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Posted by SeeYou190 on Thursday, January 13, 2022 7:58 PM

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Drinks Are On Me!

Tonight I am drinking George Killian's Irish Red. There is plenty for everyone.

-Photograph by Kevin Parson

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York1
I think the worst for me would be putting the sheetrock back up and blending in the texture and paint to look right.

I took down all the popcorn last year, and I have a texture guy that finishes it after I put the new drywall up.

I guess that is cheating!

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Posted by hon30critter on Thursday, January 13, 2022 8:42 PM
Hi Brent, Can you post a link to the archives for the snow plow? I'm curious to find out what fuel it used. There appears to be a tender behind the plow and there is a good sized exhaust stack so I suspect it was steam driven, but was it wood fired or coal fired? I have a couple of older tenders lined up on eBay. One has a really nice coal load and another has a decent looking wood load. Thanks, Dave

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Posted by moelarrycurly4 on Thursday, January 13, 2022 8:59 PM

Greetngs from the southern Command

we came down here to get away, now will be driving back in the snow on Sunday. It will snow here and at home, the weather guessers can't decide what is going to do.

delivered 2 radios back to their home here in the Southern Command area. 

Ed thanks for the RCA ad,

Brent what brand radio is that? Looks RCAish

Glad peoples surgeries went well. 

Well more later as time permits.

 

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Posted by gmpullman on Thursday, January 13, 2022 9:33 PM

 

I could use a little support here!

 

 rr16998 by George  Hamlin, on Flickr

Glad you liked it, MLC Yes

Thanks for the Killian's Kevin Beer  Beer  Beer

Cheers, Ed

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Posted by SeeYou190 on Thursday, January 13, 2022 10:04 PM

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Thanks for the Killian's Kevin 

Anytime Ed, I am glad you enjoyed.

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I guess on Young Sheldon tonight, 17 year old Georgie got together with a hot blonde 25 year old.

My phone lit up (again), with messages from friends and family saying THIS IS YOU! You are the subject of Young Sheldon!

This is the second time this season Young Sheldon has featured a plot line from my life. Do they owe me royalties or something? Maybe I just know too many people that watch Young Sheldon and also know too much about me.

Maybe when baby/baby was out in California she told too many stories about her dad to screenwriter friends.

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Posted by BATMAN on Thursday, January 13, 2022 10:12 PM

Dave, the info I got said it was from the Wellington County Archives. I looked it up and found this but did not have the time to poke around. I think it would be a great project and right up your alley.  am looking forward to the pics of your progress.Smile, Wink & Grin

https://www.wellington.ca/en/museum-and-archives.aspx 

MLC, the radio is a Viking which was the store brand for Eaton's Dept store. Eaton's was a nationwide Canadian Dept store that went caput years ago. The story has it my Dad had a friend that worked at Eaton's and during WWII there was a shortage of everything. My Dad got a call at work that Eaton's in downtown Winnipeg got three radios in and my Dad's friend held one for him. My Dad took off on his lunch hour to grab it with the blessing of his boss for taking an extended lunch considering the circumstances.

In the 1960s I plugged an old turntable into it and played my first Gordon Lightfoot album through it over and over again. So long ago. 

Ray, those outhouses remind me of a castle I visited somewhere once. The castle was on the ocean and the toilets (still in service) were a row of holes in a rock shelf. You looked down through the holes and it was a 200' drop into the ocean. Too far to hear the splash.Laugh I think it may have been in Scotland but I can't remember. Maybe the Balkans.

I was talking to someone a while ago about their trip to South America. They were telling me about this little town they visited and I said it looked like a great place to visit and maybe I will get there someday. At that point, my wife went and got a photo off the wall in a back room of the two of us in that town 26 years ago.Whistling It all blends together after a while. I loved traveling though. 

Back when I was still flying and working at the airport. I would just like to escape from the day sometimes. I could go rent a plane where I had learned to fly at Vancouver airport and would head North flying low through the valleys to Whistler and buzz the skiers and come back along the coast. I felt totally rejuvenated when I did that. If I had time to kill in the middle of the day, why not rent a plane for an hour or two. No better escape.

