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Why did you make the choices you did?
Posted by Brinty-1936 on Sunday, November 29, 2015 6:08 PM

Why did you choose the type of locomotive you run on your layout? Was it because they were the locos that were around when you  were a child  growing up?  And why did you choose the type of scenery you did? Was it once again to recreate what you recall from childhood? Or were you instead creating your concept of a 'perfect' layout, a dream world?

In my own case I was born and bred in Auckland, New Zealand. We lived in a suburb about 4.5 miles from the city and travelled there by tram. At one point the road went over a railroad bridge then turned right and continued for about 200 yards parallel to the tracks. As a child I was always hopeful of seeing a train and someties I was lucky. It was during this time that my love of steam engines was born. As has been described by many steam enthusiasts, a steam engine is a  living  creature that snorts and belches and just radiates power and energy. The sound of a whistle is an extra bonus as is the smell of coal smoke.

Sadly the age of steam ended in 1968 in new Zealand. Diesel electrics came along but never reached (in my eyes) the glamour of the old steam engines. Less polution and more power were the driving forces but the most prevelant reason was probably economics.

In trying to recapture my youth I model steam with five locos - a Spectrum 0n 30 0-4-2 Porter, a Rivarossi 2-truck Heisler, a Spectrum 3-truck Climax, a Spectrum 0n 30 4-4-0, and a Paragon 2 NYC J1E Hudson 4-6-4. All are DCC equiped or DCC ready. I do have one diesel - a Paragon 2 GE C30-7. One thing I like about diesel is the great variety of colours.

I'm currently building a logging scene and am learning, usually the hard way, that I shouldn't have done some of the things I did. Working out a fix keeps the little grey cells from stagnating. My next venture will be (hopefully) a passenger service as I have a range of passenger coaches along with an assortment of freight cars. Time will tell though what the next creation will end up as.

I'm supposed to respect my elders, but its getting harder and harder for me to find any now.

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Posted by BRAKIE on Sunday, November 29, 2015 6:15 PM

I have a oddball collection of locomotives because I model 78-80/85-90 and 94/95. I favor industrial switching layout thus my scenery is industrial.

The reason for 78-80 is because of my rather large collection of colorful IPD shortline boxcars seen in that time frame.

No particular reason for 85-90 or 84/95. I just like modeling those years.

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Posted by RR_Mel on Sunday, November 29, 2015 6:57 PM

I’m a lot like you, I grew up living very close to the Southern Pacific north bound tracks out of El Paso Texas.  MY teen years were the early fifties so that hooked me to the 1950s and living in El Paso hooked me on SP Steam.  The SP was running AC-9s for freight service north, Cab Forwards for freight service west and E7s and PAs for passenger service.
 
 
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Posted by tomikawaTT on Sunday, November 29, 2015 7:21 PM

My wife and I visited a place we both fell in love with.  Since I was already a model railroader and had already committed to a scale and prototype, that concentrated the prototype down to a single route (of a national monopoly) and a single month.

Then I changed some names.  That loosened up the limits on the locomotive roster since I could now include classes I had seen in operation elsewhere.

I looked at other possibilities.  The narrow(er) gauge forest railway was native to the area, but there were two other operations from out-of-the-area locations that I wanted to include.  So I bit my tongue, grafted them on and pressed forward.  One provided a venue for the rolling stock designer to come out and play - so I now have a simple 2-6-6-2T (something Japan NEVER had) pulling seven-axle articulated hoppers on my coal-originating private railroad (in an area that never had a workable coal seam.)

So I model some things that once were and others that never existed (but might have) because that's what I like.  No childhood influence (I grew up in New York City, definitely not steam country.)  Not much nostalgia for the past (I also write science fiction.)  Just a desire to reproduce in miniature what I saw and imagined full scale one happy month half a century ago.

Chuck (Modeling Central Japan as it might have been in September, 1964)

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Posted by Eric97123 on Sunday, November 29, 2015 7:22 PM

I run mostly CSX locos and I like the more modern locos. I do have several SD70ace's, I think they are sexy looking. 

