OK Bambino, you're outta here!!!!! Red Sox 86 curse in style --- Now what?

[cwclark]

so the Astros didn't pull it off last night...they've been a loser team for 43 years now...why change now with something like the world series at stake?....

[EL PARRo]

All I can say is:

Go Cards!

As a die-hard Giants fan, I liked watching the Cardinals eliminate the Dodgers (the Giants' hated rival) in the NLDS, so that's why I'm rooting for the Cardinals in the World Series. That, and because I like the NL more than the AL. But that's a discussion for another forum somewhere else.

[n2mopac]

This is going to be a tough World Series for me. I would love to see the Sox break the "curse," but being from central MO I cannot root against my hometown Royals or my wife's hometown Cardinals. To all those Boston fans out there, I feel your pain and I sympathize, but . . . GO CARDS!!!

Ron

[Anonymous]

Dead Man Pitching

NEW YORK (AP) — Somewhere on a slab in Boston is a citizen of Red Sox Nation who actually gave his body to the cause.

With the team's future increasingly dependent on Curt Schilling's (search) right leg, doctors decided to try an apparently unprecedented procedure to keep a tendon from slipping around in his ankle. But first, they wanted to test it out.

So they used a cadaver. No way to know if it was a Red Sox (search) fan.

"We were going to try to do everything we could to try to stabilize the tendon," Red Sox general manager Theo Epstein said Wednesday night before Game 7 of the AL championship series. "We were only going to do it as a last-ditch effort."

The Red Sox wound up winning the playoffs Wednesday night against their rivals, the New York Yankees (search), and will head to the World Series for the first time since 1986. The Boston team hasn't won the baseball championship since 1918.

Schilling hurt the ankle near the end of the regular season and tried to pitch with the injury for Game 1 of the playoff series against the Yankees. Unable to push off the mound with full force, he allowed six runs in three innings — his worst postseason performance since 1993.

The Red Sox lost the game 10-7 and went on to fall behind 3-0 in the best-of-seven series. They won the next two to stay alive in the series, but they used every available pitcher in the process and found themselves needing Schilling again.

The Red Sox training staff thought of various ways to keep the tendon in place. Special high-top shoes didn't work, and they hit upon the idea of sewing skin in Schilling's leg to the tissue underneath, creating a wall that would keep the tendon in place.

"It seems extreme. We couldn't find a case of it ever being done before," Epstein said. "It was the best way to allow him to have his normal mechanics."

Schilling had three stitches put in at about 2 p.m. on Monday, about 90 minutes before he tested his ankle on the bullpen mound in Fenway Park (search).

"If it didn't work, he's in the same situation he was before," manager Terry Francona said. "We went out to the bullpen, he did pretty well without it. ... Schill kind of bought off on it, and they did it a day early to see if he could get used to it and let him get comfortable with it. And it certainly seemed to do the trick."

Although there was some fluid and blood leaking through Schilling's sock on Tuesday night, Epstein could see after the first pitch that Schilling was throwing like normal.

The sutures were taken out after the game to avoid infection; if Schilling pitches again, they would be put back in. Epstein said there was no problem repeating the procedure a couple of more times.

"We only have one more series," he said. "People think it's reasonable to do it a couple more times."



I found this news story. Explains the blood on Schillings sock. Ewwwwww, talk about taking one for the team. [swg]

[BRJN]

QUOTE: Originally posted by egmurphy

A true Red Sox fan knows that disaster always lurks just around the corner. He knows that no lead is safe.

< Cubs fan lurking in background sighs heavily > [B)]

[Big_Boy_4005]

QUOTE: Originally posted by cwclark

so the Astros didn't pull it off last night...they've been a loser team for 43 years now...why change now with something like the world series at stake?....

Chuck, there's a difference between a "has been" and a "never was". I think the Astro's day will come sooner rather than later. Think of it this way, the Red Sox futility is double the length of the Astro's existance. Beside, the Angels proved that it could be done a couple years ago.

