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Posted by Heartland Division CB&Q on Tuesday, April 2, 2019 3:58 PM

Howdy ..... 

Steve O. ..... Happy Birthday, young man, and thank you for the cake. I'll have a slice, please. Happy B-Day

Frank .... Thanks for posting the video of the lift bridge. Interestingly, it was raised to clear the masts of boats not using their sails. 

Below is the Twin City Zephyr with E5AB in northern Illinois on its way to Chicago. 

 

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Posted by mbinsewi on Tuesday, April 2, 2019 4:06 PM

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Judy thinks the last time we went to Chicago was before our phones took pictures

OMG!!!  You mean there was such a time???  Surprise

I've got a couple boxes full of pics from the "old days" when you took the rolls to the drug store, and they always had special promos where you get 2 for 1.

Some of the old Instamatic ( that thin little camera) pics don't do well when you try to save and show them as scanned images.

I forgot about that bridge.  Really interesting how the huge sheaves at the top are enclosed!  It looks.......different?

Thanks for the info Rich !

Steve O, have a happy b day, thanks for cake, and since it's going to be Wed., take the rest of week off, tell'em I said it was OK. Whistling

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Posted by RideOnRoad on Tuesday, April 2, 2019 4:07 PM

Steven Otte
Just so you know, I'll be off tomorrow, celebrating my birthday. I'll be 54. . .

Enjoy the day off. Just think, one more year and you can order off the of the back page of the Denny's menu.

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Posted by Steven Otte on Tuesday, April 2, 2019 4:25 PM

RideOnRoad

Enjoy the day off. Just think, one more year and you can order off the of the back page of the Denny's menu.

 
Not that great of an incentive. I'm more interested in senior prices at the movie theater when I reach 60. AARP already wants me, though. Sad

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Posted by Track fiddler on Tuesday, April 2, 2019 4:36 PM

Happy birthday Steve-O.  Enjoy your day tomorrow and except another year.  Remember the recent video posted by Brent here though.  Don't let the old man inLaugh

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Posted by BigDaddy on Tuesday, April 2, 2019 5:54 PM

Happy birthday Steve.  54's a lot better than 60.  That's brings a whole new decade in play.  Then the year you are eligible for Medicare, your phone will ring non-stop from insurance agents (making calls illegal, not only because of the DNC list, but it's illegal to cold call and sell Medicare supplemental.

[Political comments deleted by admin]

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Posted by Track fiddler on Tuesday, April 2, 2019 6:59 PM

Well   I can't find my Chicago photos, so I'm going to have to contribute to this thread in some other way.  I'll go with History. 

Navy Pier in Chicago is called Navy Pier because she docked the USS Wolverine and her sister ship USS Sable during WW2, known as the freshwater flat tops.  These two aircraft carriers were re-constructed from retired luxury liners of Lake Erie, purchase by the US government to be used for flight training by the US Navy.

The USS Wolverine was modified from the Seeandbee.  The whole top of the ship was cut off above the haul and a wooden flight deck was constructed at a length of 500 feet, 250 feet shorter than an ocean aircraft carrier.

The USS Sable was converted from the Great Buffalo, a 518 ft paddle wheel liner.  This deck was constructed of steel.  Both ships fueled by coal, unlike fuel-oil burning vessels of ocean aircraft carriers.

These two Naval training ships were known as the Corn-Belt Fleet, docked in the windy city (Chicago) Navy Pier.  A vast part of Lake Michigan many times was not windy enough.  A good tailwind for landing was needed as these vessels were shorter.  A good head wind was needed as well for takeoffs.  Hellcats, Corsairs and Avengers were used in these training procedures in not so ideal conditions.

At times flight training was delayed.  Flight training was dangerous on these vessels but did prepare the Navel Aviators for the unstable wave fluctuating decks of ocean carriers.

Flight training was 7 days a week of a hundred flyers per day.  Appx. 1800 Flyers were trained before the war ended.  Appx. 11600 takeoffs and landings for each took place.  Fewer than 300 planes were lost in training,  a casualty lightly stated.

This History founded Navy Pier,  now a fun family amusement park.