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Posted by selector on Sunday, November 29, 2015 7:34 PM

I came of age near railroads and airplanes.  Earlier, I was exposed to steam locomotives with all their visible motions, and to propellar-driven aircraft such as the DC-3, the DC-6, and the Super Constellation.  While I still enjoy being railside and watching modern diesels go by, they don't have any visible works that fascinate me.  So, I learned mostly about steam when I joined the hobby as a mature person, and continue to enjoy running steam to this day.  I like Canadian and American steam, although I have an appreciation for steam from any country. 

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Posted by ACY Tom on Sunday, November 29, 2015 7:52 PM

It's mostly what I saw when I was a kid in Ohio in the 1950's, in the last years of steam on the B&O, PRR, NKP, NYC, and AC&Y.

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Posted by up831 on Sunday, November 29, 2015 9:07 PM

I grew up in towns that were along the UP Kansas Division, so that heavily influenced my choices.  A little later, I lived in LA for some time and developed a fascination for SP.  So, no problem!  I can accommodate both.

Less is more,...more or less!

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Posted by rrebell on Sunday, November 29, 2015 9:21 PM

I started with whatever rolling stock as long as it was detailed and steam, built my layout and started using diesels as many ran better than some of my steam out of the box, then I went through everything and anything that didn't run well was sold so I ended up with a bunch of steam Proto 2000 and a bunch of Spectrum in steam. The diesels I kept were a few Atlas, a bunch of Kato and an oddball or two. Used to not care about the road name but started going for Southern Pacific when I started buying diesels. Another thing that changed is I started doing a lot of logging stuff but as the layout progressed it went to freight and a late 1930's time frame.

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Posted by Mheetu on Sunday, November 29, 2015 9:33 PM

My collection of locomotive is rather odd.  It goes from the 2-6-0 ihc southern which share a roundhouse next to a Milwaukee road Bi polar electric, next to a small emd model 40, etc to streamline super hudsons and semi streamlined pacific  Most of the locomotive I have are rather one off or industrial designers being artistic.  The roundhouse area of my layout I call it a museum since the area can go from streamline steam to big em1 class a or the odd q2 etc. 

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Posted by cats think well of me on Sunday, November 29, 2015 9:34 PM

For me, even though I'm 32, I've just always liked steam engines, and the aesthetics of the world they were a part of way back when. I used to pour over a copy of Don Ball's Pennsylvania Railroad in the '40s and '50s book as a child. I also enjoyed photo books on trains growing up. My interest in the hobby comes and goes, as does my train collections. For next year I'm planning on getting back into collecting HO-scale PRR models, especially since really nice P70 models look to be a reality next year. Living in Pennsylvania for the last 10-years also influences my modeling tastes as there's still so much of the original PRR still in place, plus a great railroad museum and tourist railroad not far from me either. 

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Posted by angelob6660 on Sunday, November 29, 2015 10:41 PM

When I was young I didn't have one particular railroad when I was looking at magazines and track plan books. They're layouts were also my layouts, pretending I have AT&SF, UP, and others.

In 1994 I saw Southern Pacific/Cotton Belt locomotives in the train yard, but not really interesting to me yet. I believe in 1997 I saw a Warbonnet BNSF and a lot more Union Pacific. 

When I was planning a train set I chose to model the NYC in 1938 because of the 20th Century Limited steam locomotive, and their beautiful Hudsons. Unfortunately it didn't last. 

I decide to choose the modern era because I have one good working hand and holding a steam engine in a challenge half the time.

Union Pacific and BNSF 1998-2007

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Conrail 1987, 1996-98

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Posted by hon30critter on Sunday, November 29, 2015 11:35 PM

In 1965 I rode The Canadian from Toronto to Vancouver and back. I loved the look of the FP7s or 9s and I even got to ride in one. For that reason I have acquired a fleet of 7 HO FP7s and 9s and corresponding B units in Canadian Pacific's maroon and grey. They are all Intermountain. If I win the lottery I will get a Rapido set.

I also love S and SW series switchers so I have a bunch of them in CP maroon and grey as well. I have no history with them, other than climbing on one that was on display some place in Northern Ontario. I can't remember where.

I have a few steamers including Harry Potter's Hogwarts Express. Most of them are old Tyco kits that are in various stages of assembly (and have been for quite some time). I think I am more interested in building the old kits than operating them but I will run them occasionally.

