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What Is, And How Old Is, Your Oldest Unbuilt Kit.

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Posted by West Coast S on Saturday, October 24, 2015 5:17 PM

I have a few Perma Built S kits that predate 1950, too bad they will remain unbuilt as the wood has seasoned and hardened over the decades to the point of being impossible to trim and sand. The provided instructions and diagrams will be handy for scratch building using currrent materials, so its not a total loss.

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Posted by BRAKIE on Saturday, October 24, 2015 4:00 PM

My "oldest" kit is 2 days old.My first car kit was a Athearn yellow box 40' boxcar..My first locomotive kit was a Penn-Line H9 2-8-0.. I was 10 years old and built this engine under my dad's watchful eye.

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Posted by Uncle_Bob on Saturday, October 24, 2015 1:32 PM

dknelson

Well that was a mistake.  This thread made me go to the shelves and count the unbuilt kits.  I have about 130 unbuilt rolling stock kits.  And just slightly under that in structure kits.  I should not have done that.  Now it feels hopeless.  

My oldest unbuilt kits are way older than I am: Pickard wood boxcar or reefer bodies, two in HO and one in O, probably from the late 1930s.  These were very basic flat floor, end, shaped roof, center sill, and sides, all wood, no detail whatever, with scribing for the ends and sides.  The scribing still looks pretty good.  They were milled to fit together and presumably glued.  When new the parts came taped together.  I did remove the tape years ago to sample fit the parts together, but apart from that they are like new -- circa 1939.  I guess I destroyed the collector value if any  by removing the tape.

I have lots of unbuilt Varney flat car, Athearn boxcar, Ullrich hopper, and Roundhouse ore car metal kits from the early 1950s, bought at swap meets.  But most of my unbuilt kits are standard plastic kits, from shake the box to quite challenging, from the 1970s to the present.    

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Well that was a mistake.  This thread made me go to the shelves and count the unbuilt kits.  I have about 130 unbuilt rolling stock kits.  And just slightly under that in structure kits.  I should not have done that.  Now it feels hopeless.  

My oldest unbuilt kits are way older than I am: Pickard wood boxcar or reefer bodies, two in HO and one in O, probably from the late 1930s.  These were very basic flat floor, end, shaped roof, center sill, and sides, all wood, no detail whatever, with scribing for the ends and sides.  The scribing still looks pretty good.  They were milled to fit together and presumably glued.  When new the parts came taped together.  I did remove the tape years ago to sample fit the parts together, but apart from that they are like new -- circa 1939.  I guess I destroyed the collector value if any  by removing the tape.

I have lots of unbuilt Varney flat car, Athearn boxcar, Ullrich hopper, and Roundhouse ore car metal kits from the early 1950s, bought at swap meets.  But most of my unbuilt kits are standard plastic kits, from shake the box to quite challenging, from the 1970s to the present.    

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I have around 150 HO Scale rolling rock kits and 20 or so N Scale rolling stock kits, along with around 40 airplane kits and a pile of structure kits to build.  Hues  I'm all set for my retirement years!  

I'm not sure what kit is oldest,but it's probably a West Shore Line kit from the late '80s or early '90s.  I also got a Floor Craft PRR interlocking tower and NYC 19000 series caboose kit around the same time. OK, so 25 year old kits aren't that old, but I've had them for over half my life, if that counts for much.

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Posted by dknelson on Saturday, October 24, 2015 10:55 AM

Well that was a mistake.  This thread made me go to the shelves and count the unbuilt kits.  I have about 130 unbuilt rolling stock kits.  And just slightly under that in structure kits. {Amended post: No! It is over 150 unbuilt structure kits, if you count the Walthers Modulars boxes.  I feel worse than ever now.}  I should not have done that.  Now it feels hopeless.  

My oldest unbuilt kits are way older than I am: Pickard wood boxcar or reefer bodies, two in HO and one in O, probably from the late 1930s.  These were very basic flat floor, end, shaped roof, center sill, and sides, all wood, no detail whatever, with scribing for the ends and sides.  The scribing still looks pretty good.  They were milled to fit together and presumably glued.  When new the parts came taped together.  I did remove the tape years ago to sample fit the parts together, but apart from that they are like new -- circa 1939.  I guess I destroyed the collector value if any  by removing the tape.

I have lots of unbuilt Varney flat car, Athearn boxcar, Ullrich hopper, and Roundhouse ore car metal kits from the early 1950s, bought at swap meets.  But most of my unbuilt kits are standard plastic kits, from shake the box to quite challenging, from the 1970s to the present.    