TF

 

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Posted by Steven Otte on Tuesday, April 2, 2019 7:03 PM

BigDaddy

Happy birthday Steve.  54's a lot better than 60.  That's brings a whole new decade in play.  Then the year you are eligible for Medicare, your phone will ring non-stop from insurance agents (making calls illegal, not only because of the DNC list, but it's illegal to cold call and sell Medicare supplemental.

[Political comments deleted by admin]

BigDaddy, we have a discussion about a dust-up caused by someone talking about politics, then I say I'm taking a day off, and the first thing you do is post five paragraphs about politics?! Did you think just because it's my birthday that the rules don't apply? Or did you just think I wouldn't be paying attention and you could slip something past me?

Either way, you were wrong. Angry

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Posted by herrinchoker on Tuesday, April 2, 2019 7:07 PM

At the end of last month, in a post, I stated that I had tried to contact Ulrich by phone, and E-mail and that I had recieved no response. After that post everything went South. I am concerned for his safety after he stated his name was found on an Antifa list.

My concern is that I as well, have been threatened, along with my deceased wife, and have had threats made to my children. The primary difference between my situation and Ulrich's is that I was in law enforcement, armed, and when I spoke with those involved violated a plethra of State and Federal laws. This came after two men tried to get into my wife's car at a stoplight. She was assisted by Mssrs. Smith and Wesson, they did not get into the car. I still carry to this day, almost 14 years after leaving the Department. Am I afraid, you ask, no-I carry, Parinoid-perhaps, but I have earned that right.

Having a fairly good idea of Some of what Ulrich is going through, and the situation where he lives, causes concern for me.

Who among us in the last six months has had their dwelling broken into, threatened with a knife at a traffic intersection, or been singled out for retrabution?

It is unfortuniate that there is no commonality between societies as to what is permissable, and what is not, when it comes to discourse.

All I did to get myself into that situation was develop the documentation to take down a drug cartel in Chicago. The final count, according to a DEA agent I worked with, was 26. This included two federal judges, and numerous members of the bar, and medical profession. Mill Island drug bust, 1977. 

Henry

I wonder what the underlying factors are/ is, in the situation you described.

herrinchoker

 

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Posted by up831 on Tuesday, April 2, 2019 7:38 PM

Hi Diners,

Mr. Otte: Have a great day off, and thanks for moderating and keeping us all in line.  

My son and his family live along the UP (C&NW) line into the city.  My granddaughter perks up whenever she hears or sees a train, which are rather frequent there.  Looks like grandpa is going to have a modeling buddy in a few years.  Chicago has some very large classification yards with lots of activity.

i haven't had any luck trying to post pictures here, largely because I don't grind it out until I get it to work.  My posting time is limited.  But maybe ill get lucky.  

The loop got its name because of the elevated tracks that actually circle around the heart of downtown.  I suppose one could ride around it for hours.  At the same time, there are also subway tracks underground in the same area, but these go in and then back out.  

In fact Thursday I'll be going down to the Mart for a function.  With all the violence and robberies in the Mag Mile and nearby, I'm starting to be a little more concerned than I used to be.  Anyway, I'll be taking the subway in.  

Hello to everyone, and I hope everyone is OK, safe, and warm.

Less is more,...more or less!

Jim (with a nod to Mies Van Der Rohe)

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Posted by Track fiddler on Tuesday, April 2, 2019 7:46 PM

Have fun kids.

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Posted by maxman on Tuesday, April 2, 2019 8:34 PM

RideOnRoad
Just think, one more year and you can order off the of the back page of the Denny's menu.

I'm not eating anything I find on the back of anyone's menu.

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Posted by Heartland Division CB&Q on Tuesday, April 2, 2019 8:41 PM

Good evening .... 

Here is another photo of the Twin City Zephyr. ... The one has two E7A's . 

GARRY

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Posted by mbinsewi on Tuesday, April 2, 2019 8:44 PM

maxman
I'm not eating anything I find on the back of anyone's menu.

I agree, especially if it's still soft and messy. Whistling

I've never been in a Denny's, or a Golden Corral.  I don't plan on starting now.

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Posted by maxman on Tuesday, April 2, 2019 8:44 PM

Steven Otte
I'm more interested in senior prices at the movie theater when I reach 60. AARP already wants me, though.