I also have several 'critters' two of which I scratch built. I love the little engines, including the challenge of getting them to run reliably.

Finally, I have the almost finished McKeen Motor Car (still waiting for decalsSigh). I had never seen nor heard of one until I saw a Funaro and Carmerlengo kit on eBay some time ago. I just had to have one even though it doesn't even come close to my era or location. It was just too cool looking to pass up.

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Posted by Ray Dunakin on Sunday, November 29, 2015 11:45 PM

I never got a chance to see steam in action when I was growing up, but I did see a few "stuffed and mounted" steam locomotives and was duly impressed by the massive, exposed working parts and the apparent complexity.

Of course I also saw steam trains in the movies, and my dad used to tell me stories about his experiences with steam trains. So I grew up with a great love for, and desire to see, steam railroading. 

My layout is a way to recapture, in miniature, the kind of railroading I missed out on.

 

 

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Posted by "JaBear" on Monday, November 30, 2015 1:39 AM
Gidday, another Kiwi; that makes three of us that are currently active on the forum.

Brinty-1936
Sadly the age of steam ended in 1968 in New Zealand.

While that was true in the North Island, the “Kingston Flyer” aside, steam didn’t finish in service on the “Mainland” until late 1971 with last run of the Ja 4-8-2 hauled “South Island Limited”. I was only thirteen at the time but remember the sight, noise and smell very well.
Anyhow, to answer your question.  Why am I modelling 1950s US railroads, simple cost!!!  As much as I have a great fondness for my avatar, the NZR Ja class, to purchase an RTR one is eye watering, besides I’m having fun doing the research on US railroads.
Cheers, the Bear.Smile

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Posted by richhotrain on Monday, November 30, 2015 5:04 AM

I model Dearborn Station in Chicago. So, I have no choice.  I have to run Santa Fe, Wabash, Erie, C&EI, GTW, and Monon.

Rich

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Posted by riogrande5761 on Monday, November 30, 2015 5:11 AM

I grew up an Air Force kid with my dad being stationed at various places so I don't have any roots in the traditional sense; born 1959 in San Antonio TX (after steam was gone) and moved at 3 to Indiana, then short bit in Massechuesetts and on to California from age 7 to 24.  Being that most of that time was northern California Southern Pacific is all I saw until I drove to or through Colorado on a number of trips in the 1980's - which got me hooked on the Rocky Mountain scenery and the stanadard gauge D&RGW.

I've settled on mainly on the D&RGW of the 1970's and 1980's along with a good dose of Southern Pacific cause it was the RR of my teens and twenties.

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Posted by DAVID FORTNEY on Monday, November 30, 2015 5:36 AM

I love the super steam era of the UP, NYC, and the Erie. All my engines are steam engines. I have built my layout to show case the locomotives. Nice trains running thru nice scenery. 

Sit back, run my favorite locomotive for that day, have a drink and watch those big engines roll, it gets no better then that.

 

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, November 30, 2015 6:39 AM

I have been a train fan as long as I can think of, but a special attachment came on my 10th birthday during a family vacation in Switzerland. On that very day I was invited for a cab ride when the driver found out it was my birthday. It was not a long ride, just a few miles down the track from Fiesch to Lax on the Furka-Oberalp Railway. Since then I have been longing to build a layout based on this railway line, as well as the other "main" Swiss narrow gauge lines, the Rhaetian Railway and the Zermatt Railway.

Unfortunately, the loco (see my avatar) has developed a gear box problem and I am not dure whether a set of replacement gear boxes are still available from the manufacturer, as the have changed the chassis design from the old twin-motored version to a single coreless motor design.

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Posted by Phoebe Vet on Monday, November 30, 2015 6:46 AM

First of all, I love the title of his thread.  Such an introspective would be of value to us all.

...now back to model railroading:

Most of my small empire is made up of trains of the three railroads that had yards in the city where I grew up.  However it also has a lot of "Papa, can we buy this" and contributions by the spouse.