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Posted by dinwitty on Friday, October 23, 2015 11:38 PM
I have a Winton 2-6-6-6 brass kit that was purchased off EBAY, it was stored in some previous owners barn loft and laid there some 45 years, (or maybe longer I forget the whole story) I have actually started construction on it but its not finished. aside from that I have some Paul Moore kits also off ebay unbuilt. These are interurban cars (South Shore). These date to the late 50's early 60's. Plus some newer Walthers North Shore cars still unbuilt in the boxes kits. I think I have a semi-built Hobbyline berkshire with the idea of making it an operational Wheeling and Lake Erie (NKP 800 class berkshire) but I bought a brass PFM berkshire to do that mod now. I can't think of other kits purchased in my own time yet unbuilt, but I sure have a number of newer unbuilt kits, thats a given.Maybe something buried I can't think of for now.
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Posted by Southgate on Friday, October 23, 2015 10:00 PM

I build 1/25 auto and big truck models, and an HO RR. Someone who knows I build models gave me a box of various smaller airplane models, some balsa and some plastic. Some must be 50+ years old. (As am I) Even if I'm not a plane builder, holding these kits in hand, some still sealed, feels nostalgic. Li'l pieces of model history.

RR Related; On the 'bay, I scored a nice Cary heavy usra mikado boiler. Don't know how old it is, but included all the brass details. When it arrived, to my surprise, the deal also included a Harold Mellor brass cab conversion that looks to be from, what, the early '60s? 

That's going on a Mantua 2-8-2 with "Power Drive" I bought new in the '80s. What a sweet smooth running loco, even by today's standards. Dan

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Posted by The Ferro Kid on Friday, October 23, 2015 12:52 PM

A Walthers HO heavyweight NYC diner I bought circa 1975, so 40 years old.  These were primarily wood kits with metal sides, ends, and some detail castings.  Think it was less trucks and couplers.    Never bought any more because couldn't see where I'd have the time to build them.  But that didn't stop me from buying a bunch of Branchline heavyweights some years back.  Planning to live to 90 to finish this stuff.

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Posted by jecorbett on Friday, October 23, 2015 12:03 PM

I have a craftsman 300 ton Fairbanks-Morse coaling tower. I bought it back in the early 1980s. I intended it for use on my old layout but I moved before I got around to building it. On the new layout I put in the Walthers concrete coaling tower at my main engine terminal so I have no need for it. I thought about using it on the branchline but it is just too big to be appropriate for a two train a day operation. If I run out of things to do I might get around to building it and if I do would probably replace the Walthers coaling tower. That day if it ever comes is years away.

EDIT: Forgot to mention that a few years back I purchased on e-bay the FSM version of John Allen's engine house. It was a limited edition kit that I believe came out in the early 1980s. I wanted one but had other priorities at the time and never got it. I found out you can find a lot of old FSM kits on e-bay and when I found this one I snapped it up. This one I do intend to build and it is going to be a centerpiece at the terminus of my branchline. I hope to get started on it before the end of the year.  

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Posted by ACY Tom on Friday, October 23, 2015 11:59 AM

Oh!  What an embarrassing can of worms you've opened!

I have the Westwood Ma & Pa Passenger set, an early resin kit for an NKP auto boxcar from Dennis Storzek, and an Ambroid H-12 NKP 50 ton composite hopper.

But the list of REALLY old stuff starts with a Westbrook (remember them?) O scale C&NW flatcar kit.  Then it continues to include an HO J.C. Silversides PRR combine, a couple Ulrich hoppers, and Model Hobbies kits for their Company House, stock pens, freight house, and two of their water tank kits. Model Hobbies was a contemporary of Ayers, mentioned above. The original Model Hobbies boxes are collectors' items in their own right.

Most of you won't remember much of this stuff.

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Posted by 7j43k on Friday, October 23, 2015 10:56 AM

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The oldest kit that I have that is unbuilt is a wooden kit of a barn, HO scale, that I picked up at a silent auction about 4 years ago. I forget who makes it but it looks like it dates back to the mid to late 50's, maybe earlier. 
 

 

 

 

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Posted by wjstix on Friday, October 23, 2015 10:00 AM

I might have an old Train Miniature (the HO steam-era freight car line that Walthers bought years ago and now offers as "Mainline" cars) kit or two from the early/mid 1980's somewhere, but they probably were bought long after that at a RR flea market. I know I have some old structure kits (like 2 Walthers ore docks) and passenger car kits (like Rock Island Rocket streamlined passenger car kits issued as a set by Branchline) from the 1990's that are still waiting for that part of the layout to be completed so they can be built and put in place. 

