usually at 102/60 HR 40ish. 

I went looking for an old tabletop hockey game I had as a kid and found one in mint condition. It was made in 1962. It is in Quebec and between what the guy wants for it and the cost of shipping I will pass. We wore the one out I had as a kid in a few short years.

My sisters' furnace crapped out in the night so she just came to get some portable oil heaters we have. She and her husband are clueless, so I will have to go over to their house when the furnace guy comes to make sure they understand the choices in new equipment.

I am on puppy duty today as the wife is dealing with her parents. The trainroom is just through the door from where the little mutts are so that is where I will be.

All the best to all.

Who knew the Panama canal had train tracks running along the bottom of it. I wonder if the locomotive has a periscope.Whistling

 

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Posted by MisterBeasley on Wednesday, January 18, 2023 1:51 PM

59 degrees F here in Delaware right now.  No nights below freezing for the next week in the forecast, but actually,  I wouldn't trust the forecast for more than a couple of days anyway.

Brent, our hospitals here were overloaded with Covid for a long time, and I can understand anyone's reluctance to go to one even now.  Our government continues to push vaccines and tries to keep the fear and anxiety level high.  We still have mask mandates just to go to the doctor's office, so if it's the same where you are I'm not surprised that going to a hospital isn't high on anyone's list.

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Posted by BATMAN on Wednesday, January 18, 2023 2:14 PM

MisterBeasley
Brent, our hospitals here were overloaded with Covid for a long time, and I can understand anyone's reluctance to go to one even now.

Ya and who can blame them, however, the Aunt only needed to go to the Dr. and get a round of antibiotics and she would have been ship shape. Now she is in hospital on IVs with failing kidneys. She has been that way about looking after herself her whole life, covid has little to do with it. She is the nicest person you could ever meet, just dumb as dirt in the area of personal well-being.

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Posted by gmpullman on Wednesday, January 18, 2023 2:39 PM

BATMAN
My sisters' furnace crapped out in the night so she just came to get some portable oil heaters we have. She and her husband are clueless, so I will have to go over to their house when the furnace guy comes to make sure they understand the choices in new equipment.

Be sure the clueless pair can handle an oil heater, Brent. Are you talking about a Kerosun-type of kerosene heater? Every winter, especially when there's a dip in the usual temperature, the incidence of house fires really jumps up. My son is a lieutenant on the fire department and has seen the disastrous results all too often.

A while back a fellow grabbed a can to refuel his kerosene heater and mistakenly put gasoline in it, while it was lit. At least that's what the forensics determined. The examiners found gasoline in plastic milk jugs stored in the garage along with kerosene in the same containers.

MisterBeasley
Our government continues to push vaccines and tries to keep the fear and anxiety level high.

My wife and I both got vaccines on our own volition. It seemed like the logical thing to do. Health agencies promoting the idea didn't particularly push my anxiety any higher. Maybe I missed it?


 

A few scenes along the Erie Lackawanna:

 EL tugs 'Akron' & 'Marion' Hoboken NJ Jun 1974 by Geoffrey Hubbs, on Flickr

 EL SDP45 3664 PO-87 from pusher Susquehanna PA Oct 1974 by Geoffrey Hubbs, on Flickr

 EL SD45s CX-99 Starucca Lanesboro PA May 1974 by Geoffrey Hubbs, on Flickr

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Posted by BATMAN on Wednesday, January 18, 2023 2:59 PM

gmpullman
Be sure the clueless pair can handle an oil heater, Brent. Are you talking about a Kerosun-type of kerosene heater?

This is the kind of thing I gave them Ed, even they can't screw these up except maybe plugging them into the same 15amp circuit.Laugh

I went over to cut their grass once when they were in Costa Rica and found four 20ltr gas cans full in the barn for the tractor, they had no tops on them. It was a stinking hot day and the barn just wreaked of gas. Needless to say, I let it air out for a long time before I went in. I had to go to the building supply and buy new tops. When I asked my BIL about it, he just said, "oh, I keep losing those".Tongue Tied

I have to do a lot for my sister. I don't mind, I love her dearly and she gives me a lot of gift certificates for PWRS for my efforts so I can't grumble too much.Laugh

gmpullman
My wife and I both got vaccines on our own volition. It seemed like the logical thing to do. Health agencies promoting the idea didn't particularly push my anxiety any higher. Maybe I missed it?

We have seen a lot of unvaccinated pets come through my wife's hospital suffering horribly from things a simple vaccine would have prevented. At some point, you have to start trusting those in the know.

