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Posted by dti406 on Wednesday, August 17, 2016 8:29 AM

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FR RY .... I recall see the DT&I freight cars when I lived near Detroit several years ago. They selected Easter egg colors for freight cars. It was mostly for 86' auto parts cars, and I recall being told the colors were picked out by the wife of the DT&I president. It did not take many years for rust to make them look ugly. 

Without asking Jim Hediger who has never mentioned who picked the colors, but the 86' Hi-Cubes were painted in three different colors to serve three different Ford stamping plants in the Detroit area. So the blue ones were to go to one plant, the green ones to another and the magenta to a third.  Crew would know they had a wrong car in the transfer if it was a different color. But after awhile the car assignments changed and any car would be at any plant.

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Posted by howmus on Wednesday, August 17, 2016 10:11 AM

Mornin' everyone!

Zoe, I'll have a short stack of buckwheat pancakes with blueberries and some real NYS Maple Syrup, a couple sausage links, and a pot of Marrakesh Express Dark Roast coffee to start the day.

It is currently 74°F outside under "partly" skies (sunny at the moment, but in the way of the Finger lakes, just wait a minute and it will change....) with a high this afternoon of 85°F.  We got about .1 inch of rain yesterady so I will not have to water the garden today....

Hope to finish the kitchen floor cleaning today....  I am feeling the effects of scrubbing on my hands and knees yesterday.  Want to get that done...  #1 priority.  Then I may spend some more time cleaning the train rooms.  I am just about out of WS Foilage mesh for making the trees, so I ordered another 15 packages (three different colors) which I hope should pretty much finish that section of the layout...  I'll take some photos later.  Kaplar Lumber should be sending out my order of scale lumber soon, I hope.

Quote for the day:

“I'll tell you a little secret about the Blues: it's not enough to know which notes to play, you have to know why they need to be played.” - George Carlin

Have a great one!

73

Ray Seneca Lake, Ontario, and Western R.R. (S.L.O.&W.) in HO

We'll get there sooner or later! 

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Posted by yougottawanta on Wednesday, August 17, 2016 12:21 PM

Lunch time

Hey all. Is it Monday all over ? This morning is not starting right. The carpentry company is not Performing their contract. Part of the deal is the MANAGE their installs and deliveries. I called them this morning and told them that the carpenters were not on site to swing trussses, had not prepared trusses and further more I shopuld NOT be calling them telling them this because we are paying them manage this and they should be telling me ! His response ! Well if they dont show up this evening then I will call them and see where they are !? WHAT ! That means another day of lost production. They are already FOUR WEEKS BEHIND ! I called his boss and we got into a very heated "discussion" upon which he hung up on me ! UNBELIEVABLE ! So now their crane is sitting on site at $300 an hour. No one here. I tried to help, but that horse wouldnt be lead to water. I am done with them. It can sit there all week for all I care.

Then I had to deal with the water utility ( I tell you the Mob missed this one, you talk about racket ! We pay to install ALL of the water lines, pump stations, water laterals even install their crocks and then we have to PAY them between 15k and 30k PER HOUSE for the "priviliedge" of them setting a water meter and turning water on in the pipes we install Angry and then they charge the home owners for the water every month from the pipes they shook out of us ) so anyway I call for them to install a meter on a certain house. Thier response. We already installed one there, pay again, and we will install another one there. WHAT ! They didnt install one in the first place because I DIDNT CALL FOR ONE YET ! Water company : Dont care pay again or you dont get your meter !AngrySoapBoxAngry   I tell you there is a special place in Devil for water companies ! Man I strongly dislike those crooks.

Howmus -  you need a house cleaner or a Mrs. Howmus to take care of stuff like that for you !

Ulrich - Hope it is not bad news. Pulling for you!

Garry LOL Winky ? Man that is tuff. I agree we should add that into the post first page.

ED - What is "sintering furnace " ?

FRRYKid - That is a shame. My grandparents have been gone many years. But I still have great memories of them. They were special people Smile

Johnboy - HI ! Man I am glad you popped in. Drop by more often! Thanks for the prayers for my dad.

Ken - Your package should arrive Saturday. I will send a PM of the tracking number.

Jim - Happy Birthday Cake if they had cherry pie I would send that !

