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Model Railroading for Seniors

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Posted by BroadwayLion on Friday, June 12, 2015 11:39 AM

Don't get the LION started on eyesight.

Him had cateract surgery x2, and thought this is great I can see again. (NOT).

My primary specticles are no-lines. I tie them on a string so that I can drop them off to read.

Then I got another pair for working the computer, what with four monitors about 30" away etc.

Then I got some 1x readers for closeup work , and of course the optivisor for working on the railroad.

Oh well, I can manage.

ROAR

The Route of the Broadway Lion The Largest Subway Layout in North Dakota.

Here there be cats.                                LIONS with CAMERAS

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Posted by steamage on Friday, June 12, 2015 11:32 AM

I'm pushing 70 and am glad most of my layout, passenger and freight cars are finished.  This was a goal to for me so when I'm "really" old and eyesite failing, everything look better on the layout.  But so far I'm doing well and still model building. 

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Posted by BRAKIE on Friday, June 12, 2015 11:08 AM

I'm 67 and still do pretty good even though I have limited use of my right hand due to a stroke back in '05 and some days my shaky shake hands limits what I can to so,I spend more time switching cars on my ISL.

Larry

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Posted by crhostler61 on Friday, June 12, 2015 11:08 AM

I am not quite a senior...but getting there. I did a run of cancer a few years ago and did 8 weeks of rad treatments...seriously affecting the right leg. Moderate levels of arthritis in the lower half of the body especially in the lower back. Definitely makes working on the model railroad a challenge at times. Things like that can make aging come quicker, at least seemingly so. Your not alone...many of us here are with you and completely understand.

Mark H

 

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Posted by rrebell on Friday, June 12, 2015 11:06 AM

JAMES MOON

At 72, almost 73, I am actually kind of amazed at what I can still do.  I trenched a 50 ft drainage ditch by hand last week to save about a $1,000 the contractor was going to charge.  Not as fast as I used to be but can still work at a steady pace.  I am past working on sloped roofs and tall ladders, however.

I do have degenerative disks in the top five vertibrae that three months of physical therapy taught me to live without pain.  Getting under the bench is still doable but hurts a little.  I bought a moveable bench light that clamps onto the side of the layout.  Helps a lot with the vision thing as I am hand laying all my track. Haven't bought the Optivision device yet but plan on getting one this fall when I plan to get back into more car and kit building.  Just finishing up on the third hand fabricated turnout.  Should have it done this weekend.

Life is good!

Jim

 

I'm like you, I adjust. Accually I am doing pretty good too, in fact better than when in my late 40's, worked warehouse for Kublacon and kept up with the 20 year olds (I'm 62), in fact we did it in record time. Sure I have pains I do not remember from before (I think we have them but ignor them when younger) and eyesite is always an issue with aging, hated the visor type but learned to switch between dollar store reading glasses with different magnifications and sold all my visor types, so you adjust.  Now to address the origial posters problems, you can use soft foam on the layout to brace yourself on many occasions and I have many lights for my layout but when I can't see an area because I need more light, I use a portable light source, even used a couple of LED flashlights a few times to inlluminate the proublem.

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Posted by traintravler on Friday, June 12, 2015 10:50 AM

Your not alone. I have my things going on to. Imy eyes are not what they use to be. Also the back make things harder to do. But like a couple others have said, I wake up, so its 

Will be a pretty good day. I just know what my limits are and do my best to stay with in them.

Sean, the unknown train travler,

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Posted by Weighmaster on Friday, June 12, 2015 10:42 AM

I now have the basement back, after my wife passed away.  Once some usable space is cleared, there will be about 15x22 available for a layout, that I hopefully will see to almost completion before I join her (just turned 70). The problem is, my biceps have mostly become unceps (moved to the underside of the arms), and my 6-pack turned into a 12-pack, then a case, and now, finally a keg.  I think I still have my mind, at least most/some of it.  So, we'll see what develops.

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Posted by BroadwayLion on Friday, June 12, 2015 10:35 AM

LION is 67 and that is getting old for a LION, I suppose. I just saw a video presentation on aging and senility. The brain has three layers one on top of the other, and while there are of course scientifc names for these parts, the video called them the "Reptilian Brain", The "Mamalian Brain" and the "Cognative Brain."

The Reptilian Brain reacts to things. Sensory inputs that provoke fight or fligh and other reflexive actions. The Mamalian Brain can be imprinted with learning. This was demonstrated by a cat in my mother's back yard. On day one it saw a chipmonk, and ran at it, perhaps thinking of a nice dinner for itself, But the chipmonk ran to a hole in the ground and got away. This happened again on the second day, and that is all it took for the cat to learn that the chipmonk was going to run to the hole. (The chipmonk had nothing to learn from the experience because it got away, right). On the third day the cat came, but did not run toward the chipmonk, but rather ran to the hole and caught the rodent before it got there. The cat learned.

But the cat did not learn enough to recite Shakespear. That requires the human mind.

So for us humans a input may come in to the middle brain, and if it cannot do the project without thinking, it kicks the issue up to the congnative brain for resolution. Problem is that our abilities dissapper in the inverse order in which they were learned. So if the cognitive brain cannot handle the issue, and in my experience it frequentyl cannot, it issue drops down to the reptilian brain for resolution. That results in a loud feral ROAR (usually laced with a few proscribed explitives) that tends to disturb the placid brothers within earshot.

Well, anyway, I have adapted my railroad to my capibilites and not to someone else's count of rivets.

In any event, I have solved the problem of going under the table. This layout was started 10 years ago, and I resolved that there would be no wires under the table. (sort of---there are always wires under there.) All of the wiring would hence forth be on the fascia, and later covered over with a finished fascia.