But then again.

https://theflatearthsociety.org/home/index.php 

 

 

Brent

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Posted by MisterBeasley on Wednesday, January 18, 2023 3:48 PM

I wish they had a better name for those than " oil heater."  That somehow implies that it heats by burning oil, right?  I'm sure they just use some oil-like liquid to conduct heat from an electric heating element inside the unit to the surface vanes where the heat disperses into the room, so it's really an electric heater, not an oil heater.

 

On the subject of deceptive advertising,  we in the US allow all sorts of medications to advertise in TV shows, even on the Hallmark Channel which is not exactly directed to medically knowledgeable viewers.  I've noticed that sometimes half the ad is devoted to side effects and other undesirable outcomes, like death (really.)  And, that's for stuff like teenage zit cream.  But when the ads are for Covid products,  there is no mention of side effects.  We know that such side effects exist, so, as a heart patient myself, I am skeptical that consumers are getting the full picture.

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Posted by Attuvian1 on Wednesday, January 18, 2023 3:55 PM

BATMAN

I've always wondered if there's a greater preponderance of flat-earthers in places like Kansas.  Also wondered if anyone ever applied for a public grant to fund the necessary research.

I'd better get outta here before getting in further trouble Laugh .  Sorry for the minor hijack, Brent.  Feelin' frisky today, even though my cold has now set a personal record at six days.  Wife is Dutch, but I'm Phlegmish.  Arrgghh.  Coughing all night to get rid of it but it keeps coming back like weeds.  Hmm: weed?  Whistling

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Posted by BATMAN on Wednesday, January 18, 2023 4:28 PM

MisterBeasley
On the subject of deceptive advertising,  we in the US allow all sorts of medications to advertise in TV shows

There are only two countries in the world that allow the advertising of Pharmaceuticals. You can check the consumption rates of those two compared to those that don't. Sometimes I will see an ad on CNN for pharma and the line that gets me is "tell your Doctor you need"...........

I am not on any medications but when I have needed something, I read everything there is on it beforehand.

Attuvian1

 

 
BATMAN

 

I've always wondered if there's a greater preponderance of flat-earthers in places like Kansas.  Also wondered if anyone ever applied for a public grant to fund the necessary research.

I'd better get outta here before getting in further trouble Laugh .  Sorry for the minor hijack, Brent.  Feelin' frisky today, even though my cold has now set a personal record at six days.  Wife is Dutch, but I'm Phlegmish.  Arrgghh.  Coughing all night to get rid of it but it keeps coming back like weeds.  Hmm: weed?  Whistling

John

 

Did you notice that the Flat Earthers have forums? You think guys that play with toy trains are a little off, check out the flat earther forums.Laugh

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Posted by up831 on Wednesday, January 18, 2023 5:49 PM

Hi Everyone,

As near as I know, there are no more flat earthers in Kansas than anywhere else, but nice joke though.  

John:  That is one nice bridge.  It's large enough that t'll be the focal point of your layout, whether desired or not.  Very good work.  Perhaps the next project will be the Quebec bridge across the St. Lawrence.  Aye, now there's a bridge.  Pirate

Less is more,...more or less!

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Posted by BroadwayLion on Wednesday, January 18, 2023 5:56 PM

LION Went up to TrainRoom

I can do this!

Anyway I have lots of very fine wire. See:

Isnt that cool! I take old Paraller Port Printer cables apart

Everybody has several of these lying around, if not you can get one from a friend or maybe cheap at a used computer store.

Heck, go ahead and buy a new one and take that apart.

You cannot buy 24 pairs of wire for less anyway.

The Route of the Broadway Lion The Largest Subway Layout in North Dakota.

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Posted by York1 on Wednesday, January 18, 2023 6:02 PM

up831
As near as I know, there are no more flat earthers in Kansas than anywhere else, but nice joke though.  

 

I was about to say, that as I look out my layout room window, the Nebraska countryside looks pretty flat.  There is about a five-foot drop down to the creek south of our house, if that matters.

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Posted by howmus on Wednesday, January 18, 2023 7:10 PM

BroadwayLion
Heck, go ahead and buy a new one and take that apart. You cannot buy 24 pairs of wire for less anyway.

Brother Lion, are you "egging" us on again?

73

Ray Seneca Lake, Ontario, and Western R.R. (S.L.O.&W.) in HO

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Posted by BATMAN on Wednesday, January 18, 2023 7:30 PM

howmus

 

 
BroadwayLion
Heck, go ahead and buy a new one and take that apart. You cannot buy 24 pairs of wire for less anyway.

 

Brother Lion, are you "egging" us on again?

73

 

Yes, he is and that's no yolk!

Brent

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