Herrinchoker - I am sorry but I am still baffled. That is a large hole. Was water gushing in around his hand ? How did he not get his hand all cut up. I agree with someone who siad earlier "great stories" very fascinating life you have had.

Ricky W. - Thanks. Hey Vinnie is eyeing you [:)Whistling

Terry - Yea I would say that one is going to come back to bite you. I try to never argue with an inspector. I ask "questions" and try to lead them to the correct answer or flat out just give them proof from an engineer or Arch. If it is miner and doesnt cost a lot of money we just eat it and try to make him happy. I have only called one inspector boss in my 35 + years of being in this buisness. It always bite you if you argue.

ATSF - Oh. Then are you also going top have another caboose track for operations ?

To any who are just reading or havent posted yet - Hi,

Well gotta git back to w**k

TTYL

YGW

 

 

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Posted by gmpullman on Wednesday, August 17, 2016 12:46 PM

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so I won't kid you. ....

That's baaaaad! Ick!


 ED - What is "sintering furnace " ?

YGW,

In one example, Athearn locomotive wheels, a powdered metal alloy was pressed into a mold and then sintered to bind the metal particles into a solid shape.

One of the operations at the plant I worked in was powdered tungsten metallurgy.

We used powdered tungsten, formed it into a mold then pressed it using fluid at almost 40,000 psi in a pressure vessel made from a 16" naval gun from the USS Colorado (BB-45).

Once out of the press the "green" tungsten part is still somewhat fragile, like a sand castle, then it is "pre-sintered" to a certain density where it can be machined to a rough size, then in final sintering the part is run through a furnace at 1850° C (3,362°F) in a hydrogen atmosphere. After that the part can be final machined. By now there is so much cost involved that the process gets pretty expensive.

These parts became dies used in glass furnaces for extruding quartz glass tubing.

Pretty interesting stuff. 

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Posted by ATSFGuy on Wednesday, August 17, 2016 4:53 PM

Good Afternoon,

I'm a little sick, been in bed resting for most of the day.

YGW,

Regarding the caboose thing, I'm only purchasing a couple to use, like 9 roadnames to represent that type of caboose used by that particular road. This may seem wierd, but hey, it's my railroad and I'm in charge of what's there and what's not.  I already have 6 cabooses, need 3 more. If you have ideas for roadnames to use, let me know.

 

 

Going back to bed, might drop by later if all is well.

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Posted by cudaken on Wednesday, August 17, 2016 6:14 PM

 Afternoon Diners

 Flo, Ed and I will have a Beer please.

 Not a good day off, well I am a live for now.

 Health Front Sigh There is a chance I may lose a toe off the left foot now. Spent 5 hours at the VA being shot, stabbed, nuked, sphioned, bandaged, and drugged. Not a fun day. Toe next the big toe has became a Hammer Toe, toe. (kind of looks like a horn hook coupler) The tip is facing down and is rubbing and the wound will not heal, not a good thing. They X Rayed the toe, and cannot tell if the bone is infected or not. White blood cell count is normal so that is a good sign, but! They cannot be sure!  Need a bone scan to rule out a infection, that takes 4 hours? I sure hope I am not heading down the road Jeffery did.

 Car Front Bang Head One of the cars is sidelined (rip track) and looks like the other is heading that way. On the way home from the VA the check engine light came on, normally not a big deal. Then the A/C stopped working which is a big deal (none of the windows roll down) and my highway mpg when from 28 to 15? Stopped at Bob's my wrench and told hime what was happing. I am dropping it off Thursday. When I restarted the car, the check engine lite resat and the A/C started working again?

 The really sad part? I was hopping to get Sparkie The Rocket Dog eyes fixed. He no longer can see. Sparkie came from the American Eskimo Rescue a few years ago at age 10. Spent a lot of his life in shelters not loved. He is now 12 and I want him to beable to see his forever family. Breaks my heart everytime I see him staring at a wall. Other night he could not find his way to the bedroom. I had to carry him to bed. Sigh Having the cataracts removed will run about $2,000.00. One of the resons I did not buy a used car I liked a few weeks ago.

 Sparkie The Rocket Dog.