Heading North.

Pacific Coast Ranges - Wikipedia

Heading back to Vancouver.

The world is a beautiful place.

 

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Posted by hon30critter on Thursday, January 13, 2022 11:34 PM

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Dave, the info I got said it was from the Wellington County Archives. I looked it up and found this but did not have the time to poke around. I think it would be a great project and right up your alley.  am looking forward to the pics of your progress.

OH WOW! Talk about pressure!! Was that a steel toed boot that you used to kick my butt?!?

I couldn't find any more information in the Wellington County archives. I spent about an hour trying various search parameters but I couldn't find the plough.

I think I will model the snow plough as being coal fired only because one of the tenders I am looking at on eBay has such a beautiful coal load. If I can't get that particular tender it will at least have shown me what a realistic coal load should look like.

I will also have to buy a suitable freight car to use for the body of the plough. Everything I have is too modern for 1901.

Edit: A closer study of the plough shows that it is about four feet taller than a standard freight car. If you assume that they used a standard freight car door on the side, the additional height is pretty obvious. I'll have to check my styrene inventory to see if I have the proper car siding. I just ordered an Accurail double sheathed 36' box car. The sides won't fit but it will give me a decent roof to work with as well as the frame and undercarriage, and maybe I can use the doors. I'll have to change the trucks. I hope I haven't thrown out all my arch bar trucks.

I'll keep you posted.

Dave

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Posted by GMTRacing on Friday, January 14, 2022 6:09 AM

Good Morning All,

   Wow - halfway down the page this morning. Hope David is ok he's usually in just before I arrive. 

    You've been a talkative bunch. I'll try to catch up posts later. Just now I'd like a toasted bagel with cream cheese and a regular to go please. Too early for Killians Kevin.  Trying to get far enough down the tunnel to see the light at the end and hope it isn't an oncoming train.   Ciao, J.R.

Good to see that Mikes daughter came through surgery well and Henry as well. 

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Posted by NorthBrit on Friday, January 14, 2022 7:01 AM

Good afternoon Diners.  A large coffee and a blueberry muffin please,  Chloe.

I am fine J.R..   I have spent the entire morning playing indoor cricket.  Dawn says it is good I get a few hours away  to myself.

The World is a Beautful Place

Pacific Ocean  from Panama City

 

 Pacific Ocean by David Harrison, on Flickr

 

Back later.

 

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Posted by SeeYou190 on Friday, January 14, 2022 8:46 AM

Good morning everyone. Chloe, how about some scrambled eggs with melted cheddar and a large glass of unsweetened iced teas?

Today I have ahead of me digging about another 20 feet of footer trench and then pouring an awful lot of concrete.

I will check in tonight when I am completely worn out. Hopefully I can get this all done.

We had rains a couple of days ago, and part of the trench already dug needs to be cleand out.

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Posted by moelarrycurly4 on Friday, January 14, 2022 10:17 AM

A Viking would have been manufactured by Dominion Electrohome Industries, as you said for Eaton's Dept stores. They manufactured other private brands, like Simpson.

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Posted by York1 on Friday, January 14, 2022 10:52 AM

Good morning, everyone.  Bacon, eggs, and black coffee, please.

This will be a good day to stay inside and do layout work.  It's cold, windy, and snow/rain mixture, then all snow later today.

Kevin, I'd offer to help you dig, but luckily I live too far away.

I don't know for sure, but I think this was a Burlington structure in Iowa:

 

Have a good day, everyone.

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Posted by BATMAN on Friday, January 14, 2022 1:47 PM

Good morning from sunnyville, I already went out for a short walk.