The Red Sox dilema: as much as they want to win it all, winning destroys their charm.
Hmmmmmmmm........ tough choice. Maybe they should just win this one, then they can start a new streak.[swg]

By the way, that thing with Schilling gives new meaning to the term Red Sox. Ewwww[xx(]

[Big_Boy_4005]

Well Sox fans, that's one, but I guess they're good at that part. It's winning four games that they can't seem to do.[swg]

[egmurphy]

That's the insidious nature of "The Curse". It's not that they're not competitive, they should win the series, and probably should have won back in '46, '67, and '86. Each time they took it to Game 7. Each time they had their fan's hopes up. Each time they just missed................

"Wait 'til this year!"


"Reverse the Curse"


Regards

Ed

[Big_Boy_4005]

So what you are saying Ed is, the curse doesn't really kick in until after the Sox win their third game of the series. That's when all bets and eyes turn to the Bambino. Like I said, one down.[swg]

[Big_Boy_4005]

That's two. I swear it was snowing!!! I wouldn't want to be sitting outside tonight. maybe if they break the curse they will get a new stadium.[swg]

[Big_Boy_4005]

That's three!!! And 7 in a row, and they are showing no signs of slowing down. A win tomorrow night, and Schilling can go have his surgery. There's only one problem if they win. WHAT'S NEXT?[swg]

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Big_Boy_4005

That's three!!! And 7 in a row, and they are showing no signs of slowing down. A win tomorrow night, and Schilling can go have his surgery. There's only one problem if they win. WHAT'S NEXT?[swg]

What's next??? An Arctic front crossing the River Styx into Hades, a politician telling the truth, or all registers open @ the Wal-Mart. Who would have thunk it!!! The curse may just be over.

However, no team had overcome a 3-0 deficit to win a playoff series in baseball until this years Red Sox. Will the Cardinals become the 2nd team to do so? I don't think so, but after all, they are the Red Sox.


GO SOX!!!!!!

I still don't have any Stars and baseball season is just about over--and no talks scheduled--the lockout has more days than I have posts!!!

[Anonymous]

Go Sox, get it over with in 4!!!!![:D]
I'm getting quite a crick in my neck, as the TV is at right angles to the workbench!!![;)]

[egmurphy]

I don't know, Elliot. Changing the thread name to something like that could be tempting fate. "The Curse" is a powerful thing, and it needs to be exorcised carefully.

I'm not chalking this Series up in the 'won' column yet. We've been very close before. The Red Sox are capable of unbelievable blunders. There's no lead they're not capable of blowing.

I was, again, strangely calm during last night's game. At least until Walker hit that one in the stands in the bottom of the ninth and Pujols hits the following pitch to deep left center. Just a few heart palpitations at that point!

Manny Ramirez had a big night. He finally got his World Series homer in the top of the first, and made a great run saving throw to home plate in the bottom of the first.

It was the Pedro of old on the mound. I think that Schilling's heroics inspired him. Francona made one of the understatements of the year in the post game interview when he said (of Martinez) "He has a history of being pretty good."

I'd like to think that Suppan's base running error in the third inning will go on to be the lasting memory of this Series, like Pesky's holding the ball in the Red Sox loss to the Cardinals in the 7th game of the 1946 Series.

If they blow this series after taking a 3-0 lead, it will hurt more than any other. Maybe that's what The Bambino is waiting for.


"Wait 'til this year!"

"Reverse the Curse"



Regards

Ed

[Big_Boy_4005]

Well Ed, changing the title can't be any worse than Pedro saying, "I don't believe in curses. Wake up the dumb Bambino, and have me face him. Maybe I'll drill him in the ..."

If I don't taunt the Bambino here, he may oversleep, and the Sox will quietly win, and no longer be any fun. I'm almost afraid for Boston if they do win. The City may crumble to the ground.[swg]

[egmurphy]

Nah, I can picture an almost Zen-like peacefulness. Oneness with the ball, the green grass, the Green Monster........... A feeling that order has been restored.......

Well, that's here in this household, anyway. Up in Boston it'll probably be another matter. But I'm too old to enjoy that kind of stuff anymore.

Anyway, it's all still conjuncture. There's unfinished business to be taken care of, and a Curse to ovecome. Let's not get ahead of ourselves and get overconfident. Look what hubris did for the Yankees, and they didn't even have a curse working against them!

Still time to get a post or two in before getting a good seat in my recliner in front of the boob tube.