 

 His eyes now are pretty much solid white. Crying

 Train Front Ed, I hear the clicking some times, but sort of sound like a cracked gear on the F-7A. Either way, it runs smooth and pulls well! Far as the F-7B, you are a better model railroader than I Ed! Just changing the couplers has turned into a 2 hour project! How the heck did you do it?  Dang turcks keep getting the way. I have 1 coupler installed and all most had the other one installed, but the truck was rubbing the coupler box so I stopped.

 Far as the SD engines, well stripping them in my sleep, no. But my M1A, yes! M-16 I am sure I can still do that in the pitch of night!

 Later, Ken

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Posted by herrinchoker on Wednesday, August 17, 2016 8:00 PM

YGW,

The bilges were being prepped for epoxy paint. There was a raised section of rust under the intake used to pump the bilge out. The worker was using a scraper to lift the scale, when he shoved the blade through the dowzy metal, his hand also went through. Yes, water, very cold water, it was February, came in. This young fellow was in a very confined space under the bilge cat-walk,  and was momentarily stunned by what had hapened. (as well as cold and wet) I was working above him, and the flash thought I had was him jerking his hand out and either being severely cut, or having his hand get caught in the metal flaps. The damage control party used blocking to stop the flow, a patch was welded on underwater, and the ship was taken to the drydock BIW had in Portland Maine for permanent repairs. The yard had acquired six of an eight section drydock, (designed to repair battleships in the Pacific in WWII)  This was originally acquired for modifications that were made to larger destroyers as well as the FFGs,

Side note, during WWII, Bath Iron Works built more tonnage than the Japanese Navy had during the start of the war. We launched a ship every 17 days, and sent one down the Kennebec to war every 23 days. When we were building FFGs in one two year period there were nine tied up at the outfitting docks. We built them faster than the Navy could train crews to man them, and ended up building mock-ups of the fire room, auxillary machinery rooms 1&2 , and the CIC--these were barged up the St. Lawrence to Great Lakes to give them a head start on training. They were powered by two jet engines-same as on a 747- single shaft, driven by a Westinghouse gear. The gear could only handle 40% of the potential thrust from the engines. The propeller reversed like the prop on an aircraft, and could go from full flank ahead to a dead stop in about 700 feet.

When the Perry was built it only went through ONE test. I saw, (along with others of us who worked on her) footage of the first test that the Navy conducted with explosives. This was to determine weld integrity, hull bracing, etc. Somone screwed up, rather than being 600 feet from 1500 pounds of high explosive, it ended up directly over it. The top of the plume of water was about three times higher than the ship was long,(480 feet) the entire length of the ship was hidden in the base of the plume. Cameras located in the engine room showed the turbines being thrown to the end of the shock mounts, and then being slammed back down on the engine beds. The barrel of the 76 MM on the top deck waved like a flag in the wind. The shock curved the stabilizers on the turn of the bilge. The operating crew was placed back aboard, the engines fired up, and they drove her home. The Navy told BIW they did not need any more tests, just build them. When the Samuel B.Roberts hit a mine in 88, the engine room was taken out, if the blast had been at any other position I have no doubt that a patch would have been thrown on, and she would have been driven back to BIW to be fixed. (She did come back for further repairs)

The USS Laffey during WWII was hit with 3-500 pound bombs, and five Kamakazie aircraft and was able to bring her crew home--she was built by BIW as well.

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Posted by tcwright973 on Wednesday, August 17, 2016 8:30 PM

herrinchoker - You probably know this, the USS Laffey is still afloat & can be toured at Patriot's Point in Mt. Pleasant, South Carolina.

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Posted by herrinchoker on Wednesday, August 17, 2016 8:45 PM

tcwright973

I knew she was still around, just wasn't sure which coast. Dad was a sparks operator on a 4 stacker in 1920, she was Bath Built as well. He said that in the tin-can fleet the best ships to serve on were the ones built in Bath due to the quality.

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Posted by FRRYKid on Thursday, August 18, 2016 1:00 AM

yougottawanta

FRRYKid - That is a shame. My grandparents have been gone many years. But I still have great memories of them. They were special people Smile

Don't have many memories of my grandfather. But lots of my grandmother. As stated earlier, she paid for many of the older components on the railroad. (The first set of the overton cars being one of those. One of the first cabooses like the ones in the posted pics was paid for by her as well.)