Dave

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Posted by kasskaboose on Monday, November 30, 2015 6:57 AM
Philosophical discussions are great! I picked my loco b/c Ii'm modeling southern VA during the 1980s. My 1st loco came in a set and was one seen in the 1950s from Sante Fe. It was a suitable starter loco, but the couplers kept breaking off from the loco body, so I bought a NW loco. The one I got had six-axles, so I had to expand the layout to create a broader curve. In doing that, I made the layout appear more enjoyable to watch.
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Posted by erosebud on Monday, November 30, 2015 7:27 AM

I was born (1947) and raised in Lima, Ohio, where they made a lot of steam engines, but "the [Lima] Loco[motive Works]" was across town and already shifting its product line from big engines to steam shovels, as we still called them.  My real exposure to the trains was by hearing them from the Pennsy (I think; we never bothered with names) mainline and yard some two or three blocks from my bedroom window.

Nostalgia also entered in by way of a DT&I retail coal company siding way across town the other direction, right across the street from my granddad's barber shop.  Again it was more an aural experience, hearing the hoppers come in and get banged around and unloaded with small conveyors and manual shoveling, not unlike the sound of the fireman shifting fuel from tender to firebox.

By the time I was old enough for "an electric train," it was a simple Marx set and a figure-8 of track.  Much later I had the capital to start an N-scale layout when we lived in Montana.  The layout grew into half a garage in northern California for about six years, and just as it was getting done, we moved back to Ohio with the trackwork all cut up and the buildings and rolling stock boxed away.

After some feeble rebuilding in a new setting in our basement, I let the layout go fallow until retiring a few years ago.  New space, new configuration, new scale (HO), but still steam and short cars and trains; the plan is a little over half complete down to ballast and pine trees (an imaginary branch of the GN way up in the corner of northwest Montana and Idaho with an interchange to/from the Canadian Pacific). 

But it's slow going:  bone marrow cancer prompted a stem cell transplant with months of recovery, followed by a flooded basement that's only just now been restored, though of course the layout proper wasn't harmed except as the salvage people tore out carpet underneath.  I wasn't allowed near any of it to direct the storage of cars and building kits and such--risk of mold spores and no immune system--so a lot had to be pitched or got stashed where I still can't find it.

Finally I'm setting things back on the rails, having dried out most of the wood kits and Accurail cars.  I'm running better on my sister/donor's immune system now, and currently steroids are giving me energy and initiative.  I'm trying to make tracks now and get a simple out-and-back for the great-nieces and -nephews to run, with lots of manual knobs and buttons to humanize the mysteries of the DCC operating system.  Maybe Christmas '16 will see some solid results.  Meanwhile, I have the time and the retirement income to keep the boiler stoked, if that's the phrase, and in the spirit of the season, I hope the same for all of our colleagues here and at the magazine and around the globe.

 

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Posted by riogrande5761 on Monday, November 30, 2015 8:04 AM

Michael,  I too had some issues with water - although maybe not an outright flood, the sump pump failed during a major storm and all of one rooms floor got fully wet and maybe half of the train room floor.  My wife and I were away for the weekend but immediately when we returned, we went into remediation mode as we had read you need to deal with things within a couple days time.  We removed all the laminate flooring in the adjacent den room and all the carpet out from under the layout in the train room; I also cut out quite a bit of drywall too to be sure we got everything.  In September I started replacing the cut out area's with fresh drywall, and started mudding, taping and all that fun stuff.  I'm just getting the last of it finished now - being realtively new to it, I'm not speedy Gonzales.  We still need to put something back on the bare cement floors; this time going with vinyl tiles which can survive getting wet much better than carpet or laminate!

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Posted by richhotrain on Monday, November 30, 2015 8:09 AM

riogrande5761

Michael,  I too had some issues with water - although maybe not an outright flood, the sump pump failed during a major storm and all of one rooms floor got fully wet and maybe half of the train room floor.  My wife and I were away for the weekend but immediately when we returned, we went into remediation mode as we had read you need to deal with things within a couple days time.  

That is my worst nightmare.  What have you done to prevent a recurrence of the problem?

Rich

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Posted by Doughless on Monday, November 30, 2015 8:22 AM

I am a lone wolf modeler, meaning I can't run a bunch of trains at the same time...as a layout that has multiple operators can.

I like to represent a realistic look to the layout, with realistic operations.

Single trains, and limited space by which to make things look realistic, confine me into modeling shortlines...no long trains for me.  I like diesels and more modern rolling stock.  Shortlines acquire of variety of secondhand locomotives, allowing a variation of roadnames and oddball pieces on the layout. I live in the midwest, so an abundance of mountainous verticle scenery is not really what I want to model, since I want to be able to study the topography first hand, not having to rely upon photos or extended field trips.

