at 209 plus tax are they worth it? I think it is portable too I don't know if it vents out anywhere.rambo1..
It would be helpful if you'd post a link to what you are considering. Otherwise it is hard to have an opinion.
I picked up a used stove range hood vent for $12 and built a plywood 3 sided box under it. Works nice but you need to vent it outside if spraying enamel/lacquer paints. Just a thought.
-Bob
Life is what happens while you are making other plans!
I built my own for under 100$, it's 20" deep 40" long and around 20" tall. All ingredients bought @ home depot. I used precut 24"x48"x1/4" white dry erase panels, two bath exhaust fans 2 pleated furnace filters, assorted pvc fittings (3") 3" pvc pipe, 2- 18" flourescent light fixtures, and 2 15a swithches, one for lights, one for fans. I reasearched on youtube. It vents through a 3" hole i drilled through my garage wall.
for water base paint do you need to vent it outside or are filters enought?rambo1
wooden box with a furnace filter and a portable fan to draw the air through the filter. Would that be good enought?rambo1..
nice job!
there is still a fan and you have it vented to a window ? for safety? rambo1 nice job though !
I built a fair sized spraybooth for about $50. A sheet of wood sheathing, an old furnace blower, dryer duct and fittings, and assorted hardware. It's 28"x22"x20". Sits on an old home made table. I vent through the dryer duct to the outside.
Mark H
Modeling in HO...Reading and Conrail together in an alternate history.
As many others have, I built my own out of plywood and hardboard and I use an insertable pleated air filter (14x20) or buy that synthetic filter sheet material at Walmart and cut my own filters. I put a miniature florescent lamp under the front top edge (and painted the interior of the box pure white to increase lighting), installed a metal ball bearing lazy susan with a plywood surface and use a 3-speed standard box fan for pulling the airbrush acrylic over spray into the filter. I think I spent perhaps $ 40.00 total on it and use it almost daily, for both model railroad painting and other stuff (repainting/refreshing the wife's clay planting pots most recently). I would solicit plans and photos from other forum participants and build my own before spending money with Paasche or Badger for their retail ones.
All that money you save could be spent on...TRAIN STUFF!!!!!!!
Send one of us a message and I know you will get plenty of inspiration!
Cedarwoodron
So, the answer to one qestion is that if you are NOT using solvent based paints, it is NOT necessary to exhaust to the outdoors.
I was planning to build my own, similar to what other people have posted here. Howvever, last Christmas, my wife gave me one of these, which is more than adequate for my needs, and probably cheaper than I could build one myself. It folds up to the size of a small, thick attache case, too.
Connecticut Valley Railroad A Branch of the New York, New Haven, and Hartford
"If you think you can do a thing or think you can't do a thing, you're right." -- Henry Ford
Hmm, nice price on that, I may have to get one of those.
--Randy
Modeling the Reading Railroad in the 1950's
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Yeah, smart. Point the exhaust at your nose. That ought to be healthy!
LION is cheap. Him used a gardboard box to catch the overspray. That is enough (for all the painting that a LION does.)
ROAR
The Route of the Broadway Lion The Largest Subway Layout in North Dakota.
Here there be cats. LIONS with CAMERAS
I have seen similar portable spray booths online when I decided to build my own. Some issues: the walls of this are thin plastic- with extensive use/ movement/ repositioning, they will break or crack down the road. The top of the front hood seems retarded too far back to catch all overspray, even with the ventilation on. When I spray in my home-made booth, the model part is completely inside on my turntable, and the top overhang helps to localize any overspray. That ventilator tube is probably lightweight plastic- like the cheap dryer vents they sell at home stores. I used one on my dryer and replaced it with a sturdier metal reinforced one soon after. Those filters run at least $10.00 a piece- you will be replacing the filter soon, with regular use- and the surface area is rather narrow (vertically)- it's cheaper to buy filter material sheets at a home store and cut your own to fit or buy a 3-pack of the size you built your booth to fit and replace regularly. (Hint- you can invert (rotate top to bottom) the filter after periodic use and get a bit more life from it before replacing) Where is the light source? By having a nearby direct (rather than ambient) light source above the model part, it is illuminated better and you eliminate any shadow areas and it helps to ensure an even paint or primering job.