She would also let me experiment with food. (Even when they didn't turn out. A rhubarb miilkshake being one of those flops.) Some of the odd food combos I come up with came from those experiments. On that subject, Flo, do you have any applesauce in the kitchen? If so, could you please put a can of it in the blender along with some vanilla ice cream and some cinnamon for me, please and thank you. (Apple Pie Shake {no milk in that mix})

There are times, even to this day, she comes into my memory and I miss her.

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Posted by yougottawanta on Thursday, August 18, 2016 7:05 AM

Quick stop Ken - Check your PM and see note in my earlier post to you

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Posted by Heartland Division CB&Q on Thursday, August 18, 2016 7:52 AM

Good morning ... 

I'll have coffee and a pecan roll, please.

Ken ... Sorry to learn Sparkie is blind. Must be difficult for him. 

Last night, I ran trains, and that is always fun. 

Happy Model Railroading. 

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, August 18, 2016 9:15 AM

Afternoon!

Our weather has changed and is now more on the hot % humid side again, making me feel bad. I have difficulties breathing when it is like that!

Ken - I am sorry to hear about Sparky´s blindness. Don´t know what else to say.

 

 

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Posted by yougottawanta on Thursday, August 18, 2016 11:11 AM

Lunch time. Things have calmed down today. Have 2 - elevator inspections, final inspections, Painters, deck builders, framers, Punch out guys, Plumbers etc... Wrote a long message to the carpentry supply/install company and layed out my frustration with a list of real issues that occured on site and made suggestions for improvements and what we need ( for them to honor their contract ) and requested a meeting.Hopefully this will improve site conditions...?

Ed -wrote  "We used powdered tungsten, formed it into a mold then pressed it using fluid at almost 40,000 psi in a pressure vessel made from a 16" naval gun from the USS Colorado (BB-45). Once out of the press the "green" tungsten part is still somewhat fragile, like a sand castle, then it is "pre-sintered" to a certain density where it can be machined to a rough size, then in final sintering the part is run through a furnace at 1850° C (3,362°F) in a hydrogen atmosphere. After that the part can be final machined. By now there is so much cost involved that the process gets pretty expensive." ---That is very interesting ! I would like to watch that prrcess some time.How do you obtain thathigh of a heat ?  How did they use the gun barrel ? I looked up the Colorado. Man she took a beating in WW2 !

Garry - What a cliff hanger ! What did you run ? Freight ? Passenger ? Just ran a loop ? Point tO point ? Steam, Diesal ?

Ulrich - I hope you feel better. Your usual chipper self is missed.

FRRYKid - You should enter some of your food creations in a food contest ! Some kid came up with ice coffe at Starbucks and now a lot of people enjoy it.

Herrinchoker - If I had been that guy in a tight space with ice cold water pouring in I would now be in a straight jacket in the mental ward ! How long before he got his hand out ? What is blocking ? They can weld under water ? How in the world is that done ? Isnt the welder using electric ? It has been my expierence not to combine the two ! Bad things happen on land ! That is really impressive - 17 days another ship - that is amazing.

Ken - Does it hurt much ? Be sure to read my messages below and check your PMs

ATSF - Hope you feel better.  I agree it is your RR and you can do what ever you want ! Big Smile that is part of the fun!

Tom -, Howmus, Jeremy, JaBear, Phil, DER, Rick, Reinhard ....hello to all and forgive me for all that I didnt add.

TTYL

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Posted by PM Railfan on Thursday, August 18, 2016 11:25 AM

Hello Railfans!

 

Just a drive by howdy. Nothing been going on round here except the humidity and the work thing. Cought another Union Pacific unit last night tucked in behind a southbound NS. Thats pretty much it.

 

Take care everyone!

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Posted by howmus on Thursday, August 18, 2016 12:06 PM

Afternoon folks!

Chloe, I'll have a banana, a raisin cinnimon bagle with creame cheese, and a bottle of Cherrybundy lite for lunch today.