"Wait 'til this year"

"Reverse the Curse"


Regards

Ed

[Big_Boy_4005]

The stars seem to be in the proper alignment, as a lunar eclipse is taking place during the game. Lowe is pitching great, and the Sox are up 3-0 in the 4th. There have only been 3 sweeps in World Series history. Top of the 5th, here we go, let's make it 4!!!![swg]

[dave9999]

Well Elliot, I for one am not a big baseball fan, but I am glad to see the Sox finally getting their due....
Although growing up I was a Braves fan and went to quiet a few games. Somehow I kind of lost interest
in baseball after I finished playing (little league)....Now watching football keeps me pretty busy in the fall.
Anyway, Go Red Sox (it's about time).[^] Dave


BTW ...... Ding Dong the Zooker's GONE.

[FThunder11]

GO BOSTON RED SOX

[Big_Boy_4005]

Red Sox 3, Destiny 0

It's over!!! Way to go SOX!!!!

[rexhea]

CONGRATS, RED SOX FANS!

[tstage]

Congratulations, BoSox fans!!! You've edured a long time!!!

After being down 0-3, it was SO SWEET to see the Yankees go down in 4 straight. YES!!! I'll be honest and say that I was a bit disappointed with the WS. I thought there'd be more of a battle between the Sox and the Cardinals. It was so anti-climactic compared to the ALCS. I wouild have liked to have at least seen it go 6 and have it won at Fenway. In my opinion, Curt Schilling deserved the MVP, not Manny.

2004 goes to the Red Sox. 2005? GO TRIBE!!!!!!!

Tom

[Anonymous]

The curse is over!!! NY Yankees will hold a press conference tomorrow. The ghost of Babe Ruth will be fired!!! As will that of Billy Martin!!!

What a dominating performance the Red Sox had in the World Series!!!

Congratulations Red Sox, 2004 World Series Champions!!!

[egmurphy]

In case anyone has any doubts about it, I'm a very happy camper this morning. I couldn't believe they actually did it last night. I'm still waiting for someone to unearth some arcane rule that would require a replay or disqualify them or something.

It's been a long time coming.

We'll see how successful the management is about keeping the main players from jumping ship during the off season. I suspect their payroll is going to need to increase.


Could it be Chicago's turn next?



Regards

Ed

[MAbruce]

A Boston headline that sums it all up:

Pigs can fly, hell is frozen, the slipper finally fits,
and Impossible Dreams really can come true.
The Red Sox have won the World Series!!

[Big_Boy_4005]

Ed, I couldn't believe that last night. Nobody ever pointed out that Damon's lead off home run was actually the game winner.

Just before the game we watched the Curse Of The Bambino, and during the game there was a shot of Dan Shaughnessy as he was writing. He's giving an interview on Good Morning America as I type this. He was the one that prompted the original title of this topic. He seemed somewhat disappointed, as if the party was over.

The DVD is available at Amazon.com for $14.95. [swg]

[Nieuweboer]

Congratulations all you Red Sox fans over there. Heard it on the early morning news here on Dutch radio.

[vsmith]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Big_Boy_4005

Ed, I couldn't believe that last night. Nobody ever pointed out that Damon's lead off home run was actually the game winner.

Just before the game we watched the Curse Of The Bambino, and during the game there was a shot of Dan Shaughnessy as he was writing. He's giving an interview on Good Morning America as I type this. He was the one that prompted the original title of this topic. .....


.....He seemed somewhat disappointed, as if the party was over.

He seemed dissappointed because his book is now redundant....

Whats next?

To see how long it takes Boston to stop Burning and to clean up to bodies!!!!

Theres gonna be a collective Hangover so large in Beantown this morning it will make last night luner eclipse look TAME!

[:0][:D][;)][8D][:p][:)][:o)]

[darth9x9]

Thank goodness it was over in only four games. Now I can get back to modeling.

[Anonymous]

Red sox? red soxs?
Have loads of socks but don't have any red ones tho.
Do you suppose to wear then when you moddeling US railroads???
shoul get some then tho.
or is it a new merger to compete with BNSF and UP!?
missed that one then thought.
[:D][:D][:D][:D][:D]