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Posted by trwroute on Friday, October 23, 2015 9:54 AM

My very first kit was the Red Baron plastic car kit, somewhere around 1970 - 71.  

In '73, I got involved in N scale and my first kit then, I believe, was probably a structure of some kind.

My oldest kit that I still currently have is a Smokey Valley GP15, and I do have all the necessary parts to build it.  I have built three of these throughout the years and they are a lot of fun.  I just have to be in the mood first!

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Posted by E-L man tom on Friday, October 23, 2015 9:14 AM

The first kit I ever built was an AMT model of a 1940 ford coup; probably dates back to about 1959 or 1960. It was one of those 3 n 1 kits, where you could build it as a stock, custom, or racing/hot rod. AMT came out with many kits like that in that time period.

The oldest kit that I have that is unbuilt is a wooden kit of a barn, HO scale, that I picked up at a silent auction about 4 years ago. I forget who makes it but it looks like it dates back to the mid to late 50's, maybe earlier. 

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Posted by Weighmaster on Friday, October 23, 2015 9:08 AM

I still have the Borax 20 mule team I got around 1955.  Had to get it through the mail IIRC.  Don't recall if product purchase was necessary (probably not), and I think the cost was around a buck.  10 years old at the time.

 

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Posted by dti406 on Friday, October 23, 2015 8:13 AM

I believe my first kit was the USCG Cutter Campbell kit that I built in the 1950's.

The oldest kit I purchased that is unbuilt is an Ambroid 1-5000 kit of the Southern All Door Boxcar that I purchased in the early 60's. (Kit released in 10/63). My wife picked up an old Mainline Models Vinegar Tank Car kit at a garage sale which dates from I don't know when.

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Posted by riogrande5761 on Friday, October 23, 2015 4:16 AM

Most here have me beat by a long shot.  I don't think I have any kits older than the 1980's - most of my remaining kits have either been sold off or I have maybe one box full, most bought in the 1990's or more recently.  Enjoy yourselves!  Bow

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Posted by "JaBear" on Friday, October 23, 2015 2:15 AM
Non model railroad, a 1/72 Airfix Shorts Sunderland kit which I’ve had for 25+ years, and a few years ago I picked up an unbuilt Silver Streak box car kit which may be new to me but still an old kit.
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Posted by OT Dean on Thursday, October 22, 2015 11:09 PM

I have a Thomas O scale single-dome tank car kit I bought off eBay more than ten years ago.  I fell in love with the Thomas Consol 'way back in the late '50s when I bought the 1951 through 1958 bound volumes of Model Railroader.  At the time, I was a total fan of the then editor, Paul Larson, whose HO Mineral Point & Northern was the stuff of dreams to a teenager.  However, the editor he replaced, John Page, was an "O-gauger" and one of his favorite locos was the Thomas Consol.  I liked its chunky, old-timey workhouse good looks, so when I decided to go into O scale in the mid-'60s, I tried to purchase a kit through my favorite LHS.  

I didn't know it at the time, but James Thomas had died and his wife sold the business to a Texas businessman--and hot metal from a die-casting machine had set fire to the factory, destroying it.  I built a chunky little Mogul over an inexpensive Japanese mechanism, instead.  Shortly after that, I realized that, barring a financial miracleI was probably going to be an apartment-dweller for the rest of my life and went back into HO.

In my dotage, I went back into O and managed to get my hands on not one but three Consols, one of them still in original condition, so I bought a couple of Thomas bobber cabeese off eBay and decided I wanted a single-dome Thomas tank car to put on display with the engine and caboose.  (The MR Trade Topics review of the tank car called it one of the finest kits available in "O gauge," even though it was pricey, $5.75, less trucks.)  I paid 68 bucks for mine, but I've never gotten around to building the kit, which is still in its original box.  (I have about eight other projects to finish before I can even think about it!)  BTW: it really is an excellent kit.

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Posted by hon30critter on Thursday, October 22, 2015 10:10 PM

I have a couple of old kits but I'm not sure of the exact ages.

One is an Aristo Craft Rotary Snow Plow kit in the original red and yellow box. The kit is plastic so I guess that might suggest a rough date. It has a rubber band drive for the blade. There is a price stamped on the box of $2.95.