I am in recovery mode from the kitchen floor cleaning of the last two days....  Floor sure does look nice though!  I probably shouldn't wait another decade before it gets cleaned this way again......  Just waiting to go to an appointment with my lawyer to get my will updated.  (Actually it will be a complete rewrite as my old one is well over 30 years old and most everything has changed since back then.)  When my wife died back 29 years ago, I always figured I would get the will updated if I remarried again.  That didn't happen and isn't likely to these days (nobody that I wanted, wanted me....).  Should stop and pick up Blackies new insulin at the pharmosy and maybe make a quick stop at the hobby shop while I am out as well.

Tonight is the Monthly Meeting of the R&GV RR museum, which during the summer amounts to a short info session and then some time out on the line.  As always, I will be working on the Erie Caboose as Car Host.

Looks like there will be about a dozen or so people attending the Fine and Practicle Arts Dept. Reunion at my house on the 27th.  That is a comfortable number and we can head inside if it decides to rain and storm (always a possibility with anything held at my house...).  I will be inviting the Physical Education teacher who moved in across the street  when I see him out and around.  He was friends with pretty much everyone in our dept. and one elderly gentleman who will be attending was a longtime Basketball Coach.  I know they would like to see each other again.

Best get some things done before the appointment.  Catch you all later!

73

Ray Seneca Lake, Ontario, and Western R.R. (S.L.O.&W.) in HO

We'll get there sooner or later! 

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Posted by herrinchoker on Thursday, August 18, 2016 12:39 PM

YGW.

As I recall we did not time the removal of his hand, probably no more than 10-15 seconds. To the young fellow involved it probably seemed like two lifetimes.

Blocking is carried on large ships to make emergency repairs-it usually consists of 2X4,6,8, &10, 4X4, 6,8, & 10, 6x6,8X8. It is used to shore up damaged bulkheads, split seams. Clothing, bedding, mattress, canvas, is also used to jamb into the opening, and held in place with the timbers.  On the King the damage crew used a pillow,covered with a section of 2X10, held with two wooden wedges placed under the bilge catwalk.

Underwater welding is nothing new, neither is using a burning torch underwater.

The hull is the ground, the diver wears insulated gloves, and a very careful proceedure is followed when this is being done. There is constant communiction with the control pannel operator so the welder does not get zapped. there is an emergency diver on standby -just in case-.

There are deep water divers who live underwater for a month at a time working on underwater pipelines, drill rigs, valves, at depths to 1200 feet breathing mixed gasses, heilium/O2 mix. They live in a submersible for that lenght of time. It takes many days for them to decompress, needless to say they are young, in good shape, and make lots of money.

I did some machine work on a reactor at our local power plant, the reactor was flooded with a super-saturated solution of Boron. The divers could not get closer that 8 feet from the reactor shield, due to the radiaton,  to take measurements for machine purposes. Special tools had been made for this, the tolerances I was given was +/- .001. I was machineing Nitronic-60, coated with Titanium Nitride. It was like machining glass. I used special carbide cutting tools that I ordered from the Britenback Company in Atlanta Ga. Two cuts and the tool was sent back to be reprocessed.

The divers liked working in the reactor pool because the water was warm. They were crazy.....................

The reactor shield was throwing 65,000 rads, were it unshielded in a field, by the time you were 1/2 mile from it you would be dead. The employees were limited by the NRC to accumulating 1500 rems per year, when I finished the job I had accumulated just over 1100 rems. 

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Posted by angelob6660 on Thursday, August 18, 2016 12:50 PM

Afternoon Diners,

I have a few busy days lately and reply. I'll put it a long story short.

First off my sister can no longer get an apartment because of bad debt and also my dad was also borrowing money from her. She will be moving back in. 

Second, We had a satellite dish problem for 2 weeks before the start of the Olympics. My dad situation was to hack the tree by the dish, which didn't work.

He was tired of the satellite status saying Error and attention. He called Dish Network about the problem. Then he hacked the other tree so the repair guy might need more coverage.

Turns out your dish server and satellite are discontinued products and they upgraded some years ago. And therefore we're getting a whole new upgrade this Friday.

Now your back yard by the wall is covered by 4 feet tall by 10 feet or so filled with branches. Its going to be pain when the free trash pick up comes.

My dad was planning to live in a retirement community but he can't, can't afford it. So we can repair the house. Don't know why he had over 20 years to do so or move into a new house. And now we're all stuck here for better or for worse.

Ulrich- Didn't you get that locomotive this year or last year? How many miles (hours) did play with it before ruining the insides.