For the price ($65.00), it IS useful- but tell us what condition it's in in two years. My home-made one is 5 years old and, other than inexpensive filter replacements as needed, in virtually new condition the same as the day I completed it.
I built mine out of stuff I happened to have lying around. I think the only piece I had to buy was the light fixture. I don't have it vented outside but adding a duct wouldn't be very difficult should I ever get into lacquer based paints. I do use it in a well ventilated garage. By the way, the fancy multi-section side walls don't serve any purpose. That happened because I only had small pieces of plwood in the scrap bin.
The second gauge on the housing is handy. It came out of an inexpensive air brush kit that my brother gave me so I'm not sure how accurate it is, but being able to adjust the pressure without having to walk over to the compressor is nice.
I think Cedarwoodron's concerns about the $65.00 booth are valid, especially the one about proper lighting. If the fan and duct system were half decent they could be used as a starting point for a proper booth but how do you know how good they are until you have spent your money?
Apologies to those of you who just saw my booth photos on another thread, but I thought reposting them here might add to the discussion.
Dave
I'm just a dude with a bad back having a lot of fun with model trains, and finally building a layout!
I am like the LION:
Cheap and easy..uh maybe I should have rephrased that...
I used a giant cardboard box{it housed my "poratble" table saw from the store}, an old bathroom fan I had lying around, and an cheap furnace filter.
WOrks great.
No need to spend a fortune! AS someone said, no need to spend money that could be spent on trains!
-G .
Just my thoughts, ideas, opinions and experiences. Others may vary.
HO and N Scale.
After long and careful thought, they have convinced me. I have come to the conclusion that they are right. The aliens did it.
farrellaa I picked up a used stove range hood vent for $12 and built a plywood 3 sided box under it. Works nice but you need to vent it outside if spraying enamel/lacquer paints. Just a thought. -Bob
This is what I did and it works great. It was also much much cheaper.
Elmer.
The above is my opinion, from an active and experienced Model Railroader in N scale and HO since 1961.
(Modeling Freelance, Eastern US, HO scale, in 1962, with NCE DCC for locomotive control and a stand alone LocoNet for block detection and signals.) http://waynes-trains.com/ at home, and N scale at the Club.
CTValleyRRSo, the answer to one qestion is that if you are NOT using solvent based paints, it is NOT necessary to exhaust to the outdoors.
That is correct,
However, you're still spraying pigment, etc ground into a fine form. So the hood and some sort of filter are really necessary indoors, even if aromatic solvents aren't involved. That way this "dead paint" that doesn't go on the model is captured, instead of simply released to slowly coat everything in the room -- and your lungs. Even though it's not immediately dangerous like fumes can be from the solvent-based paints, it's still a longer term hazard.
One way it may be a short term hazard, though, is if your wife discovers what's going on. Fortunately, mine is very understanding and didn't fliinch when she saw the green dust from me making bumpy chenille trees with spray cans inside the garage. Yeah, it'll clean up off the floor later when it warms up -- and wash off the green truck -- but seeing that in the grage, or even worse the house, could ruin marriages less stable than ours
Mike Lehman
Urbana, IL
Some interesting reading on spray booth construction here: http://www.modelersite.com/Abr2003/english/Spray-booth-design_Eng.htm
The write up on airflow requirements is a major factor in my decision to buy a spray booth as purchasing a fan with sufficient CFM would have been half or more of the cost of an inexpensive commercial spray booth.
George v.
>Apologies to those of you who just saw my booth photos on another thread.
Yeah Dave, you were very helpful a few weeks ago on my project. Tip: Line the inside walls with aluminum foil and you'll greatly enhance the lighting inside. Mine's the Paasche galvanized steel booth so I keep the foil in place with a pack of cheap "Altoid" size magnets from Lowe's. Use double sided tape or duct tape and you'll do as well, and it keeps the booth lookin' sharp. I have a small 5 1/2" dia clamp-on work light attached to the sidewall with a 40 watt bulb. Six bucks at the same place and it floods the place with light.