So its midwest/SE shortlines of about post-1985. 

But picking a specific shortline to model is difficult, since the operations are too limited for my liking.  A freelanced shortine gives me more freedom to develop the operations I want within the realistic visual presentation that I want.

If not that, I'd be modeling a logging railroad in the western US or Canada, with geared steam, sometime in the 1930's to 1950's

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Posted by IRONROOSTER on Monday, November 30, 2015 8:57 AM

Well I started out to model a freelance mainline railroad in HO.  But along the way I decided that HO was too small so I switched to O.  Decided that was too big and switched to S where I have been since '93.

Then I decided that I didn't like mainline all that much, but did like smaller steam locomotives and truss rod cars.  I had read The Ma & Pa by George Hilton years earlier, so I decided that would be the line to model.  I picked the early 50's because passenger service was still operating.  It also had a mix of small steam (4-4-0, 4-6-0, 0-6-0, 2-8-0) and small diesel switchers (SW1, NW2, SW9).  The Ma & Pa (Maryland & Pennsylvania Railroad) still had truss rod cars with archbar trucks (no longer allowed in interchange) and open platform cars with truss rods. 

Enjoy

Paul

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Posted by E-L man tom on Monday, November 30, 2015 9:36 AM

I grew up along the Delaware Division of the Erie/Erie Lackawanna; at that time the main line between Buffalo and NY City. Then, after college, my first "real" job landed me in Dayton, Ohio, in the mid to late 70's. Lo and behold, the Chessie System, and, lo and behold, the Erie Lackawanna too! Then, a year's stint in northwestern Indiana, and, lo and behold, the Erie Lackawanna! Ever since that time I have been a fan of both the EL and the Chessie System, having locomotives (and, as close as possible, rolling stock from that era), of both road's liveries.

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Posted by dknelson on Monday, November 30, 2015 10:09 AM

I was a Pennsylvania RR modeler for just about 35 years, although the layout was always in the planning stage because I could never commit to a PRR theme: east coast with GG1s?  Horsehoe Curve with Js?  Or Ohio with articulateds and 2-10-2s?  Or the racetrack to Chicago?  Moreover I saw no way I could get large pieces of plywood home in my small car.   It was planning paralysis.

Anyway in the 1990s LifeLike suddenly became a quality product with their Proto2000 line and they soon came out with two C&NW SW1200s both carrying the very numbers of the switchers I saw every day on the C&NW line through my home town as a teen: 1124 and 1125.  And in a flash I totally switched from Pennsy to North Western, modeling my old home town, based entirely on those particular two road numbers being available on plastic locomotives.

And at about that same time David Barrow introduced his domino style of benchwork and layout planning, and I discovered that Menards had "Handi-panel" pieces of plywood in Barrow's 2'x4' size.  Rather suddenly I had more benchwork than I could comfortably wire.

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Posted by Jimmy_Braum on Monday, November 30, 2015 10:52 AM

I was a Pennsy steam nut forever, but that kinda faded out when I saw the Broadway Limited prices (lol), so I switched over to Norfolk Southern, but that also faded because everyone else was doing NS.  I eventually ended up settling on my current railroads, the Wheeling and Lake Erie with their assorted EMD power (SD40-2, GP35s high and short hood, etc) and the freelanced Austinville and Dynamite City railroad (AVDC), also powered by a ragtag assortment of EMD power.

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These are the opinions of an under 35 , from the east end of, and modeling, the same section of the Wheeling and Lake Erie railway.  As well as a freelanced road (Austinville and Dynamite City railroad).  

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Posted by Catt on Monday, November 30, 2015 11:25 AM

When people learn my age (early 70s) the first question they ask is why I don't model steam so I explain to them that the first time I road on a train with steam power I was 6 weeks old,the second time I was 6 months old.The first time I saw a real steam locomotive I was in my 40s.

My whole modeling life like my real life has been around diesels.I prefer to model today so if you look at my layout(s) and a calender you will know what day I am modeling. Smile

Johnathan(Catt) Edwards 100 % Michigan Made

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