Ken- Sorry about your dog. Your a good dog person. With good training he's be the greatest blind dog.

YGW- He assumes that since my dad is retiring he can completely lazy. And he knows that I can pushed around and cave in. 

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Posted by tcwright973 on Thursday, August 18, 2016 1:39 PM

herrinchoker - I would have included this photo last night, but I had some problems with Photobucket. Here is the USS Laffey in June, 2014. Behind her is the USS Yorktown. Patriot's Point was a great place to visit.

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Posted by RideOnRoad on Thursday, August 18, 2016 2:22 PM

Today's excitement: We have a skunk hiding out in a section of 8" irrrigation pipe in the backyard. Luckily we discovered him before he tagged the dogs. They were barking but, thankfully, the skunk's position in the pipe made it impossible for him to spray the dogs. The dogs are in the house now and we are trying to figure out how to chase away the skunk. (Killing the skunk is not an option.)

The first piece of the skirting arrive for my layout. I decided to buy one section to ensure it would work before investing in all of the skirting. The color is a little more green than expected, tough to tell from a small swatch, but it will work just fine. There is no way I could have done this for $20. Here are a picture. The piece is 3' wide, and 3' high. It has a 2" band of Velco along the back, but is currently being held up by a pair of clamps.

Skirting

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Posted by Heartland Division CB&Q on Thursday, August 18, 2016 4:23 PM

yougottawanta

Garry - What a cliff hanger ! What did you run ? Freight ? Passenger ? Just ran a loop ? Point tO point ? Steam, Diesal ?

TTYL

YGW

 

 

YGW. .... Yes ! .. Smile, Wink & Grin

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Posted by FRRYKid on Thursday, August 18, 2016 11:03 PM

Got myself into one of those "What do I do with this stuff now?" problems. I ordered some of the old Walthers Modulars parts from eBay. I didn't realize that I would need more components than I can get to properly assemble them (According to the instructions, I need a Wall Columns and Caps kit which is unavailable.) Additionally what I was intending to do with the kit will require some size bashing as a component is too short and too narrow. Wouldn't be the first time I've had to make lemonade from lemons.

(Edit: Just my luck. Top of two pages in a row. Tabs are on me again.)

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Posted by hon30critter on Thursday, August 18, 2016 11:23 PM

FRRYKid:

Are you working in HO or N? If your Modulars are N scale I might be able to help. I have a bunch of N scale Modulars partial kits which I can send you if you cover the postage.

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, August 19, 2016 1:53 AM

Good Morning!

It´s a beautiful morning and I am glad I can enjoy it!

About 18 years ago, I had my second heart attack - the big one, which nearly did it. On the rocky road to recovery, my doc told me then, that it was highly unlikely for me to see 60 candles on my birthday cake. He was wrong! Today´s my 60th birthday.

I should be happy, but I am not. For once, I know I live of borrowed time. Furthermore, the life Petra and I have is a life under the constant threat that we may not only lose the little we have. The overall situation is getting tighter day by day. We should have left this country a long time ago, but we don´t have the means to do that.

I try not to let that put me down, but I don´t always succeed.

There won´t be a birthday party today, nor on the weekend. My son and his GF are on a vacation trip and the few remaining friends are also not available.

We will enjoy a  nice dinner, as Petra will be preparing my favorite food. And, of course, a slice of my birthday cake - without candles!

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Posted by hon30critter on Friday, August 19, 2016 2:08 AM

Happy Birthday Ulrich!

Happy B-DayCakeDrinks or Coffee or BeerDinner

Dave

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Posted by "JaBear" on Friday, August 19, 2016 3:10 AM

FRRYKid
(Edit: Just my luck. Top of two pages in a row. Tabs are on me again.)

Gidday Chloe, seeing FRRYKid has got the tab could I please have the honey King Prawn starter followed by a huge medium rare T bone, onion, eggs and chips. Dinner Naaah, just kidding , Smile, Wink & Grin a mug of green tea with a slice of lemon will go down just fine, especially as her-in-doors and I, after getting the groceries, and going to the library, went and had a kebab for tea as it’s our “date night”.
 
YGW, the American Football I was referring to was NFL.
 
