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Having a hobby (like this one) reduces suicide in Older Adults-

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Posted by BATMAN on Monday, January 13, 2020 12:01 PM

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As a pastor a couple of observations. Time with nothing to do with many people induces worry. I think this is magnified in the case of retirement- a lot of folks go from being busy to doing nothing.

That is a very good observation. Worry/stress is really bad for your health so get back to work even if you work for free, it's called volunteering. You will be much healthier for it and meet some great people along the way.

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Posted by blabride on Monday, January 13, 2020 1:03 PM

Do what you love doing and that includes work,

This is a big concern of mine about retirement. As the Jews say "Work makes life sweet", this is something I learned very early in life. There is nothing more special than the two week break for teachers during the holidays after a particulary tough semester. I amd worried I will lose that Euphoric feeling in retirement. Thank goodness for substitute teaching which I will do at least twice a week as long as my health lets me.

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Posted by BATMAN on Monday, January 13, 2020 1:30 PM

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Thank goodness for substitute teaching which I will do at least twice a week as long as my health lets me.

That's good to hear.

I have two life long friends that both were band/drama teachers now retired. The did some substitute teaching after they retired but have both moved into the movie/TV biz big time doing a little acting but mostly working with children in helping them rehearse for there roles in film. They got into it as just something to try as the movie industry is screaming for people. They fell headlong into the deep end and are loving every minute of it and don't know what to do with all the money they are making.Laugh

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Posted by selector on Monday, January 13, 2020 1:49 PM

Some widsom from people who lived long before I came along:

Qui non proficit deficit.  "Who does not advance falls behind."  You have to plod.  Roots grow out of your soles if you stop plodding.

"It is in the giving that you receive."  I hope Paul won't mind my saying so, but I have to disagree with his statement that "...there's no payback..." when volunteering.  The human is very complex and finds 'compensation' many ways.  Just at the basic level of physiology, one produces endorphins when one does something akin to truly altruistic behaviours...something for someone else where you stand to gain nothing concrete.  IOW, volunteering has intrinsic value because it is its own reward. 

"When your body wears out, where will you live?"  'Nuff said.

One needn't join a team, take up running, spend money on George Carlin's bane (he called it 'stuff')...just get on some decent walking shoes and do what they were meant for!  I go out for a pretty stiff 10km walk several times each week.  It's great to get you attuned to your own environment and neighbourhood, you see things, you meet others doing the same thing.

Read.  I mean some difficult reading.  Something like the Peloponnesian Wars by Thucidides, or Dante's Divine Comedy.  How about The Illiad?  These are masterworks so outstanding that to go to one's death without ever having attempted a good solid, honest, run at them is, I think, a tragedy all by itself.  It is when doing things that are difficult that we begin to learn about ourselves.

I'll end with Socrates, whom I believe said something like the following:

"It is the duty of every man to keep himself physically strong and ready to serve his country at a moment's notice. The requirements of citizenship demand it likewise.  How dangerous it would be for a nation of ill-trained youth in times of war or danger.  Finally, what a disgrace it would be for a man to grow old without ever seeing the strength and beauty of which his body is capable." Socrates could have said the same about one's mind.  When did you decide to stop learning?

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Posted by IRONROOSTER on Monday, January 13, 2020 3:05 PM

selector
I hope Paul won't mind my saying so, but I have to disagree with his statement that "...there's no payback..." when volunteering.

Uh, what I actually said is there is no paycheck. As you say volunteering carries it's own reward other than financial.  I mention the paycheck only because some folks only feel what they are doing has worth if they are getting paid for it - for them volunteering may not be satisfying.

As I noted later on, my wife found volunteering in retirement as an NP very rewarding.  Personally, I have found the volunteering I have done during my life to be very rewarding in and of itself.

Paul

 

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Posted by MisterBeasley on Monday, January 13, 2020 9:23 PM

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I used to say the model railroading was the only thing I could fully control, in that my trains did exactly what I wanted them to do.  Of course, that was before DCC.  

The secret to Eternal Life is not to die until you understand everything there is to know about DCC.

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Posted by selector on Tuesday, January 14, 2020 1:02 AM

Sorry, Paul.  And thanks for coming back and correcting me.

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Posted by saronaterry on Tuesday, January 14, 2020 6:50 PM

I know that when the Mrs. (with the Masters in physchology) tells me that I need to go "play trains", I go.

She knows me.

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Posted by kasskaboose on Thursday, January 16, 2020 8:55 AM

Yes, I get why some get so frustrated that they consider calling it quits.  This hobby encourages creativity.  Talking to others also does that and you engage in therapy to minimize the frustrations.

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Posted by doctorwayne on Friday, January 17, 2020 12:40 AM

blabride
...So any advice from you older more experienced model railroader's is very welcome. Please keep the stories coming.

My only advice would be to not get older.

Canalligators
No, the report does not say that the hobby activity reduces suicides. It says that there is a correlation. The study specifically says, "Therefore, the analyses do not reveal a real causal effect, but rather a correlation between type of social contact available and leisure activities." So you don't know if hobbies are the cause of reduced suicides, or the kind of people who are not inclined to suicide are also interested in hobbies....

In this house, there are days when all I do is hobby-related stuff, and it seems to me that my hobby may be sowing seeds of mariticide in SWMBO. 

If my posts come to an abrupt end, well it's been fun. Smile, Wink & Grin

Oh, and be here on garbage day, 'cause it'll all be at the roadside.

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Posted by BRAKIE on Friday, January 17, 2020 9:13 AM

blabride
So any advice from you older more experienced model railroader's is very welcome. Please keep the stories coming. Steve B

Steve, One thing I've learn if you keep your mind "young" and your body will follow. Old folks here sit around like zombies getting older I on the other hand play video games on my PS4 and detail my Athearn engines this keeps my mind busy and not decaying into a "old man" in mind and body though I'll soon be 72..

Truth be told I suspect they will find me dead at my work desk or ISL  with throttle in hand while cars and locomotive are found laying on the floor.. 

 

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Posted by dknelson on Friday, January 17, 2020 9:32 AM

MisterBeasley
       

The secret to Eternal Life is not to die until you understand everything there is to know about DCC. 

As a wise man once said while teaching Logic 101 to undergraduates, "Nothing is better than Eternal Life."  

"A hamburger is better than nothing."  

"Therefore, a hamburger is better than Eternal Life."

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