Another is a Northeastern Scale Models wood HM-2 Russel Snow Plow, kit #1302, also in its original box. I've only built one wood rolling stock kit so far so the plow will be an interesting exercise.

The third is an Athearn Metal Line HO 50' round roof box car which I bought recently for what looked to be a really great price. Unfortunately it showed up sans doors and ends. It is not in its original box. The seller was good enough to refund my money and told me to keep the kit so I'm not out anything.  I'll have to do some research to find out what the doors and ends looked like and whether anything suitable is available. I might start a thread to see if anyone has any pictures.

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Posted by SouthPenn on Thursday, October 22, 2015 7:52 PM

The oldest model kit that I have and still unbuilt is a Revell Chinook helicopter kit. In the closet for ~30 years.

I don't have any unbuilt rail road kits. I put them all together while recuperating from open heart surgery.

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Posted by Mheetu on Thursday, October 22, 2015 7:51 PM

Roundhouse old timer 2-6-0 kit and bowser casey jones kit.  Not sure how old it is but I am pretty sure it pre dcc as it still use the locomotive shell as a ground.

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Posted by tinplatacis on Thursday, October 22, 2015 7:17 PM

If a model passes through here, it is usually built.  However, I have an Airfix 4-4-0, schools class, that is unbuilt from 1962. Built, however, I have my Cherokee Valley 2-8-0 made from an Airfix Evening Star and a Fleischmann 2-10-0 mechanism.

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Posted by CRIP 4376 on Thursday, October 22, 2015 7:08 PM

My wife built the mule team for her father.  He actually had two kits, so it became a 40 mule team display.

My oldest unbuilt rr kit is a Varney #2585 Aerotrain observation kit.  It is unpainted gray plastic.  I have always planned to make a coach out of it as I have a rtr observation and no coaches.

The first rr kit I remember building was a Varney metal sided Fairmount Creamery reefer.  Still have it.  When you lived in a small town in the 50's with no hobbyshop and a 50¢ a week allowance, you depended on E&H's Iron Horse catalog every month.  You probably had to get an allowance advance to send in a $3 order and then you looked every day for the olive drab mail truck.

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Posted by Lone Wolf and Santa Fe on Thursday, October 22, 2015 6:54 PM

My oldest unbuilt model is a Walthers 5 Unit All Purpose Spine Car I bought in August 2002, and another I bought in October 2003. I hoarded several of these nice kits when they were discontinued and deeply discounted when people mistakenly thought they had no value. I paid as low as $15 for these kits that usually sold for $40. I think I never built them because I ready had matching numbers and I was saving if traffic increased or I decided to sell, which I haven’t.

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Posted by Guy Papillon on Thursday, October 22, 2015 6:16 PM

I don't qualify for this thread. Although I have a few unbuilt kits, none is more than ten years old. 

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Posted by CAZEPHYR on Thursday, October 22, 2015 6:13 PM

I have many of the Trains miniture billboard 40" boxcars purchased in 1969 and later in that era.  Just can't get around to building them. Bluebox cars also from the early 1970 era that are not built.  Too much work and not sufficient time to build kits.  

That would make them at least 45 to 47 years old.

 

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Posted by rrinker on Thursday, October 22, 2015 6:01 PM

 My oldest unbuilt kit is probably a Silver Streak caboose kit. Combination brass and wood kit. Sort of a Reading type caboose, which is why I bought it.

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Posted by IRONROOSTER on Thursday, October 22, 2015 4:55 PM

I think my oldest unbuilt kit is an Atlas turnout kit.  But I also have two old all metal kits - Roundhouse boxcar and Roundhouse gondola.  All of these I bought long after they were made.

The oldest unbuilt kit that I purchased new is a Westwood Maryland & Pennsylvania double coach kit.

First kit I remember building was the USS Arizonia.

First model railroad kits was the Atlas passenger station, Atlas lumberyard, and Atlas signal tower.  I built all these for my first layout one after another, but I no longer remember the order.

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Posted by mobilman44 on Thursday, October 22, 2015 4:38 PM

Ulrich metal triple hopper - circa early 70s?

Have a few other Ulrich cars built, and they are pretty nice!

 

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Posted by peahrens on Thursday, October 22, 2015 3:55 PM

In the garage two boxes collect dust. An F100 fighter kit from the 70s (flew them) and a 66 GTO kit (have a 2nd full sized one) which I guess I found in 90s. I won't tackle them until I master my airbrush some day.

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