I was going to respond that AARP somehow knew I was going to turn 50 before I did, and I used to get at least 1 mailing per month.  But I looked and it seems that people in their 20s and 30s can join and take advantage of discounts, including the movies you want to see:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/rogerma/2017/08/31/why-i-joined-aarp-at-age-35/#7db7b05e70f5.

But it turns out that those mailings were a lot more pleasureable then the monthly mailings I get now from the Green Burial Society and the "some like it hot" cremation society.

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Posted by mbinsewi on Tuesday, April 2, 2019 8:51 PM

AARP is relentless.  They'll keep sending you envelopes full of junk, never ending, no matter how many times you call, and ask to be removed.

Must be where all the paying "members" money goes.  Printing, producing, and mailing junk.

They have nothing I need.  The building trades unions I belong to, (still as a retired member) and retired from, have my, and my wifes insurance needs covered to the end of time.

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Posted by maxman on Tuesday, April 2, 2019 9:16 PM

mbinsewi
The building trades unions I belong to, (still as a retired member) and retired from, have my, and my wifes insurance needs covered to the end of time.

Or until 7734 freezes over, the end of time, or you die, which ever happens first?Whistling

mbinsewi
AARP is relentless. They'll keep sending you envelopes full of junk, never ending, no matter how many times you call, and ask to be removed.

Well, yes, there is that.  I just put that stuff in recycle.  And I don't believe that there is any place to call. It even shows up in an envelope included with the daily paper weekly grocery ad inserts.  I think it is the weekly equivalent to email spam.

On the other hand, there are sometimes discounts on things I can use that make the yearly membership worthwhile.

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Posted by cudaken on Tuesday, April 2, 2019 10:42 PM

 Eveing Diners

 Flo, give the gang and I a Beer please and leave a stein outside for Ulrich.

 Steve O Happy B-Day

 Henry, you feeling OK? Seems you stepped on something in your last post? Whistling

 Jan When you talked about a Chopper Gun and Fiberglass was that for repairing a leaking roof or insulation for the attaic?

 Far as Ulrich I do worry about his lack of health, and that is the main thing I am worried about. On the other hand I think it kind of cruel not to keep in touch with us. It was a couple years ago he need $800.00 glasses he could not afford. Folks here got together (I did not have funds to contribute that time arround) and got the needed funds for him.

 Around 8 years ago Ulrich had no layout just a dream to bulid a Japanese N Scale point to point layout. My self, Gary, Berry and others got togather around $300.00 and I bought the Kato Track from my LHS and mailed it to Ulrich.

 So Ulrich quite punishing the folks here that care about you and Petra. You know the rules of the site, you where a Moderator!

 Later, Ken

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Posted by herrinchoker on Wednesday, April 3, 2019 2:43 AM

Ken,

The chopper gun applies chopped mat, and resin to the roof primarily for protection from hail damage, but in the application it also seals the roof so that it does not leak.  Same idea as building a fiberglass boat by spraying the mat into a mold---just on your roof ......

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Posted by zstripe on Wednesday, April 3, 2019 2:56 AM

First off......Happy B-Day Steve O.......You are 2yrs. older than My Daughter and She does not like being reminded of Her Birthday...LOL.

I noticed over the yrs. when people discuss Chicago and their visits......no one mentions Riverview Park? I'm wondering if they even knew it existed? I for one was there probably 10 or more times over the yrs. When it was torn down in 1967 I was in Vietnam........time really flies by.

A little video about the park to watch and pay attention to one roller coaster ride that resembled the Burlington Zephyr. I wonder if You knew that Garry?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WycHy_ZeHaI

Take Care, All, Big Smile

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Posted by richhotrain on Wednesday, April 3, 2019 4:47 AM

zstripe

I noticed over the yrs. when people discuss Chicago and their visits......no one mentions Riverview Park? I'm wondering if they even knew it existed? 

Frank, if you want to confirm that someone actually grew up in Chicago, ask him two questions about Riverview. At what street intersection was it located, and what are the bobs?

Rich

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Posted by zstripe on Wednesday, April 3, 2019 5:09 AM

Rich,

Along with ''Smokey Joe's'', Maxwell St., South Water Market......days gone by! Too fast..

