andrechapelon Unrealistic? How about stopping a passenger train at a station where the "platform" is shorter than a single car in the train and the rear hangs out into open country? Andre
Unrealistic? How about stopping a passenger train at a station where the "platform" is shorter than a single car in the train and the rear hangs out into open country?
Andre
SouthPenn Model rail roads that are set in the 1880s - 1890s and the buildings and rolling stock are modeled to look like they are 100 years old already. Shouldn't everything be relatively new?
Model rail roads that are set in the 1880s - 1890s and the buildings and rolling stock are modeled to look like they are 100 years old already. Shouldn't everything be relatively new?
Hi sir madog.
Will have to look out for the and then there are grass mat's that looks interesting.
Saw some of the new static tufts well to me they are new will be getting some of those when I work out the best way to use them.
regards John
Hi andrechapelon
Mini station long train
Happens a lot on the prototype in the US, AU and UK and that's just the ones I know about.
And it is often out in the country locations looks odd but is prototypical.
Better still it is one we as model railroaders can afford to do in our small empires.
What´s wrong with a grass mat?
Like many other products in this hobby, there are grass mats and there are grass mats, just a little more realistic.
Just check various products from Busch or Heki.
Hi ricktrains4824
I have grass mat on my layout not the brand you mention but I am very slowly getting through it one domestic lawn at a time.
thats all its any good for in a model railroad setting, domestic lawn and suburban parks because its mono tone and if you get the right one it does look like manicured lawn.
Not so far fetched.
I used to board the Lake Shore, Capitol or Pennsylvanian in Waterloo, Indiana frequently. When he was running on track two (the dispatcher would seldom cross him over to the real platform on one) the conductor would have a heck of a time spotting the steps on the eighteen feet or-so, of wood ties and asphalt that was a platform.
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Regards, Ed
The layouts of my childhood days included just about anything you have mentioned here, but boy were they fun to operate - which meant having a number of trains zoom by at the speed of lightning!
When building a layout today, we have a lot more means and methods available than in those days. We are searching for excellence and endavour perfection, but shouldn´t be step back and ask ourselves the question whether we have as much fun as we had back then?
My skills and abilities are waning due to a number of health issues I am battling, and so is my confidence in what I am doing. For that matter,I find working on my current layout(s) highly stressing. I may have to go back to those simple, unprototypical, packed with logical fallacies and model railroading cliches layouts and thoroughly enjoy it!
ricktrains4824(Quick, lets get a patent on a HO scale golf cart and golfer, to sell with the grass mats!)
Grand River Models EZ Track® on carpet. Very trendy now, but it's not railroad modeling.
EZ Track® on carpet. Very trendy now, but it's not railroad modeling.
That depends on color and style of carpet!
More of the JUP, pre-made grass mats... The cheap kind. Works well enough to add the green and texture, but needs lots of help to look realistic. (When you get it on sale cheaper than (model ) dirt however.... It works well for a base layer.) The biggest problem they suffer from, is nowhere do you find that uniform of a color and height of grass, unless you are at a golf course. (Most of us do not have a model golf course, maybe the next big cliché? Quick, lets get a patent on a HO scale golf cart and golfer, to sell with the grass mats! )
And, more JUP, running equipment from modern times on a steam layout, and vice-a-versa. (Except "railfan excursions" allowing steam on a modern era layout (AKA glorified train set, to follow the discussion)... )
And yes, I have been guilty of all of the above.... Including EZ track on the floor, pre-layout era.
Ricky W.
HO scale Proto-freelancer.
My Railroad rules:
1: It's my railroad, my rules.
2: It's for having fun and enjoyment.
3: Any objections, consult above rules.
chutton01Moving along, so far no love for the Spaghetti bowls I see.
Back in the day those "Spaghetti bowls " was all the rage and that design was carried forth in several layout books.
Even today we are still seeing "here a track,there a track everywhere a track track with grades so steep a Shay or a cog engine is needed to climb it..
My point less is best as is keeping grades to minimum.
Larry
Conductor.
Summerset Ry.
"Stay Alert, Don't get hurt Safety First!"
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One thing that irks me is seeing an exqisitely weathered car with rust accumulated around the cast-on grabs.
Dave
Just be glad you don't have to press "2" for English.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQ_ALEdDUB8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hqFS1GZL4s
http://s73.photobucket.com/user/steemtrayn/media/MovingcoalontheDCM.mp4.html?sort=3&o=27
tomikawaTTAnd if S-curves are really a problem (Not, when connected by proper transitions) I'm in big trouble.
Chuck,A terrible "S" curve can be found when using Atlas Snap Switches for crossovers.While it works with 40-50' cars and 4 axle locomotives I would never ever recommend it even though I use snap switch crossovers at least three or four times on 1x6' ISLs.