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Now the topic of old/antique/surplus aircraft and their inferred “dangerousness” is one that can get me rather hot under the collar, suffice it to say I’m rather relaxed as it has been a pleasant evening and I don’t see the point of riling up Cousin Vinnie, so I will just say that I’ve spent the last 29 years making sure that pilots and passengers have no concerns about their aircrafts safety. Also having had a little to do with Transport Canada and a lot to do with the NZ Civil Aviation Authority, I can assure you that they have no sense of humour when it comes to shoddy maintenance, not that that has any real bearing on the high standards I was taught, and expected, to maintain from day one. That said, older aircraft do have particular challenges but just because an aircraft is “new” doesn’t mean that it’s maintenance can be taken lightly. Besides the De Havilland Canada Beaver and Otter were designed from the outset as bush planes equipped with wheels, skis, and floats, there is no current modern offering that has the same design criteria. End of lecture.Smile
 
DHC 2 Beaver, the Pieman and the Bear. 1985?
 
DHC 3 Otter, 10/2009.
 
I’ve always had an interest in machinery, I suspect most small boys have, but it wasn’t really until I became “hands on” that I became just as interested in the “men” that made the machinery and the processes required so I’m enjoying both herrinchokers and Eds insights.
 
Enjoyed your Monty Python links Ray, the rest of the family couldn’t understand why my Grandma and I found it so funny when it first came out on the TV.
 
Happy B-Day Cake Ulrich, The Black Dog” can be hard to battle but along with those affected by flood in Louisiana, and fire in the Los Angeles area you are included in my.....
 
Thoughts and Best Wishes to All that need them.
Cheers, the Bear.Smile

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Posted by hon30critter on Friday, August 19, 2016 4:59 AM

Ja Bear:

I hope I didn't imply that the De Havilland Beaver that we flew in while on vacation was anything but ship shape and utterly reliable. Indeed, other than the beautiful patina of slightly worn paint on the instrument panel, the plane looked like it was brand new. The classic De Havilland logo on the instrument panel gave me goose bumps - the good kind!

In fact, I was much more concerned when we took off out of Toronto in an Airbus at the beginning of our trip because of all of the banging and vibrating that it did while getting into the air. I thought parts would be flying off at any moment. The Beaver was superbly smooth by comparison. Even the classic miss-firing of the engine on startup was entertaining!

I can offer a recent example of how stringent Transport Canada is when it comes to sticking to the rules. Transport Canada has just stopped British Columbia's Air Ambulances from landing at seven different hospitals because the choppers being used don't officially meet the standards required to land at the helipads. Apparently it is a matter of getting the proper testing done. The helicopters are not deficient.

None the less, the authorities aren't taking any chances. I can't blame them. Obviously it is not a good situation because it has caused an increase in transportation time for critical patients, but can you imagine the results if one of the choppers was to crash into a hospital? The Air Ambulance company is negotiating a temporary exemption from the rules while the testing is done so the delays will be eliminated.

I will say that this is perhaps a bit extreme on Transport Canada's part, but their message has to be consistent - follow the rules and we will all be safe!

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Posted by hon30critter on Friday, August 19, 2016 5:02 AM

Bear:

What's happening in the picture of the white and yellow Beaver?

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Posted by "JaBear" on Friday, August 19, 2016 6:08 AM

No it wasn’t you Dave.
 

hon30critter
I will say that this is perhaps a bit extreme on Transport Canada's part, but their message has to be consistent - follow the rules and we will all be safe!

Can’t comment on the Transport Canada ruling but suspect that it is similar to the local change in rules regarding single engine helicopters operating at hospital pads, there is no real statistical evidence to prove twin engine helicopters are actually safer, it’s only perceived. I’m all for safety but not when it’s inspired by bureaucratic pedantry.
 
What's happening in the picture of the white and yellow Beaver?
 
We’re refuelling.
 
Here’s a video I came across that explains the operation better than words.
Cheers, the Bear.Smile

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Posted by LIRRs on Friday, August 19, 2016 7:21 AM

Morning All.

Ulrich - wishing you all the best and Happy Birthday.  Share some of your birthday cake with the doctor.  My wife celebrates her birthday today as well.

YGW - hope that things are going better with your father.  The road to recovery can be long and difficult; I know.

All the best.

Joe F

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