Normally I sleep 5 to 6 hours tops, last night I slept almost 9 hours and woke up sick. I have not been out in over a week and my covid positive son and his covid positive GF were the last outsiders to visit on Sunday and were at their most contagious, they tested positive yesterday. So we will assume it is covid as we have the same symptoms. That means I have to go on the wagon, meaning no strenuous workout. My tested VO2max rate is rated as superior which was higher than excellent so I have done all I can to load my quiver to fight covid. I actually feel fine, just slightly achy with a runny nose.

Kevin, watch those electrolytes and don't over do it out in the yard today. We have called an ambulance more than once for weekend warriors that suffered electrolyte imbalances.

https://www.healthline.com/health/food-nutrition/how-to-prevent-an-electrolyte-imbalance#TOC_TITLE_HDR_1 

 

Dave, looking at the plow it looks like most angles are pretty straightforward cuts. I am going to see if I can come up with more pics later. I have a family member that has better luck than I when it comes to searching for things on the WWW. He says it is all about how you ask. He was a senior investigator with the RCMP and has many tricks up his sleeve.Laugh

MLC, that radio being an Electrohome makes sense as I remember Eatons sold Electrohomes. My Grandmother lived in a suite in our new house when we moved from Winnipeg and I remember going to Eatons and her buying an Electrhome colour TV. I spent all my time watching her TV with her after that as a young kid. The biggest thing for me was watching hockey and seeing the true colour of the Montreal Canadians jerseys. Also Batman and Robins outfits.Laugh

David, do you have a preference as to the Atlantic or Pacific in the middle latitudes?

This blowdown shield would make an interesting trackside structure.

 

I guess we need to isolate now, not that we were going out anyway. It's trains and guitars and long walks through the woodland for five days. Hmmm, just the same as any other day.Laugh We can go for months on our food supply.

All the best to all.

 

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Posted by NorthBrit on Friday, January 14, 2022 2:01 PM

Good evening Diners.   Brunhilda, I'll have a bottle of  Irish Red Kevin has left.  It will go with the burger and wedges I have cooked.  Thanks Kevin.

I played indoor cricket this morning.  Great fun.  In the train room this afternoon.  Even greater fun.

 

A picture I have on  the wall in my train room.  North British Railway  Class D40  'Ellangowan'  in LNER livery.  Photograph taken in the 1930s.   'Ellangowan' is passing near Chipchase Castle on her way to either Hawick or Edinburgh.  The railway line is the former North British Railway's  Border Counties Railway.  I used to live about four miles away from where this photograph was taken  and have passed it many times  on my travels.  

 

Although the picture is 80 something years old and rather grainy,  the wire to post fencing can be seen.  Common on NBR lines.   The  long, overgrown grass  this side of the fence  to the road that passes.   The other side of the tracks trees border the scene.  The train has passed under a road bridge and can just be seen on the right.

 

 NBR  D30 by David Harrison, on Flickr

 

David

 

 

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Posted by hon30critter on Friday, January 14, 2022 2:25 PM

BATMAN
Dave, looking at the plow it looks like most angles are pretty straightforward cuts. I am going to see if I can come up with more pics later. I have a family member that has better luck than I when it comes to searching for things on the WWW. He says it is all about how you ask. He was a senior investigator with the RCMP and has many tricks up his sleeve.

Hi Brent,

I would appreciate any help you and your family member can offer.

I agree that the body of the plough and the vertical/horizontal blades should be easy to model. I think the trickiest part will be getting the rotating blades correct.

Dave

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Posted by Attuvian1 on Friday, January 14, 2022 2:32 PM

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BATMAN
 
Attuvian1
Brent, One of our local LHSs has an untarnished and unpainted Overland Model 2-200 (OMI #3144) with the similar high plow.  On sale in their consignment display case two days ago.  Can't recall what they were asking for it.  Let me know if you're at all intersted and want a picture. John

Thanks, John, I have been looking at more and more prototype photos of CP Jordan spreaders and they had several different types through the years, I even saw one that looked a lot like the Walthers one. I think I will just keep hunting locally as the train shows tend to always have a few though for some reason they always seem to have a little damage to them. On occasion, the local train shop will get one but they tend to be priced higher than what Brass Trains ask for them. Any idea what they want for the one near you?