40 years later and I'm much wiser in designing ISLs and can design a decent ISL using 3-4 switches and have no need for crossovers or runarounds.
USMC_Grunt Isn't this so for any vehicles or figures on a layout UNLESS you move them around for each operating session? For that matter,,, Do the seasons or weather change on a layout? Its not normally a sunny bright cloudless day EVERY DAY :-) But hey if you like it that way...build it that way!
Isn't this so for any vehicles or figures on a layout UNLESS you move them around for each operating session? For that matter,,, Do the seasons or weather change on a layout? Its not normally a sunny bright cloudless day EVERY DAY :-) But hey if you like it that way...build it that way!
This leads into an issue I have regarding figures in general. Enough with the crazy action poses! Too many figures look like they're auditioning for Cirque du Soleil. Hands in the air, standing on one foot, Looking like they're running/tripping/losing their balance all the time. For people frozen in time, it just looks bad. Cheap figures are the worst offenders, but there are plenty of frantic Preiser and Woodland Scenics folks out there, charging incoherently into their eternal now.
One of the best uses of figures I ever saw was on a shelf layout set in the midwest. Cars were in parking lots, figures were either seated, leaning on something, or standing at rest. You know, they way people actuallty look. very understated, and very nice.
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Hi carl425
That is exactly what a "rabbit warren" layout is one with a multitude of tunnels at different levels and directions with a mountain setting, and usualy but not always a quarry somewhere and one station.
Where it is impossible for the viewer to know where the train is going to come out at any given time.
Thanks for proving children like them.
They where often over done and greatly favored in the UK at least by the OO9
narrow gauge fraternaty the closest in the US would be HOn 2 1/2.
I am old enough to know better but I still find them entertaining.
The closest prototype is the Darjeeling Himalayan Railway where a lot of the ideas came from.
You don't see them around much now the narrow gauge lines you do see have matured a lot since then, and have a much greater fidellity to something more real.
But that is in some ways a mixed blessing.
Catt Red Wing Milling and New River Mine are not kits.They are prepackaged Kit bashing and scratchbuilding supplies.
Red Wing Milling and New River Mine are not kits.They are prepackaged Kit bashing and scratchbuilding supplies.
Touche', Catt!
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Barry
GraffenAnd regarding the Rabbit warren type, is my new layout one?
I always thought of the "rabbit warren" as the type where a train would disappear into one tunnel and you couldn't guess where it would come out. I thought they were really cool when I was about 10 years old.
Graf:
Looks like a pretty good plan to me!
As a general observation, ultimately this thread is about personal likes and dislikes. I don't recall anybody saying that we are not allowed to do what we want (although the discussions about what can and can't be called a layout get kind of close to that). So Graf, you have my absolute permission to do whatever you want! That is, of course, as long as you grant me permission to do whatever I want too!
Sorry, poor attempt at trying to be funny.
I'm just a dude with a bad back having a lot of fun with model trains, and finally building a layout!
To claim that a model railway that has compromises due to the limitations of space etc. is less of a layout, is to me rather funny.
We mostly make model railroads as opposed to railroad models! I, for one, have no problems with that.
And regarding the Rabbit warren type, is my new layout one?
I want both scenery and a long mainline run in the given space. That is why I call it a model railroad. It has very few prototypical scenes, it has short runaround tracks and many other "flaws" that disqualifies it as a railroad model.
But it is built, by me, for me. And that is all that counts in my book.
It might also get other hateful things, such as punny names, hobos, dilapidated buildings and even the odd funeral party.
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I can't believe that as long as this thread has become nobody has mentioned the skinny dippers or the line of figures mooning the train!
chutton01
chutton01Did we cover incredibly dilapidated/weathered/dangerously unstable buildings that are represented as still in use?
One of my personal pet peeves is overly distressed metal roofing. Unless there has been a tornado, you will rarely if ever see metal sheets badly misaligned, or bent way out of shape, or with uneven edges. Yes, they do tear and blow off but they don't just move away from each other leaving wide gaps. They would never have been installed with the edges not lined up. The common practice of including wildly distorted corrugated roofing on 'craftsman' kits bothers me.
tomikawaTTToday, you can buy a curved turnout in a bubble pack. Or build one on a superelevated curve inches from a vertical easement.
John Busby Hi Wojosa31 But they are toys expencive gentlemans toys . The word model is used because no respectable gentleman about town could possibly be seen to be playing with childrens toys Oh no we are all victims of clever advertising. regards John
Hi Wojosa31
But they are toys expencive gentlemans toys .
The word model is used because no respectable gentleman about town could possibly be seen to be playing with childrens toys
Oh no we are all victims of clever advertising.
Yes they are...so is my new F150. Life is not all work and no play, there has to be a reward.
Now, if I could just get the figure of a railroader to only come of of the interlocking tower, when a train is passing, like the tower on the Lionel dream layout of my youth...