The finished fascia is held in place by powerful magnets glued to wooden stand-offs. It works real well. If in need accest to the wire I just lift off the fascia ant there is the wire. LIONS do use a lot of wire, eh? Well the layout is 14 miles long with 43 platform edges that require train stops, plus the working block signal system, and the whole thing is fully automated with over 300 relays.

And did I tell you, there is no wiring under the table, other than drops that are pulled out to the edge for connection on the fascia.

 

ROAR

The Route of the Broadway Lion The Largest Subway Layout in North Dakota.

Here there be cats.                                LIONS with CAMERAS

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Posted by JAMES MOON on Friday, June 12, 2015 10:13 AM

At 72, almost 73, I am actually kind of amazed at what I can still do.  I trenched a 50 ft drainage ditch by hand last week to save about a $1,000 the contractor was going to charge.  Not as fast as I used to be but can still work at a steady pace.  I am past working on sloped roofs and tall ladders, however.

I do have degenerative disks in the top five vertibrae that three months of physical therapy taught me to live without pain.  Getting under the bench is still doable but hurts a little.  I bought a moveable bench light that clamps onto the side of the layout.  Helps a lot with the vision thing as I am hand laying all my track. Haven't bought the Optivision device yet but plan on getting one this fall when I plan to get back into more car and kit building.  Just finishing up on the third hand fabricated turnout.  Should have it done this weekend.

Life is good!

Jim

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Posted by DAVID FORTNEY on Friday, June 12, 2015 9:52 AM

Although I am only 69 and have a few problems life is good. Beings I'm starting a new layout and although I would love to hand lay my track my hands and eyes will not allow me to do it. So I decided to use HO unitrack from Kato, the best out there. 

Yes not the most realistic track but with some good scenery it will look pretty good. So for me the whole point is to have trains running and having fun now that I am retired. 

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Posted by IRONROOSTER on Friday, June 12, 2015 9:18 AM

Well I'm not quite as bad off as some of you - at least not yet.  But I drop things and the arthritis in my hands makes it hard to do many tasks that used to be routine.  I've started wearing my optivisor for some layout tasks.  And I can't stand for as long as I used to.

But having out lived my father, both grandfathers, and one brother every day is a gift. 

Enjoy

Paul

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Posted by riogrande5761 on Friday, June 12, 2015 9:12 AM

Considering for many things senior status starts at 55, I think half the people on this forum qualifies - I am over 55 (barely).  So half the crowd in the hobby are likely seniors!

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Posted by jrbernier on Friday, June 12, 2015 9:03 AM

  Things Change(and so does our bodies).  I am 65; have had both knees replaced(too much running on hard surfaces), and the 'aches & pains' are there.  I have been replacing the ground throws in the staging at the club(on the 36" lower level).  Getting up and down to mount the Bullfrog machines takes it's toll.  About 4-5 mounted and I am ready to quit for the day.  My hands seem to do OK with modeling, but I do seem to 'drop' things more often.  And lots of light for us in the 'Optivisor Generation'!

Jim

Modeling BNSF  and Milwaukee Road in SW Wisconsin

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Posted by Bis on Friday, June 12, 2015 8:40 AM

I'm with you guys. Thank god for grand kids, they seem to fit under the layout better than I do.:-) 

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Posted by RR_Mel on Friday, June 12, 2015 8:34 AM

No, your not alone!  I retired 7½ years ago at 70, I’ve been on slides in the park that I’ve gone down hill slower on.  My eye sight is holding in there but I think I’m the clumsiest person on Earth.  My fingers refuse to hold on to anything very long, I spend half my day picking up stuff.
 
Roger is correct, “But I still wake up each morning so life is good.”  Between Arthritis and Diabetes I’m still hanging in there in 45 minute spurts with a 30 minute rest between spurts.
 
Hang in there, if you don’t read your Obit in the morning paper your doing good.  Working on your trains at your workbench isn’t so bad . . . . if you can keep from dropping everything.  With 78 year old eyes and 4x reading glasses I’m doing pretty good, the mag lights on each corner of my workbench help a lot.  Yesterday I assembled an HO Jordan 1925 Ford Roadster-Pickup . . . . took almost 3 hours fumbling with those itty bitty parts . . . . all thumbs, no fingers.
 
You definitely have one thing better than me, my layout is only about ¾ finished, butI’m determined to finish it!
 
   
 
 
Mel
 
 
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Posted by JoeinPA on Friday, June 12, 2015 8:29 AM

Terry

I know what you're saying. After a tussle with prostate cancer things were going well until I developed Meniere's disease and now I have bouts of severe vertigo that occur at unexpected times (like when I'm under the layout or in the middle of a painting project). Aging is not for the faint of heart.

Joe

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Posted by skagitrailbird on Friday, June 12, 2015 7:54 AM

You are definately not alone. After four joint replacements my time under the layout is all behind me. But I still wake up each morning so life is good. 

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Model Railroading for Seniors
Posted by C&O Fan on Friday, June 12, 2015 7:12 AM

It's not for weaklings Huh?

I get so frustrated when I can't fix something on the layout because
 I have trouble seeing it and my hands aren't steady enough to grasp the object or tools

About the only place i can still work is the work bench where the light is good
and I have the Magnifying glass and I can steady my hands on the table

The good news is The layout is completed only minor up grades and maintenance items

but forget about getting under the layout and working overhead while laying on my back

after 36 radiation treatments ruined my sense of balance and a stroke didn't help either there's a better chance of me winning theWWE Elimination Chamber Match

Is it just me or do others have the same problems ?

TerryinTexas

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http://conewriversubdivision.yolasite.com/

 

 

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