How many large city's had six major Railroad Stations?

http://www.dhke.com/CRJ/station.html

Only Chicago as far as I can remember.

Take Care! Big Smile

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Posted by mbinsewi on Wednesday, April 3, 2019 6:36 AM

Great video Frank!  I had the former site on Google maps and satalite view, while I watched it.  Very cool!

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Posted by SeeYou190 on Wednesday, April 3, 2019 6:51 AM

Steven Otte
I'll be 54, which may make me seem like a spring chicken by model railroader standards,

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I turned 51 this year, I feel old when I am at work. Then I go to a model railroad event I feel young again!

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Steven Otte
I'm more interested in senior prices at the movie theater when I reach 60. AARP already wants me, though.

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I want the discount movie tickets too! I also want to be able to ride public transportation for 25 cents.

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My wife and I joined AARP last year.

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mbinsewi
I've never been in a Denny's, or a Golden Corral

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Dennys is nothing like Golden Corral. Two entirely different things. Denny's is just a basic diner/restaurant with American style eats. Not bad, not good, but consistent and you know what to expect. Sometimes when travelling a Dennys is good to find.

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Posted by GMTRacing on Wednesday, April 3, 2019 7:59 AM

Good Morning All,

    A balmy 38F this morning and the sun was trying to shine through the cloud cover. Not much to report on this end. My knee was acting up so much that I spent most of the evening trying to limber it back up. Getting old can be a pain.

   Happy B-Day Steve O and thanks for all you do for us here. Oh and the cake was delish. 

   The team eats at Dennys often as it is open when we need to eat and get to the track usually by 7am. One of my car chiefs likes Waffle House but I refuse to eat there. Most places we try to find a local diner just for variety. Some of the staples have become The Village Inn in Sebring, Fla or Paul Reveres in Lexington, Oh. Can't remember the name of the spot in Elkhart, Wi but it is a regular stop as well. 

   Back to the shop to pick up tools.   Best, J.R.

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Posted by gmpullman on Wednesday, April 3, 2019 8:46 AM

Good Morning —

 CNW_400_Chi by Edmund, on Flickr

Cold but sunny here in NE Ohio. Still snow on the ground in the shadows.

Enjoy the day,

Cheers, Ed

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Posted by Heartland Division CB&Q on Wednesday, April 3, 2019 8:49 AM

 

Good morning .... 

Frank .... Thanks for the video of Riverview Park. It brings back memories. I remember going there with friends when I was a kid. To get there, we took the Burlington commuter train into Chicago. We got off at Western Avenue and rode a CTA bus to Riverview. .... I did some of the rides in the video. The Bobs was a very rough roller coaster. The Wild Mouse Ride was fun. The parachute drop was scary expecially at the top at the moment it would release and begin its descent.

 Below is a photo of the combined Empire Builder and North Coast Limited on the triple track CB&Q line near Chicago. 

GARRY

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Posted by BroadwayLion on Wednesday, April 3, 2019 9:22 AM

Steven Otte
Not that great of an incentive. I'm more interested in senior prices at the movie theater when I reach 60. AARP already wants me, though. Sad

 

Oh, I'd not join AARP...  [content witheld due to political considerations].

 

LION quit the ANA (American Nurses Association) for same unmentionable consideraztions.

 

ROARING

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Posted by BroadwayLion on Wednesday, April 3, 2019 9:25 AM

GMTRacing
The team eats at Dennys often as it is open when we need to eat and get to the track usually by 7am. One of my car chiefs likes Waffle House but I refuse to eat there.

 

LION avoids Dennys. him likes waffles. Well, not Abbey waffles, Waffles need to be hot off the griddle or else thay are not tasty at all.

 

But we will have french toast for lunch today. LIONS like French Toast.

ROAR

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Here there be cats.                                LIONS with CAMERAS

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Posted by BroadwayLion on Wednesday, April 3, 2019 9:31 AM

zstripe
How many large city's had six major Railroad Stations?

 

NYC: NYP, GCT, St. George, Jamaica, 125th Street, Brooklyn (Atlantic Ave.)

 

NYC has more passenger railroads too:

LIRR, MNRR, SIRT, NJT, AMTK

 

ROARING

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Here there be cats.                                LIONS with CAMERAS

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