 

Brent,

Please send me a PM.

John

 
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Posted by BATMAN on Friday, January 14, 2022 2:39 PM

hon30critter
I think the trickiest part will be getting the rotating blades correct.

A 3D printer could really help out with the blades. There used to be a member on here called David Beddard, he has a FB page all about 3D design and printing, he has done some amazing designs and models.

My wife and kids were going to buy me a 3D printer for Christmas but could not get the model I wanted due to supply chain issues so I never got it. Maybe someone on here could whip you up some blades.

There is a lot of online 3D file-swapping going on in the MRR community, I would like to start being a part of that as there are so many cool things being done.

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Posted by BATMAN on Friday, January 14, 2022 2:50 PM

A friend of mine is out this way and asked on FB if he could drop by for coffee, said he would bring Tims.

I posted this, he understood and got it instantly.Laugh

 

Image of Do not approach Earth.

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Posted by BATMAN on Friday, January 14, 2022 3:07 PM

Attuvian1
There's a PM for you on Big Blue Trains, though it's from . . . .   Pressin' my luck here,    John

Thanks, John, I'll check it out.

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Posted by hon30critter on Friday, January 14, 2022 4:03 PM

"BATMAN - A 3D printer could really help out with the blades."

Hi Brent,

I think that 3D printing is great for those things that require a high level of detail, like a set of welding torches for example, but I'd rather make the blades by hand just for the pleasure of accomplishing the task.

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Posted by BATMAN on Friday, January 14, 2022 4:13 PM

hon30critter
but I'd rather make the blades by hand just for the pleasure of accomplishing the task.

I understand completely Dave as I feel the same way. I had another look at the ideal snowplow blade and it was not quite as involved as I was thinking.

This blade looks like a little more skill would be required with all the curves. Maybe you can put it on the docket for when you finish the Ideal plow.Laugh

 

 

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Posted by BATMAN on Friday, January 14, 2022 4:26 PM

hon30critter
I think the trickiest part will be getting the rotating blades correct.

Are you thinking of having the blades spin? A small motor with a rubber band drive could work as there would be little resistance to stretch the rubber band.

Brent

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Posted by Lazers on Friday, January 14, 2022 4:43 PM

NorthBrit
The railway line is the former North British Railway's  Border Counties Railway.  I used to live about four miles away from where this photograph was taken  and have passed it many times  on my travels.  

Hi David,

 

 
 
(I couldn't copy the second https, but you will find it)

I just found these two vids of British Railways, North Eastern Region, with 3 locations where I have lived. I especially loved Teesside, with all it's Industry, Chemicals, Steel, Oil, smoke and of course Railways.

The footage is pure 'Brit True-Grit'. I don't know how many fellow forum members might smile at the way we were back then in 1960's Britain? Private cars were a luxury, let alone a grainy, black & white 8mm Cine-film camera.

Thanks for the drink Kevin, Friday & Saturday evening is always when I allow myself a bottle. Cheers, Paul

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Posted by gmpullman on Friday, January 14, 2022 9:11 PM

    — fall splendor:

 Fall along the Flathead by Mike Danneman, on Flickr

Cheers, Ed

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Posted by NorthBrit on Saturday, January 15, 2022 6:09 AM

Good morning Diners.  A coffee on the go please, Zoe.

Brent.  We must have posted about the same time, so missed your post.   Atlantic or Pacific I have no reference for the best.  Just to be on board a ship is our dream vacation.

(Paul) Lazers.  Thanks for the link regarding North East Railways.  They brought back memories watching a empty coal train near High Pit, Cramlington (around 1950).  It was going really slow.  The trackwork mst have been poor as wagons kept derailing and the fireman going to the offending wagons and lifting them back on the rails.  The overgrown area where Nature was winning I remember the most.  

 

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Posted by GMTRacing on Saturday, January 15, 2022 6:52 AM

Good Morning All,

   David - oddly enough after 4 years below decks I have no desire to ride ships any more. The occasional Ferry is just enough thank you.

    0F this morning and the wind chill is very chilly indeed. Cuts right through. Gov't work today in the shop so tidy up and side projects. We've gotten busy enough with the parts fabrication end of things that we've roped someone into coming in just to weld up wishbones so we can fulfil orders in a more timely manner. The fabicator and welder actually beat me in this morning.

   Paul - Thanks for the videos you posted. I was interested to see the locomotives running reversed. On some it made sense with the glassed in cabs but others with the large coal bins on the tenders must have been a complete sod to deal with. I of course also love the cars few though they were. The first film maker must have been fairly high up the ranks at his job to swing the price of a Ford Cortina. Mum sitting in the back and junior swinging on the gates. Must have been persuasive too if he shot the footage from the cab. 

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       Here's my coffee and off I go.  Ciao, J.R.

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Posted by hon30critter on Saturday, January 15, 2022 8:14 AM

BATMAN
This blade looks like a little more skill would be required with all the curves. Maybe you can put it on the docket for when you finish the Ideal plow.

Hi Brent,

The corkscrew blade would be easy! All you need to do is find an appropriately sized seashell and grind off the outside! Not!!Smile, Wink & GrinLaughLaugh

That thing looks so flimsy I think it would fold up the first time it hit a block of ice. It would definitely be a suitable candidate for 3D printing if you could figure out the geometry.

Dave

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Posted by hon30critter on Saturday, January 15, 2022 8:23 AM

Dianne and I went looking for snowy owls again yesterday and saw two! The first was way off in the distance so we didn't get a very good view.

The second one was a perfect lesson in bird watching. We had stopped to search a large field. We were focussing our search on the distant fence line but there was nothing there. As we started to drive on, Dianne happened to look up and here was a snowy owl sitting on top of a telephone pole less than 100' from us. It had probably been watching us the whole time! Always watch the tops of the poles!

Bitter cold here last night. Minus 32 C with the wind chill!

Cheers!!

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Posted by howmus on Saturday, January 15, 2022 2:26 PM

Afternoon Folks!

I have been busy for the last couple hours creating a Award Certificate for our City Manager who is leaving to be an executive of another nearby entity.  Several groups have already sent their thanks and best wishes and the MLK committee (I am treasurer and guy who creates documents and stuff) will be presenting her the certificate this Monday, if the blizzard which is supposedly coming is light enough that we all don't freeze.  It will be held outside again this year.  I am supposedly setting up my small sound system to use, but that might not happen if we get the full 14" predicted and it starts blowing around......  Currently 8*F or -13°C .  Yep that sounds colder....  I am getting to the age where the cold really bothers me.  Normal morning temperature for me is about 97.2F.  I think my days of camping out on the ice of a lake at -10°F with a -30° wind chill factor are past......Sigh

Luckily the neighborhood redneck is all ready to plow in my Tesla I think...

Actually it will be the City of Geneva that will likely put a 3' drift at the end of my driveway about 15 minutes before I have to leave for the events.....

All the news is predicting major gloom and doom so it may not be too bad. ConfusedWhistling

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Posted by hon30critter on Saturday, January 15, 2022 2:57 PM

BATMAN
Are you thinking of having the blades spin? A small motor with a rubber band drive could work as there would be little resistance to stretch the rubber band.

Hi Brent,

It would be nice if the blades were able to spin. The challenge would be to get them balanced properly given that they will be scratchbuilt.

I think I have figured out how to make the center hubs of the blades using 3/4"  or 1" copper pipe caps (whichever looks better), and if I can find the right size, a couple of cheap six spoke RC car wheels. I will make the final blades out of brass but I will use card stock to create the templates.

I've got lots of car siding and brass sheet, rivet decals etc. etc. I'm going to wait until the Accurail 36' box car is delivered before deciding on any final dimensions.

Dave

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